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Uranium posted:Maloney is a member of the No Labels Problem Solvers. “The Problem Solvers group is a big deal,” No Labels Honorary Co-Chair Senator Joe Manchin says. “They can help break the bad habits that have developed in Washington, where people have developed this attitude that you’re only worth talking to if you’re on my team – the Ds or the Rs. We’ll prove that ultimately, we’re all on the same team.” I mean, he's not wrong.
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Blarghalt posted:“The Problem Solvers group is a big deal,” No Labels Honorary Co-Chair Senator Joe Manchin says. “They can help break the bad habits that have developed in Washington, where people have developed this attitude that you’re only worth talking to if you’re on my team – the Ds or the Rs. We’ll prove that ultimately, we’re all on the same team.” He was chosen to take away votes from the progressive white lady because he had an irish-sounding name No Labels Problem Solvers sounds more like an escort service where you can rent politicians
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EugeneJ posted:He was chosen to take away votes from the progressive white lady because he had an irish-sounding name Now that's what I call honest graft.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:03
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Looks like every contested race is done now, carlucci and savino are the only IDC members to survive
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Sep 14, 2018 04:10
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Well, looks like all those posts about how Peralta could eat my rear end finally paid off
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Sep 14, 2018 04:13
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Apraxin posted:Looks like every contested race is done now, carlucci and savino are the only IDC members to survive I can’t wait for Diane Savino to say gently caress it and become a republican when the Dems win a one seat majority.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:15
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Nixon's still going to be on the WFP line, right? WFP bosses have said they intend to remover her and renominate Cuomo. But we’ll see whether Cuomo challenges that and tries to force her to stay on the line to break the WFP.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:15
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gently caress you Peralta! And you too Nixon for trying to stab your own industry in the back but thanks for the pressure on Cuomo. I assume you are both goons.
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CaptainPsyko posted:I can’t wait for Diane Savino to say gently caress it and become a republican when the Dems win a one seat majority. Felder already has that job. CaptainPsyko posted:WFP bosses have said they intend to remover her and renominate Cuomo. But we’ll see whether Cuomo challenges that and tries to force her to stay on the line to break the WFP. Any chance she'll insist on continuing to campaign?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Any chance she'll insist on continuing to campaign? cuomo could only hope and pray for such an outcome
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Felder already has that job. There’s room for another turncoat. quote:Any chance she'll insist on continuing to campaign? She’s shown no intention of doing so. If she stays on the ballot, it’ll be through ratfuckery to force her to.
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Concerned Citizen posted:cuomo could only hope and pray for such an outcome How does that help him?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How does that help him? wfp needs 50k votes in the gov race to maintain automatic ballot status. if she stayed in it would risk that
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How does that help him? Because it basically guarantees the WFP doesn’t get the 5% threshold it needs to maintain guaranteed ballot access for the next four ears. It effectively kills the working families party and Cuomo would love nothing more.
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You're not quite understanding me: if she stays in the race and keeps campaigning, doesn't that siphon votes off from him?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How does that help him? WFP can only be on the ballot if they get a certain share of the electorate in previous races, or something. WFP can be destroyed if they are forced to run someone who won't get a minimum amount of votes, which would help centrist dems by removing some pressure from the progressive wing. I dunno someone else can probably explain it better. CaptainPsyko posted:Because it basically guarantees the WFP doesn’t get the 5% threshold it needs to maintain guaranteed ballot access for the next four ears. It effectively kills the working families party and Cuomo would love nothing more. yeah, this
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Are you absolutely sure that he can't find enough baddems to get an IDC running again? I mean, I hope so, but he's a smooth operator.
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pangstrom posted:Yeah, I mean who knows but I doubt it. If he tries to rebuild the old coalition it basically means he has given up on national ambitions. Which he probably should do either way but, you know, Cuomo. He is petty and cruel, and plagues New York kind with suffering.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:WFP can only be on the ballot if they get a certain share of the electorate in previous races, or something. WFP can be destroyed if they are forced to run someone who won't get a minimum amount of votes, which would help centrist dems by removing some pressure from the progressive wing. I dunno someone else can probably explain it better. That's what happened to the Liberal Party in 2002. They had endorsed Andrew Cuomo for governor, who dropped out of the race when he realized McCall would win the Democratic primary. Unfortunately for the Liberals, it was too late for them to switch their endorsement, and they lost ballot access.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:38
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Supposedly, this is why Crowley resisted taking his name off the WFP line so hard when AOC won -- to help set precedent that it was illegal/against party rules to change it after the Dem nomination is locked up.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:48
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I will be so sad to see another ballot line that exactly mirrors the Dem one every election gone. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I will be so sad to see another ballot line that exactly mirrors the Dem one every election gone. I get to vote for AOC on mine so I'm excited... to leave the rest of the ballot blank.
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Sep 14, 2018 04:52
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I might do a write-in for the statewide positions this time around.
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just got back from Zellnor Myrie's viewing party in Crown Heights and took some good pictures. bask in their glory  
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PS: teachout would have won if maloney didn't split the Hudson Valley vote like the demon he is
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get that OUT of my face posted:PS: teachout would have won if maloney didn't split the Hudson Valley vote like the demon he is It'll be bad for Congress but I hope he loses in November.
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buddhanc posted:Can y'all gimme some particularly egregious stories about IDC peeps https://twitter.com/sethmpk/status/1039553835784724487 bonus: when somebody in that facebook group tagged a staffer, he responded not by denying it, but by saying hamilton is supportive of the LGBT community and opposes conversion therapy anime was right posted:"the left isnt winning" i insist as like 5 leftists destroy the IDC and cuomos hold over the state legislature Absurd Alhazred posted:Blake Morris is looking to be more than 33% in Simcha Felder's district, not too bad for a newcomer against a ridiculously entrenched incumbent. Might have a better chance if the next two sessions have a clear Senate Dem majority and he's no longer able to provide. get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 05:33 on Sep 14, 2018 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:i didn't think i could by shocked by anything jesse hamilton did, but this actually did it Jesus that's hosed up Sounds Like a garbage person
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buddhanc posted:Jesus that's hosed up
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:wait the fuckin idc got headshotted? IDC members owned: Jeff Klein, Jose Peralta, Tony Avella, Jesse Hamilton, Marisol Alcantara, Dave Valesky IDC members remaining: Diane Savino, David Carlucci
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well it's nice to see that sometimes good things are still possible in hellworld
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So Cuomo won his race but lost his grip on the state legislature so had to be personally responsible for vetoing everything he doesn't like?
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lol you worthless fucks in New York seriously voted for an old establishment white guy over a progressive woman Progressive state my loving rear end I hope you're the second state to slip into the atlantic ocean after Florida
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get that OUT of my face posted:pretty much yeah This probably means office expansion companies will make less money this year.
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Jose posted:So Cuomo won his race but lost his grip on the state legislature so had to be personally responsible for vetoing everything he doesn't like? good
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lol https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Former-IDC-senators-fight-to-retain-Democratic-13227848.php To make it even more hilarious the IDC cut a deal with the state dem political machine to follow the party line in exchange for State bad dems not supporting primary challengers. Despite this scheme a majority of IDC bootlickers got wrecked by Berniecrats. quote:All eight of the former IDC members faced ardent primary challenges from their left flank, despite rejoining the mainline Democratic Conference in April as part of an effort to placate their critics and avoid challenges.
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Keep in mind that unless the party composition of the Senate changes, the Republicans will still have (at least) Simcha Felder giving them a majority. So it's not enough that the former IDC members are mostly gone, some people need to win former Republican seats, and no Democrats must lose a seat, or overall equivalent.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Keep in mind that unless the party composition of the Senate changes, the Republicans will still have (at least) Simcha Felder giving them a majority. So it's not enough that the former IDC members are mostly gone, some people need to win former Republican seats, and no Democrats must lose a seat, or overall equivalent. It's a start in the right direction especially on how the IDC being backed by the state dems wasn't enough to save them.
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