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The Protagonist posted:Hey. Hey get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARXtbWEcM
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Ah, the theme song for the end of history simulator
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I think we broke the liberal
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I think we broke the liberal good
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meanwhile seattle takes a hard look at the homelessness crisis https://twitter.com/leddder/status/1041859501404508160 slippery doc has issued a correction as of 04:17 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1041797176609914887 https://twitter.com/lisa_curry/status/1041799842656223232 lmao what a disgusting human being.
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Duscat posted:this is a dumb as gently caress take those glorious nordic welfare states still support themselves by selling fossil fuels that destroy the planet and by exploiting the third world, directly and indirectly benefitting from imperialism. scandinavia is an example of how the first world can save itself, but under capitalism it necessarily means the rest of humanity has to be enslaved. Ardent Communist posted:bingo. plenty of (dumb) people like to rail against the communists for not allying with the social democrats against Hitler. And, yeah, taken in a vacuum, it was a poor decision. But then you remember that during the revolution in Germany, the social democrats took power and hired proto-fascist veteran's groups to massacre them, killing two of their leaders (Rosa and Karl) and allowing the maintenance of capital. In fact, it's one of the biggest betrayals ever, since if Germany went red, then the Soviet Union would not have been alone and had to resort to cruel and unusual methods merely to survive. no, Stalin and the KPD absolutely deserve to be poo poo on for 'social fascism.' Hitler would have just been some failed clown that probably got gunned down in the street eventually. paving the way for a fascist to take power and then kill 30 million of your people isn't good praxis Graphic has issued a correction as of 05:07 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Sep 18, 2018 05:03
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America also destroys the world through fossil fuels. And bombs. And their citizens are still on food stamps.
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slippery doc posted:soviet union: *sacrifices everything to single-handedly save the world from facism* pretty much this
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Duscat posted:this is a dumb as gently caress take That only worked for a time, now we're turning into normal capitalist countries. The German revolution was our shot at a better world and it failed in large part due to the social democrats.
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Sep 18, 2018 08:00
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Grevling posted:That only worked for a time, now we're turning into normal capitalist countries. Venezuela's Lenin was right, capitalism is responsible for the Fermi Paradox
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Sep 18, 2018 08:02
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Aliens saw Capitalism and laughed and flew the gently caress away to a better place to probe
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if you ask me they pass through unnoticed and unnoticing, owing to the physical barrier between dimensions
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Siljmonster posted:Aliens saw Capitalism and laughed and flew the gently caress away to a better place to probe when the communist aliens see our capitalism, they will come to liberate us from it and establish full communism. so sayeth comrade high commander
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Graphic posted:when the communist aliens see our capitalism, they will come to liberate us from it and establish full communism. so sayeth comrade high commander ____/ 
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actually communism owns, that's a fact established long ago during the time of Christ havent you ever heard of the Communion???
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Sep 18, 2018 10:08
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I mean Jesus specifically spoke against public displays of charity, religious exemptions for taxation and usury
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Jesus and the disciples also told people to give away all their possessions to the poor. Early Christianity seems to have been a form of consumption communism where they lived off the wealth of people who joined the cult until it ran out, which you can do when the world is about to end in any case. There are lots of passages in the bible that can be interpreted to mean being a christian means being communist, but they're often not interpreted that way for obvious reasons. For example there is a guy who's told to give away all his wealth, he gives away most of it and says he's done what was asked of him, and then is admonished for lying and literally gets killed by God. What often gets focused on is the lie, and not what he'd been asked to do in the first place.
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qkkl posted:i was assuming government funded R&D was just basically grants to university researchers, who do tend to be the ones that found companies if their research has business potential. someone has to understand the research after all, and who better than the researchers themselves. they usually get a business-savvy co-founder, and get nice company stock options. any innovations from the university researchers are the property of the university the work for, which spins them out through their tech transfer department into a licensing agreement with a startup who raises the funds to purchase said agreement and start the company. the university researchers are, at best, kept on as advisors
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There's a cornucopia of material in the bible to support a strong base for socialist/communist interpretations, which is why christian socialism and christian communism are are things. I didn't think this was unknown. And the passage against giving charity publicly isn't against charity, it's against rich assholes using charity to aggrandize themselves. See also: the german peasant's war and thomas muntzer quote:The stinking puddle from which usury, thievery and robbery arises is our lords and princes. They make all creatures their property—the fish in the water, the bird in the air, the plant in the earth must all be theirs. Then they proclaim God's commandments among the poor and say, "You shall not steal." They oppress everyone, the poor peasant, the craftsman are skinned and scraped. quote:The league at Allstedt wanted to establish this principle, Omnia sunt communia, ‘All property should be held in common’ and should be distributed to each according to his needs, as the occasion required. Any prince, count, or lord who did not want to do this, after first being warned about it, should be beheaded or hanged. Graphic has issued a correction as of 11:12 on Sep 18, 2018 |
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Grevling posted:Jesus and the disciples also told people to give away all their possessions to the poor. Early Christianity seems to have been a form of consumption communism where they lived off the wealth of people who joined the cult until it ran out, which you can do when the world is about to end in any case. There are lots of passages in the bible that can be interpreted to mean being a christian means being communist, but they're often not interpreted that way for obvious reasons. For example there is a guy who's told to give away all his wealth, he gives away most of it and says he's done what was asked of him, and then is admonished for lying and literally gets killed by God. What often gets focused on is the lie, and not what he'd been asked to do in the first place. Christ’s Birth happened well into the era following the marian reforms and the subsequent development of the Roman Empire, it’s understandable that such an era would be one of apocalyptic conflict and ostentatious wealth
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Duscat posted:this is a dumb as gently caress take I actually live in one of those supposed Nordic utopias. The Social Democrats recently sold complete control over the public energy firm to Goldman Sachs for a pittance and have implemented some of the harshest austerity measures since the '80s. The terminally neoliberal EU also has a stranglehold on the economic policies of its members. The Social Democrats changed their tune on that almost three decades ago and have been whittling away at the welfare state ever since, even when in opposition. Ardent Communist posted:But then you remember that during the revolution in Germany, the social democrats took power and hired proto-fascist veteran's groups to massacre them, killing two of their leaders (Rosa and Karl) and allowing the maintenance of capital. And the Freikorps basically spawned Nazism, so yeah...
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I feel like government itself needs to be a kind of self sacrifice job. To get in you need to give up most of your private wealth or at least have it frozen/inaccessible during your time in government, and are paid a lower to middle class wage. You are also forbidden from accepting anonymous donations. To be able to serve the public you are required to live like them, but there is the ideology that a wealthier person is 'better' or more worthy of authority. If they have earned a lot of money they have surely earned our respect.
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Larry Parrish posted:People talked about what a regressive police state the USSR was but even the shittiest periods of Stalinism after the civil war sounds a lot better to me since it involves not worrying about whether I'll make enough money to eat You are extremely ignorant. This is all I'm willing to say right now, as I'm on my phone, but Jesus Christ what a stupendously idiotic take.
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The Bloop posted:My point was that left/right in a two party system is relative and the Dems are what passes for "left" in America. That's all, and it doesn't belong in this image thread anyway so I apologize and back out if the derail. Full Communism Now I liek the one skeleton who's all like :V
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Paladinus posted:You are extremely ignorant. This is all I'm willing to say right now, as I'm on my phone, but Jesus Christ what a stupendously idiotic take. The Holodomor period is perhaps best known for its plentiful food and lenient policing.
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steinrokkan posted:The Holodomor period is perhaps best known for its plentiful food and lenient policing. Yes, from 2 to 8 million people died of overeating, in fact.
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TheMostFrench posted:I feel like government itself needs to be a kind of self sacrifice job. To get in you need to give up most of your private wealth or at least have it frozen/inaccessible during your time in government, and are paid a lower to middle class wage. You are also forbidden from accepting anonymous donations. To be able to serve the public you are required to live like them, but there is the ideology that a wealthier person is 'better' or more worthy of authority. If they have earned a lot of money they have surely earned our respect. Look up Thomas Sankara to see how this gets you assassinated by capitalists. quote:As President, he lowered his salary to $450 a month and limited his possessions to a car, four bikes, three guitars, a refrigerator, and a broken freezer. He made the new national anthem on one of those guitars.
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Paladinus posted:You are extremely ignorant. This is all I'm willing to say right now, as I'm on my phone, but Jesus Christ what a stupendously idiotic take. I dunno man i'd rather wait in a bread line than hope the cop doesn't notice the Hispanic name on the plate scanner and get his blood up
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IIRC, U.S. prisons have more people incarcerated right now than the gulag system did at its worst under Stalin. He was still a monster, though. Worse yet, the dashing hipster photographs from his youth were likely retouched.
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“Stalin: Better Than The American Prison-Industrial Complex!” is the weakest of weak compliments, to be fair
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Larry Parrish posted:I dunno man i'd rather wait in a bread line than hope the cop doesn't notice the Hispanic name on the plate scanner and get his blood up How about starving to death because your country is considered too ideologically unstable to trust it with grain? Or being shot by NKVD because your neighbour wanted to have your cupboard shelf in the communal kitchen? It's cool to laugh at capitalism and want more socialist policies enacted, or hell, even desire complete overthrow of capitalism. What is extremely uncool, however, is to be dumb enough to think that Stalinist USSR or Maoist China were some beacons of socialist ideals where things were significantly better than in capitalist states of the time. They weren't.
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lol shut the gently caress up liberal
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ITT if you don’t want to be a Ukrainian peasant from the 1930s you’re cucked and gay
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Pirate Radar posted:“Stalin: Better Than The American Prison-Industrial Complex!” is the weakest of weak compliments, to be fair It wasn't better either. And not just because people died in droves in gulags at unprecedented rates (only rivaled by literal nazi death camps), but if we look at percentages, America right now has 666 (heh) prisoners per 100,000 citizens. USSR had 1200-1500 in the 1940s.
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Grevling posted:That only worked for a time, now we're turning into normal capitalist countries. The better world died with the Kronstadt sailors. Thanks, Trotsky and Lenin Bolsheviks were the real counter-revolutionaries
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