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DogonCrook posted:Id rather gaming was legal to be honest and that gambling was spiced up like video games. poo poo. That's probably the joke, but it already is, and there's a lot of overlap. Hell, Konami tried to go full on into gambling machines and abandon regular ol' games. (right as Japan legalised regular ol' gambling and cracked down on pachinko parlours) Also see how Pokemon games took out the slot machine parlours later on since they were getting the games rated higher for Gambling References. I think Japan is or was a lot more lenient about gambling and depictions thereof.
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QuarkJets posted:I'm sorry sir but this is the thread for unpopular opinions, not factual statements You're right. I'm sorry.
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Morrowind sucks even more than Oblivion.
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Mario and nearly all 2d platform games suck.
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Stooge posted:I found Red Dead Redemption to be pretty boring. I would have probably enjoyed RDR more if I hadn't played Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood first.
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I think people that say they like indie games are pretending. Same for people that say they like jazz, but this isn't the thread for that. People that say "indie has to do with publishing, it's not a genre" know exactly what people mean when they say "indie," they're just being pedantic twats. Graphic fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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large publisher influence fucks games up, only produce certain kinds of games, and are more vulnerable to toxic, exploitative trends that emphasize monetization over fun or quality products. indie developers are out there to more or less do what they want and make some money along the way. not all of them obviously, and there are tons and tons of trash indie games, but if it's not published by ea, actiblizzion, ubisoft, etc. i can at least hope there are no loot boxes and other trash investor-driven game design.
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It depends on the kind of indie games. For I think most people, it's that indies make games in styles and genres that big publishers have abandoned, screwed up or never do much of in the first place, so they're the only game in town. (not to mention releasing games during mid-year droughts when nothing else is coming out, for the people who like having new stuff)
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Graphic posted:I think people that say they like indie games are pretending. Same for people that say they like jazz, but this isn't the thread for that. everyone probably has their own definition of what an "indie" game is, you're the one being a pedantic twat by trying to say that your specific definition is the correct one
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spaceblancmange posted:Mario and nearly all 2d platform games suck. Nah, a lot of 2D platformers are fun even in 2018.
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The Dennis System posted:Nah, a lot of 2D platformers are fun even in 2018. 3D Platformers can be good too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH5S1MV2PC4
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QuarkJets posted:everyone probably has their own definition of what an "indie" game is, you're the one being a pedantic twat by trying to say that your specific definition is the correct one I think he's talking about those fake retro games that somehow look worse then actual 8bit Either that or "story" games where it should have been a visual novel instead, with no/lovely gameplay to speak of
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QuarkJets posted:everyone probably has their own definition of what an "indie" game is, you're the one being a pedantic twat by trying to say that your specific definition is the correct one found the pedantic hipster twat. undertale sucks.
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i'm the kind of boring person who is actually excited to purchase AAA video games because their repetetive nature, aversion to innovation or novelty, and their love of selling me $15 skins to pwn noobs with hasn't bored my simpleton brain to death after 20 years of the same old poo poo, but prettier and worse with every iteration. I can't figure out why people like indie games that try novel things and free'd from the mindless unfeeling directives that come from being owned my people who only care about share price! I'm a big loving retard!!!!!!
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Graphic posted:found the pedantic hipster twat. undertale sucks. Turn your monitor back on underdate does indeed suck
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here's a hot take: Witcher 3 is an indie game
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Nioh and Metal Gear Solid V are the best games since Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
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Graphic posted:I think people that say they like indie games are pretending. Same for people that say they like jazz, but this isn't the thread for that. What is the genre then?
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The whole idea of 'genre' in video games is really vague, artificial and unhelpful most of the time, at least the categories that most people know. There is a genuine need for categorisations, but nobody can really agree on where to start.
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Graphic posted:I think people that say they like indie games are pretending. Same for people that say they like jazz, but this isn't the thread for that. Lol if you don't like jazz
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The whole idea of 'genre' in video games is really vague, artificial and unhelpful most of the time, at least the categories that most people know. There is a genuine need for categorisations, but nobody can really agree on where to start. Is there really a genuine need for categorisations? Why?
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Let me tell you all about the Berlin Definition and what a real roguelike is...
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fridge corn posted:Is there really a genuine need for categorisations? Why? Because video games demonstrably have massive amounts of variety in how they play, how they are constructed and what experience they give, to the point where the only things some have in common is being on the same platform, while others are clearly iterations on each other within the same category even if they are unrelated franchises, and people who buy and play games like having a decent way to figure out what they're looking at and what they want to look for in an increasingly swamped market. I mean, that seems pretty obvious. Why wouldn't they?
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Graphic posted:Same for people that say they like jazz, but this isn't the thread for that. Hahahhahahha 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Because video games demonstrably have massive amounts of variety in how they play, how they are constructed and what experience they give, to the point where the only things some have in common is being on the same platform, while others are clearly iterations on each other within the same category even if they are unrelated franchises, and people who buy and play games like having a decent way to figure out what they're looking at and what they want to look for in an increasingly swamped market. so basically you are saying video games need better marketing lmao do you really have that much trouble deciding what games to play?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The whole idea of 'genre' in video games is really vague, artificial and unhelpful most of the time, at least the categories that most people know. There is a genuine need for categorisations, but nobody can really agree on where to start. I find the categorizations generally helpful, if you stick to a really broad brush. If someone tells me that the Witcher 3 is an action RPG then I understand that its gameplay probably involves real-time combat and RPG elements. fridge corn posted:so basically you are saying video games need better marketing lmao No he's saying that it can be useful to have labels for things that vary significantly but that are broadly similar. Kind of like how it's essential to have names for different types of fruit, "apples" and "oranges" aren't just superfluous labels QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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40k is a dumpster fire of a license and every video game that trades on it ends up being worse for it.
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I think RDR 2 is going to loving suck
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Panzeh posted:40k is a dumpster fire of a license and every video game that trades on it ends up being worse for it. This but star wars
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DoctorGonzo posted:I think RDR 2 is going to loving suck "Your horse is too hungry to continue walking, you need to purchase a Cougar Card to top up his oats!"
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DoctorGonzo posted:I think RDR 2 is going to loving suck 
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sebmojo posted:This but star wars Star Wars is absolute rear end, but if Respawn makes a good game out of that dogshit license I might consider it
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sebmojo posted:This but star wars People have in general learned (or been taught, mostly) to beware Star Wars games. For a while the market was starved for Warhammer Fantasy and 40K games and I think that's affected what a lot of people were willing to put up with. There's not really a Warhammer game I'd put over a B-, and the vast majority are shovelware.
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to answer it seriously re: "Indie" as a genre, a genre can be defined by a certain style or tone, even if the specific content (in this case, gameplay mechanics) vary to a great degree. Art film and indie music (which doesn't actually exclude music released by major labels) are the rough analogues to the "indie game." The "indie game" might be a more nebulous concept than art films and indie rock, but the vast majority of people know that when you talk about "indie games" outside of the context of a discussion about game publishing/distribution, you're not talking about Warframe.basic hitler posted:i'm the kind of boring person who is actually excited to purchase AAA video games because their repetetive nature, aversion to innovation or novelty, and their love of selling me $15 skins to pwn noobs with hasn't bored my simpleton brain to death after 20 years of the same old poo poo, but prettier and worse with every iteration. I can't figure out why people like indie games that try novel things and free'd from the mindless unfeeling directives that come from being owned my people who only care about share price! I'm a big loving retard!!!!!! AAA games are generally poo poo too, for totally different reasons than indie games. Each franchise comes out of a factory once per year like clockwork, with an insipid story that says nothing and gameplay so watered down to appeal to everyone that it's satisfying to no one. But indie games are pretentious, boring, short bullshit that usually amount to interesting curiosities instead of fulfilling gaming experiences. The real action is in "B games" or whatever you want to call mid-tier games. They innovate, their developers mostly or do have creative freedom, they're not meant to appeal to everyone, are not expected to sell 10 billion copies, but they have enough financial backing to be an actual video game. A recent example I've been playing recently of something that exemplifies this perfectly is Yakuza 0. Other ones are stuff like XCOM and Dark Souls, which managed to break out into major success, but still retain an authentic identity different than the "AAA" game because of their roots.
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The Dennis System posted:Nah, a lot of 2D platformers are fun even in 2018. I wonder if there are also people who watch movies from 1905 named things like "Kerfuffle at the Cobbler's" or "Horse Crosses the Main Street" and claim they still hold up in 2018.
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steinrokkan posted:I wonder if there are also people who watch movies from 1905 named things like "Kerfuffle at the Cobbler's" or "Horse Crosses the Main Street" and claim they still hold up in 2018. I bet there's even people who still play chess.
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Graphic posted:I think people that say they like indie games are pretending. Same for people that say they like jazz, but this isn't the thread for that. Indie means independent, as in developed by an independent studio without a big publisher. I hope this helps you. Graphic posted:But indie games are pretentious, boring, short bullshit that usually amount to interesting curiosities instead of fulfilling gaming experiences. FTL, Invisible Inc, and a bunch of others are all extremely fulfilling and have tons of replay value, I basically ignore games that are not by small studios or have overly lavish graphics (I hate loading times and not being able to shut a game down in less than 5 seconds). Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Sep 16, 2018 |
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Shibawanko posted:Indie means independent, as in developed by an independent studio without a big publisher. I hope this helps you. http://gamestudies.org/1601/articles/gardagrabarczyk
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sebmojo posted:This but star wars I remember back when nearly every game with the Star Wars license that came out was great. And then George Lucas decided to make three more movies, so it wasn't a dead property that nobody gave a poo poo about anymore and every Star Wars game since then has been bad. Sodomy Hussein posted:There's not really a Warhammer game I'd put over a B-, and the vast majority are shovelware. Bloodbowl is fun! But if you wanted to knock them down to a B- for gutting the game content to make the majority of the teams DLC, I wouldn't blame you.
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