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Are there any effortposts here about the many Carcassonne expansions? I’ve been playing the base game for ages and only recently became aware there were expansions at all.
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Not an expansion, but I think Hunters and Gatherers is my favourite version.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:31
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Morpheus posted:Worst redesign ever. Utter trash. 0/10. DEAL WITH IT 
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Sep 11, 2018 19:33
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Too Shy Guy posted:Are there any effortposts here about the many Carcassonne expansions? I’ve been playing the base game for ages and only recently became aware there were expansions at all. There's a reasonable degree of consensus that most expansions are poo poo, but some are good, and you want Traders & Builders, and Inns & Cathedrals specifically.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:35
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Merauder posted:DEAL WITH IT Just throw the words around the box like alphabet cereal. Let people figure out its name from that. "I'm pretty sure it's called MU PLACE" "gently caress that it's certainly PLEUC UM, definitely latin." And then there's like, another C but it's sorta ghosty so is that included in the name or a printing error who knows
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Sep 11, 2018 19:40
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Icago/Express. iChicago/Express, the Apple re-design with one single type of action and one company.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:44
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Had a game night last night, got to play Castles of Mad King Ludwig, and Can't Stop, which I've decided I really like with two or even three, but 4 is too crowded. A friend brought Unstable Unicorns, which is like Exploding Kittens or Bears vs Babies but slightly better. Put another way, it's like Guillotine but way worse. We utterly failed to apprehend Mr. X in Scotland Yard, and had a couple rounds of Sticheln, which I'm convinced is the best trick-taking game. While I was playing these, the table in the other room had a game of Concordia going on. I understand that two of the players were new to the game, but even so, HOW THE gently caress DO YOU MAKE CONCORDIA TAKE THREE HOURS?
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Sep 11, 2018 19:47
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El Fideo posted:Had a game night last night, got to play Castles of Mad King Ludwig, and Can't Stop, which I've decided I really like with two or even three, but 4 is too crowded. A friend brought Unstable Unicorns, which is like Exploding Kittens or Bears vs Babies but slightly better. Put another way, it's like Guillotine but way worse. We utterly failed to apprehend Mr. X in Scotland Yard, and had a couple rounds of Sticheln, which I'm convinced is the best trick-taking game. If Concordia takes three hours, then people playing it are bad because you should aggressively be going for those cards or building poo poo. Everyone must've just been trading or something. One of the problems with player-driven end-states, I suppose. Unstable Unicorns, ugh. A friend of mine got that for some gift or something, and I worry about the day that he brings it to a get-together.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:51
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El Fideo posted:HOW THE gently caress DO YOU MAKE CONCORDIA TAKE THREE HOURS? Someone was telling me me how their group usually gets through Century: Golem in around an hour and a half, now that they had the strategy down and were valuing the cards correctly. I played with them, and won uncontested in ~20 minutes, because instead of durdling around building up a 15 card hand I bought stuff. I was doing the base "Big Money" strategy, while they were doing "4 Villages, 1 terminal" nonsense. It made sense to them, because I think in their games the guy getting 15 cards was beating the guys with 12 cards - but the right answer is more like 5 cards. When you get these extreme cases, it's usually not just AP; people get stuck in these weird metagame loops where they're so busy "doing things" they forget what they're trying to do.
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Sep 11, 2018 20:19
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Merauder posted:Ethnos is solid, you crazy. That actually is a bad redesign. The more durable pyramid is fine - I lost one of the bands on mine the second play, although none since - but if that's the actual board then I don't know how you could add Supercup to it without making a new board. And of course, all this jacks up the price. I would be interested to try the Rogue camels module, so I hope they release that separately for 1st edition.
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Sep 11, 2018 20:33
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I'm so irrationally angry about Camel Up
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Sep 11, 2018 20:34
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jmzero posted:Someone was telling me me how their group usually gets through Century: Golem in around an hour and a half, now that they had the strategy down and were valuing the cards correctly. I played with them, and won uncontested in ~20 minutes, because instead of durdling around building up a 15 card hand I bought stuff. I was doing the base "Big Money" strategy, while they were doing "4 Villages, 1 terminal" nonsense. It made sense to them, because I think in their games the guy getting 15 cards was beating the guys with 12 cards - but the right answer is more like 5 cards. This is very insightful! This can go the other way too, where a game that can have a lot of depth gets played like a filler game. For instance, I've been in groups that play Modern Art very quickly.
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Sep 11, 2018 20:37
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dropkickpikachu posted:I'm so irrationally angry about Camel Up
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Sep 12, 2018 02:15
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Merauder posted:Ethnos is solid, you crazy. VINDICATION! TAKE THAT, MOM!
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Sep 12, 2018 03:10
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In those new Camel Up pics, the camels look plastic. I can see seams on the edges. I thought they were wood in the original version? I only played it once, so I'm not sure.
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Sep 12, 2018 03:40
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Ravendas posted:In those new Camel Up pics, the camels look plastic. I can see seams on the edges. I thought they were wood in the original version? I only played it once, so I'm not sure. They are indeed wood and the new version seems to lack the slightly stereotypical caricatures so of course I cannot play the new version
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Sep 12, 2018 05:07
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Jedit posted:That actually is a bad redesign. The more durable pyramid is fine - I lost one of the bands on mine the second play, although none since - but if that's the actual board then I don't know how you could add Supercup to it without making a new board. And of course, all this jacks up the price. The MSRP actually looks unchanged from $39.99.
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Sep 12, 2018 05:32
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I thought it was Camel Cup?
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Sep 12, 2018 05:37
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Rutibex posted:I thought it was Camel Cup?
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Sep 12, 2018 07:45
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Mayveena posted:I have Import/Export but the rules are so obtuse to me I haven't gotten it to the table. It's also a Glory to Rome fork. It's a bit tricky to work out, I grant you. But in the end, I found it easier to "get" than Mottanai, perhaps because the theme makes some sense and the rules hang on that theme in a logical way. (An undersold aspect of themes is how they can pull a set of rules together.) While I was playing it, several people happened by who commented something like "eh, I prefer Mottanai which does all of this in half the time". To which I replied, "yes, but I can understand Import/Export".
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Sep 12, 2018 10:03
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deadwing posted:The MSRP actually looks unchanged from $39.99. Excellent, that means we can rant about how we were gouged for the original! E: just took a look at the preview. Apparently Camel Up 2 is more expensive (by €5) and also drops the maximum player count to six, reducing its value as a social party game. It does, however, finally remove any ambiguity in the name by altering the logo. Jedit fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Sep 12, 2018 |
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Sep 12, 2018 10:10
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Obviously this would vary from store to store, but is there any kind of unspoken rule with friendly local game stores that you shouldn't show up if all you're going to do is bring in a board game and play it there with some friends? Like, is that considered an okay thing to do or is it like the board game equivalent of people that go into a store and ask for a sample of everything and then leave or what, there's a really nice kinda-local game shop and another definitely-local-but-also-feels-kinda-skeezy game shop we could head to and both have a decent amount of space but it feels like if all we're doing is showing up with no intent to purchase anything, that maybe we shouldn't be there at all. I dunno how supportive game shops are of just letting people come in and game.
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Sep 12, 2018 10:45
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FirstAidKite posted:Obviously this would vary from store to store, but is there any kind of unspoken rule with friendly local game stores that you shouldn't show up if all you're going to do is bring in a board game and play it there with some friends? Like, is that considered an okay thing to do or is it like the board game equivalent of people that go into a store and ask for a sample of everything and then leave or what, there's a really nice kinda-local game shop and another definitely-local-but-also-feels-kinda-skeezy game shop we could head to and both have a decent amount of space but it feels like if all we're doing is showing up with no intent to purchase anything, that maybe we shouldn't be there at all. I dunno how supportive game shops are of just letting people come in and game. I don't know how things are where you live, but in Scotland nearly all shops that have tables will allow you to bring your own games if you pay a table fee.
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Sep 12, 2018 10:50
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FirstAidKite posted:Obviously this would vary from store to store, but is there any kind of unspoken rule with friendly local game stores that you shouldn't show up if all you're going to do is bring in a board game and play it there with some friends? Like, is that considered an okay thing to do or is it like the board game equivalent of people that go into a store and ask for a sample of everything and then leave or what, there's a really nice kinda-local game shop and another definitely-local-but-also-feels-kinda-skeezy game shop we could head to and both have a decent amount of space but it feels like if all we're doing is showing up with no intent to purchase anything, that maybe we shouldn't be there at all. I dunno how supportive game shops are of just letting people come in and game. Stores in Australia are happy for you to BYO games, and don't generally have table fees. We try to pay it back by buying snacks and drinks there, as well as make the odd purchase (though my local's range is kinda blah).
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Sep 12, 2018 11:06
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Too Shy Guy posted:Are there any effortposts here about the many Carcassonne expansions? I’ve been playing the base game for ages and only recently became aware there were expansions at all. Inns & Cathedrals is pretty much a must include. Traders & Builders is pretty good. Avoid the Catapult, its gimmick is terrible. Add a maximum of one alternate map start. The River is pretty good (and iirc comes with the base game now anyway). The Count spreads things out a lot but the actual rules it comes with are a little janky so maybe just use it for the starting piece. Add other expansions to taste, but it's best not to go crazy as they end up diluting things too much (most expansions rely on additional map tiles with specific symbols on them to trigger the rules, with a lot of expansions they thin out too much). There are a ton of mini expansions, some of these don't add new map tiles like the Phantom and the Messengers so can be added on top of any set of tiles. Don't add the King and Robber if you're playing with more than one 'big' expansion as they become incredibly swingy. The tiles from this mini expansion are fun and unusual though.
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Sep 12, 2018 11:18
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million dollar mack posted:They are indeed wood and the new version seems to lack the slightly stereotypical caricatures so of course I cannot play the new version If it doesn't have Nigel Thornberry then toss it in the trash. FirstAidKite posted:Obviously this would vary from store to store, but is there any kind of unspoken rule with friendly local game stores that you shouldn't show up if all you're going to do is bring in a board game and play it there with some friends? Like, is that considered an okay thing to do or is it like the board game equivalent of people that go into a store and ask for a sample of everything and then leave or what, there's a really nice kinda-local game shop and another definitely-local-but-also-feels-kinda-skeezy game shop we could head to and both have a decent amount of space but it feels like if all we're doing is showing up with no intent to purchase anything, that maybe we shouldn't be there at all. I dunno how supportive game shops are of just letting people come in and game. I've never been to a store with open tables that didn't expect people to wander in and play without purchasing anything. I've never been to a store with table fees, mainly because I live in the burbs where space is plentiful, but I wouldn't turn my nose up at paying a couple of bucks for a place to sit in peace. Any game store that's hostile to gamers for whatever reason is not a store I would continue going to. If you're confused then just ask the nearest employee if it's okay to sit and play. If you're too shy to ask then see if they have a shelf full of opened boxes because a lot of stores have their own little library for this reason.
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Sep 12, 2018 12:21
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Just had a surprise - Commands and Colours: Ancients just released digitally on Steam. 30% off until the 19th.
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Sep 12, 2018 13:32
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al-azad posted:I've never been to a store with open tables that didn't expect people to wander in and play without purchasing anything. I've never been to a store with table fees, mainly because I live in the burbs where space is plentiful, but I wouldn't turn my nose up at paying a couple of bucks for a place to sit in peace. Any game store that's hostile to gamers for whatever reason is not a store I would continue going to. If you're confused then just ask the nearest employee if it's okay to sit and play. If you're too shy to ask then see if they have a shelf full of opened boxes because a lot of stores have their own little library for this reason. The only store I've ever been to that had table fees was a really awful one that had quite a lot of space but was perpetually empty. Gee, i wonder if those facts are correlated. That said at the inner-city stores you'll pretty much have to plan your timing around the already-scheduled trading card game events, since there aren't huge amounts of tables to go around and the scheduled stuff takes priority.
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Sep 12, 2018 13:42
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I gladly pay table fees regularly.
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Sep 12, 2018 13:55
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I'd rather pay table fees and be able to play in peace (terrain included if we're talking miniature wargames) than play for free while getting guilt-tripped into buying poo poo I don't want to support the store.
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Sep 12, 2018 14:11
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In Taipei, Taiwan, there are chains of boardgame stores that charge like $1.33us per person per hour there. I think it can all be used as store credit if you're also buying a game there that day. They're also really popular, with the places getting filled up most nights, at least when I was there last a few years ago. Though, that's in a big city with a culture of 'no one goes to anyones homes, ever', so they kind of need neutral locations to meet to play games. It wouldn't work so well in American suburbs.
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Sep 12, 2018 14:24
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I just walk in with my games and start playing. If they are going to charge me a fee I'm leaving, here in the LA area there are too many other places to play.
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Sep 12, 2018 15:18
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I am allergic to paying sit down fees but I can understand why people would not mind the general idea. Just drives me crazy paying to play a game I may or may not own at a location that's worse than my house and costs me about $8 a beer too. In other news, this just crossed by inbox thanks to the Endeavor KS: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/697528475/the-artemis-project?ref=c056ds Has anyone heard anything about it or has any thoughts?
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Sep 12, 2018 15:20
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FulsomFrank posted:I am allergic to paying sit down fees but I can understand why people would not mind the general idea. Just drives me crazy paying to play a game I may or may not own at a location that's worse than my house and costs me about $8 a beer too. One of the main reasons I host games at a store is to get people interested in the games I have. On Friday the MTG and 40K players were looking over at our 1846 board going "hmm that looks even nerdier..."
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Sep 12, 2018 15:36
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My FLGS has a $5 fee but it covers the whole day/evening and you either spend 5 on something in store or you get 5 in store credit, so I think of it more as an investment. I slowly build up my credit until I can afford a new game. It makes me feel a lot less guilty for buying most of my games online and bringing them in. I gladly pay it because before I went there I had very few gaming friends I could meet up with on a regular basis, so it's been a great way to expand my social circle and find new folks to game with. e: It also makes me feel better for collecting cool, obscure games that I'd never be able to play on my own or with my kids who are too young for most of them. I know I can always get them on the table at the store at some point. And it's always a great feeling to welcome new players to the table and introduce yourself to break the ice. I don't know many places where that's possible other than a game store. VVV That just seems like bad business to me. Wringing your customers dry won't earn their loyalty. Chubbs fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Sep 12, 2018 |
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Sep 12, 2018 15:58
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Chubbs posted:My FLGS has a $5 fee but it covers the whole day/evening and you either spend 5 on something in store or you get 5 in store credit, so I think of it more as an investment. I slowly build up my credit until I can afford a new game. It makes me feel a lot less guilty for buying most of my games online and bringing them in. See, that'd be tolerable but the place near us has this thing where your fee is converted to a credit... that's only good at that exact moment you're there. And you can't combine them. So, if you had a table of four, the five bucks would have to be distributed person to person on a game purchase. AND their games are already overpriced... to account for the "discount". This is on top of the fact that the food stinks and I hate paying for overpriced liquor in an overlit, semi-uncomfortable environment. I fully recognise I am a cheap prick though and perhaps the BG cafe is (mostly) not for me.
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Sep 12, 2018 16:07
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I'm very happy with my new FLGS in Seattle, Cafe Mox. They wisely make their money from serving good beer and passable food, with a decent free library available and no qualms with people bringing their own games. I plan to go to them first for future purchases. Speaking of which, they had a table full of Founders of Gloomhaven for sale. Seems like that has barely been discussed here--was it a disappointment or is it still too new for a consensus to form? PS - Finally had a non-teaching 4-player game of Brass:Brum. Still took about 3 hours. I lost because this lucky bastard got the perfect card draw to drop 2 potteries in 1 turn just before I was set to grab them. He hadn't built or developed any previously, so he completely blindsided me.
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Sep 12, 2018 16:37
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CaptainRightful posted:I The consensus seems to be that there's something good at the heart of it but it feels like a prototype that needed a few more spins. Maybe Mr Gloomhaven will make a version 2 that uses a hex grid and finds a way to share point trickle down information more clearly
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Sep 12, 2018 17:23
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CaptainRightful posted:I'm very happy with my new FLGS in Seattle, Cafe Mox. They wisely make their money from serving good beer and passable food, with a decent free library available and no qualms with people bringing their own games. I plan to go to them first for future purchases. Welcome to Seattle! The Card Kingdom/Mox Boarding House people have been working hard to make the Ballard and Bellevue locations really great places to hang out and game.
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Sep 12, 2018 17:26
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Mojo Jojo posted:The consensus seems to be that there's something good at the heart of it but it feels like a prototype that needed a few more spins. He was saying that he originally used hexes, but 6 point connections were too tight, so he needed squares for 8 point connections. It arriving on the same day as Root though kind of killed it for me. My gaming time is limited, as is my friends patience in learning new games, so Root it is.
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