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loquacius posted:He definitely still would have thought those things while sober, but a sober person is more likely to think "wait, maybe telling this stranger out loud that I would like to impregnate her repeatedly would be a bad idea and keeping that thought to myself would be a better idea" than a drunk person Literally thinking "I'd like to put 10 babies into you" is still pretty creepy though, which is partially my point. It's also, like you say, extremely likely a lot more happened than he's saying in the post,. John Lee posted:You don't have much drinking experience, do you? I've been plastered plenty of times and somehow I've managed to never tell random women exactly how many babies I want to put in them while leering at them as they get out of a hotel pool. I've also never seen anyone say somewhat creepy/gross things while drunk that weren't already creepy/gross people when they were sober. I obviously haven't seen every person in the world while plastered, but in my experience it doesn't turn you into a creep, just makes you less shy about being one.
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I hate believing alcohol just lowers inhibitions because so many men say such gross stuff to me when they’re drunk.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:56
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loquacius posted:You realize that you are in fact arguing that you're more likely to say stupid poo poo while drunk because saying stupid poo poo is a natural result of impaired judgment, right? Im just saying alcohol is not some secret magic to pull peoples true personalities out. Theyre impared and acting accordingly. Thats why you dont get extremely drunk especially in social situations.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:57
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My Imaginary GF posted:Caesar was elected Tribune of the Plebes. Encourage your boyfriend to get involved with local politics, to run, and to make his way up to being a Member. Caesar was a patrician and ineligible for a tribunate. His entry to the ranks of the senate was predicated on a military award (the laurel wreath). You dolt. You buffoon. You poorly-read ignoramus.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:58
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Pick posted:I hate believing alcohol just lowers inhibitions because so many men say such gross stuff to me when they’re drunk. Everyone has intrusive thoughts, some people just start saying that poo poo out loud when they drink. I personally think that's a bit of a self fulfilling problem (oh if I get too drunk I'll say some weird stuff lol) since I've never had that problem.
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Sep 11, 2018 18:59
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People who leap to the "I'm not normally a huge creep, I was drunk!" defense are also huge creeps when they're sober. If they weren't huge creeps they'd show genuine shame and remorse if they do something creepy while drunk. It's as simple as that, so it doesn't really matter whether or not the booze was revealing their true self. (But let's be real, you don't go from zero to "I'D LIKE TO PUT TEN BABIES INTO YOU  " without being a creep beforehand)
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Sep 11, 2018 19:00
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Breetai posted:Caesar was a patrician and ineligible for a tribunate. His entry to the ranks of the senate was predicated on a military award (the laurel wreath). You dolt. You buffoon. You poorly-read ignoramus. pro move is to just get some pleb dude to adopt you that was a whole thing
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Sep 11, 2018 19:00
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Pick posted:I hate believing alcohol just lowers inhibitions because so many men say such gross stuff to me when they’re drunk. wow! pick never heard of beer goggles
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Sep 11, 2018 19:01
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Lone Goat posted:wow! pick never heard of beer goggles Lol
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Sep 11, 2018 19:01
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Sometimes it also recasts what else they believe in and it’s depressing. Like the socialist guys who drunkenly say stuff like that you’re a wasted resource being kept as a luxury product when you should be a common good. And then you’re like hmmmmmm nnnngh
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Sep 11, 2018 19:03
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Not hard to understand the cynicism of women!
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Sep 11, 2018 19:05
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lol but seriously I posted:pro move is to just get some pleb dude to adopt you that was a whole thing Particularly hilarious when the adoptive son was older than the adoptive father.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:06
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The less severe socially relevant results of alcohol intoxication are that it impairs your ability to read social cues and gives you unjustified confidence, meaning you will assume people are responding more positively to you than they really are (when you are hitting on them) or more negatively than they really are (when you want a reason to hit them). The more severe socially relevant effects are emotional deregulation, loss of rationality, and impaired language production and reception. I have a friend who talks complete gibberish when drunk. Alcohol isn't a truth serum. It doesn't reveal your true self. At the same time it doesn't excuse you of responsibility for your actions. Drunk you has continuity with sober you. It's not a completely different person whose actions are fully divorced from your normal self. People need to moderate their drinking, especially if they aren't in an environment with friends who will prevent their worst transgressions and forgive their minor ones.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:08
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TBH I think alcohol should be illegal
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Sep 11, 2018 19:09
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Pick posted:Sometimes it also recasts what else they believe in and it’s depressing. Like the socialist guys who drunkenly say stuff like that you’re a wasted resource being kept as a luxury product when you should be a common good. And then you’re like hmmmmmm nnnngh Dude just wanted you to seize the means of production.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:13
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Depressio111117 posted:I think that’s from Lilo and Stitch. It is, Mr Bubbles says it.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:18
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Pick posted:Sometimes it also recasts what else they believe in and it’s depressing. Like the socialist guys who drunkenly say stuff like that you’re a wasted resource being kept as a luxury product when you should be a common good. And then you’re like hmmmmmm nnnngh Where the hell are you finding people like this?! Sounds like a cartoon
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Sep 11, 2018 19:21
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Lone Goat posted:wow! pick never heard of beer goggles loving L ooooh L
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Sep 11, 2018 19:23
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Yeah that sounds less like someone is a socialist and more like someone ran a Google search for "socialist pickup lines" and found one on Yahoo Answers
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Sep 11, 2018 19:23
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Pick posted:I hate believing alcohol just lowers inhibitions because so many men say such gross stuff to me when they’re drunk. I am drunk and I think your cat avatar is adorable. I apologize for my crassness.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:23
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Breetai posted:Particularly hilarious when the adoptive son was older than the adoptive father. that's the good poo poo love those crazy rear end romans
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Sep 11, 2018 19:24
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Yeah I don't think being drunk is just 100% your unmasked true-self, but it's often an interesting window into someone's darker side. The guy that instantly goes into sexual harassment and assault territory when he gets drunk very likely has some issues with women. Just like the guy who starts rambling on about the jews and banks when drunk probably has some serious antisemitic views he keeps on the down-low. But sometimes people just behave like an rear end when drunk, not because their "true self" is an rear end, but because they're impaired and don't understand that your wife's mormon friend is giving off very obvious signals that she is not enjoying your dead-baby jokes. I've seen some extremely awkward drunken attempts to hit on people before, it's just embarrassing and awkward but it's not a red flag. But I've also seen dudes get creepy as gently caress, turn into aggressive predators and then turn to rage and anger when rejected, those are the people who's "true selves" have been shown. Those same dudes when sober will not remember it that way though, "oh yeah man I was drunk flirting and got shot down oh well no harm done..." But no one gets their entire company banned from a hotel for some awkward failed pickup lines. In short, alcohol is a land of contrasts.
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Xenocides posted:I am drunk and I think your cat avatar is adorable. I apologize for my crassness. What is the name of your company? You are banned
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Sep 11, 2018 19:24
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Chaosfirev posted:Everyone has intrusive thoughts, some people just start saying that poo poo out loud when they drink. it's a mix of this and drunkenness being a widely socially accepted get-out for doing whatever you wouldn't have the balls to do if everyone knew you were doing it deliberately and stone cold sober. I remember an awful lot of dudes in college who'd constantly go to parties and start punching people/groping girls/destroying everything while "wasted" on, like, one can of Coors and have zero doubt that plenty of those guys are managers out trashing hotel rooms on the company card now. if you don't have some just barely repressed bullshit going on and aren't trying to get away with anything being drunk mostly just makes you sleepy, chatty, and occasionally barfy. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 11, 2018 |
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Sep 11, 2018 19:26
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Every time I get drunk I wake up driving a Meals on Wheels car or ladling out vodka stew to the homeless. It genuinely makes me a better person.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:27
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Drunk Nerds posted:What is the name of your company? You are banned Budget Realdolls Inc. I am a product tester.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:29
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Caesar (the famous one) genocided the gauls so bad even quite a few romans were like "my dude, that was probably a 'bit much.'" was it caesar? SPQR doesn't have the best indexing
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Sep 11, 2018 19:37
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https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1039562063738097664?s=21
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Sep 11, 2018 19:38
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to bring this back around to inappropriate sexual comments, mary beard can get it
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Sep 11, 2018 19:39
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Drinking with any regularity is a bad idea, and intoxication is a factor in so much lovely behaviour and lovely relationships. As to alcohol 'making the mask slip', I can't really believe it. It is true in terms of approximate character judgement, like I will think less of a guy who behaves poorly when drunk, not just dismissing it as his drunk self. But overall I don't think it is revealing things people usually think but are in control enough to cover up. Thoughts (not just behaviour) involve both activation and inhibition. If you flip a coin and it comes up heads neurons have to fire for both 'yes, this is heads' and 'no, this isnt tails'. The same is true for beliefs you hold. Drawing that belief into conscious awareness requires both activation of it, and inhibition of all that it is not. When cognition is sufficiently impaired these processes get all hosed up. Think of coprolalia style tourettes. The person isn't swearing and saying obscene things because they are actually angry filthy perverts inside, it is because they know they aren't supposed to say those things so are trying to suppress them but the process is mixed up. Midstage Huntington's disorder often produces aggressive sexual comments from otherwise gentle individuals. Early parkinsonian dementia results in people saying messed up things that all evidence suggests they don't believe. The textbook example is the lifelong civil rights campaigner who suddenly can't stop shouting the n word when a black nurse walks in the room, followed immediately with apologies and asking "did I really say that? I couldn't have, it doesn't make sense". Alcohol has temporary but severe effects on the brain, enough that the lessons learnt from permanent disorders apply.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:41
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It’s hilarious to see guys try to slam on women’s looks online because I’m hot as hell and you’d be scared of me irl you weenies lol
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Sep 11, 2018 19:45
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Pick posted:It’s hilarious to see guys try to slam on women’s looks online because I’m hot as hell and you’d be scared of me irl you weenies lol What if I am already scared of you?
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Sep 11, 2018 19:47
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Pick posted:TBH I think alcohol should be illegal Its straight up a net negative for society but all mammals share an affinity for it so good luck getting us to stop any time soon
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Sep 11, 2018 19:48
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I'll have you know that I respect women enough to be terrified of them regardless of their appearance tyvm.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:48
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Pick aren't you literally a spider irl
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Sep 11, 2018 19:49
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Pick posted:Sometimes it also recasts what else they believe in and it’s depressing. Like the socialist guys who drunkenly say stuff like that you’re a wasted resource being kept as a luxury product when you should be a common good. And then you’re like hmmmmmm nnnngh Just to be clear has anyone ever actually said this to you or are you just having rad thoughts and projecting them on the nearest socialist, whoever that is.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:50
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Captain Yossarian posted:Pick aren't you literally a spider irl I'm scared of spiders
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Captain Yossarian posted:Pick aren't you literally a spider irl Wait, is she Shelob from the new Middle Earth game? Wow, then she is hot....and scary.
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Sep 11, 2018 19:51
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Pick posted:It’s hilarious to see guys try to slam on women’s looks online because I’m hot as hell and you’d be scared of me irl you weenies lol I aint scared of anyone, Id just stare past you while trying to imitate eye contact and then say goodbye in a stiff and awkward manner
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Motherfucker posted:Just to be clear has anyone ever actually said this to you or are you just having rad thoughts and projecting them on the nearest socialist, whoever that is. Yeah but it was likely meant as a joke, but tbh when you’re drunk your delivery is likely to be waaaay off
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