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Rocket Pan posted:Well this is clearly wrong. Here's a recent kickass-looking map to conveniently steer the thread back into readability: Demonastery. I've only given it a quick look so far, but the difficulty seems pretty well-balanced.  
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Sep 18, 2018 21:36
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The Kins posted:I'm more of a nerd serf. drat, that looks fantastic. Thanks. I've finally hopped back into wads with Golden Souls 2 which is pretty fun so far, but not very Doomlike.
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Sep 18, 2018 21:50
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That Demonastery is demonstrably demonic.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:47
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Years later and the fleshy hell textures still disturb me.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:53
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way the gently caress into flesh cathedral aesthetic
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Power Walrus posted:I appreciate all the clarification provided over the last page. I honestly don’t know anything about the culture of popular Doom mod devs, and it’s nice to have to some context on how the bigger dogs affect the culture. Honestly, even though I like BD, I’d be happier supporting someone who isn’t an outright shithead, and if people vouch for Brutality’s dev, that’s good enough for me to switch over. Yeah but people who are petty and racist can't help but be petty and racist in everything they do  The Kins posted:I'm more of a nerd serf. That first screenshot looks extremely cool
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Sep 19, 2018 00:18
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i feel like this needs to be emblazoned in 52 pt neon rosewood font but IF YOU ENJOY THINGS MADE BY GARBAGE PEOPLE THAT'S OK IT DOSEN'T MAKE YOU A GARBAGE PERSON (UNLESS YOU DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF THE AUTHOR)
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ETPC posted:i feel like this needs to be emblazoned in 52 pt neon rosewood font but No, we're going in circles, everybody already agrees. You can separate art from artist and if you like a thing that doesn't mean you endorse everything that person ever did. But also if some people choose not to buy a thing or watch or play a thing because the creator is awful as a person that's their own choice and perfectly fair too.
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I think the separating art from the artist approach is valid, but... sometimes the artist's shittiness encroaches upon the art. You can't really separate Cerebus the Aardvark from how awful Dave Sim is past a certain point. You can't really separate Jeepers Creepers from the fact that Victor Salva is a convicted kiddy diddler. I kind of feel like BD falls in a similar zone, given stuff like the horrific comment about the plasma gun in the code and the real-life gore gibs. I think it's also way, way more arguable than the other examples I used because it's not really frontloaded and easily noticeable unless you're actively looking. 
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Sep 19, 2018 00:47
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I really like Earthworm Jim and The Neverhood and Doug TenNapel is a contemptible (and rather contemptuous) human being.
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Sep 19, 2018 00:49
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Oh my God there's video now: https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/1042193337153806336
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Sep 19, 2018 01:13
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Simulated D!Zone/D!Match screens. I remember that poo poo well.
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Sep 19, 2018 02:12
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ETPC posted:i feel like this needs to be emblazoned in 52 pt neon rosewood font but  Not my finest work, but fits the bill. Shadow Hog posted:I really like Earthworm Jim and The Neverhood and Doug TenNapel is a contemptible (and rather contemptuous) human being. Same.  Ularg posted:Oh my God there's video now: Y'know, when it's described like that, it makes it sound a lot more appealing.
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Sep 19, 2018 02:15
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I love it unironically now. I want to see if finished and playable just out of sheer curiosity.
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Sep 19, 2018 02:29
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Yeah its kinda growing on me as a certain aesthetic. It really, really nails that back-of-the-box D!Zone art feeling
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Sep 19, 2018 03:01
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I went looking for some of those D!Zone boxes because I remember seeing the cover of one a lot and always being overly interested in the faked screenshots - especially the weird cylindrical gun-wand-thing - and I found two things: 1) I'm not the only one, and it's awesome to finally get a really good look at those screenshots. They've got a more Marathon-y vibe than I remember, and I also didn't remember there being a whole three fake weapons! 2) Thanks for this, so much, the internet 
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Sep 19, 2018 03:14
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Max Wilco posted:
holy poo poo put this in the op
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Sep 19, 2018 03:32
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Jokes on u bitch, I like things made by and AM a garbage person! 
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Sep 19, 2018 03:34
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ETPC posted:holy poo poo Please don't. I think that image came out terribly. I just made it because I thought it would be funny to do it is exactly as you described it. It's hard to read, and the neon effect looks poor.
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(Credit to the guy who made one of these a few pages back for giving me the idea)
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Sep 19, 2018 05:22
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Doom 3 is too dark.
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Sep 19, 2018 05:27
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drat, I wish I had thought to use the generator, instead of making another dumb Photoshop edit. Would have saved a lot of time, and looked a lot more authentic. 
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Sep 19, 2018 05:41
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It's okay, I like yours better!
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Sep 19, 2018 05:47
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CJacobs posted:It's okay, I like yours better! Thank you. Admittedly, I don't know if the demand for the Blood source code is a thing anymore now that we have BloodGDX. (I imagine the source code would help with the development of that, though.)
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Sep 19, 2018 05:58
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they should release it anyway even though WB owns it
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Sep 19, 2018 06:03
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Sep 19, 2018 06:04
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I like it when the thread comes together to make something beautiful.
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Ularg posted:I like it when the thread comes together to make something beautiful. Agreed. Wait so why do people hate Brutal Doom? 
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Agreed. It's not optimized very well.
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Dual wielding weapons is boring. There I said it. Most people don't know how to design a good dual wield weapon, and most of the time you get one and you lose out on other fun parts of the game, like losing the ability to melee and throw grenades in Halo 2.
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Actually I've never been a big fan of dual-wield weapons either. I suppose I enjoyed the double Enforcers in UT'99 (and I also messed around with the mutator that let you wield all weapons akimbo)...the dual pistols in ROTT weren't too bad (although they're rapidly outclassed by the MP40)...oh, and the dual Uzis in Shadow Warrior are pretty ridiculous and probably one of the best executions I can think of in classic FPS games. But in general, I've never found them satisfying to use. Which is weird, considering that you're literally doubling the firepower, so if one weapon is good, we'd assume that two weapons would be twice as good. But no, in general, they usually feel sloppy and inaccurate, with longer reloads and dwindling ammunition. There's probably a case to be made that you should always dual-wield weapons in the most recent Wolfenstein installments, but I basically never did that--even on some of the hardest settings. Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Sep 19, 2018 |
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Ularg posted:Dual wielding weapons is boring. There I said it. Most people don't know how to design a good dual wield weapon, and most of the time you get one and you lose out on other fun parts of the game, like losing the ability to melee and throw grenades in Halo 2. Max Payne emerges as the best video game series ever made once again
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Halo 1 Assault Rifle is oddly the most satisfying automatic weapon I've ever used. Something about its inaccuracies and it's incredible sound design makes it so satisfying to use. (I need to buy/play max payne)
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i've been messing around with a mod that adds a poo poo ton more characters to samsara and boy is it nice to play with the redneck rampage weapons outside of the terrible redneck rampage levels.
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I can't remember where I read it, but I saw someone talking about the Marathon and Halo games, and they said something along the lines of, "Halo 2 might let you dual wield weapons, but it still pales to Marathon 2's dual wielding in which you could dual wield sawn-off shotguns."
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Ularg posted:Dual wielding weapons is boring. Cream-of-Plenty posted:Actually I've never been a big fan of dual-wield weapons either. I think I'm going to be sick. 
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Haven't played the new one, but in New Order it was way easier just to use one weapon and pop people in the head quickly instead of wasting the surprisingly lacking ammo.
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Max Wilco posted:I can't remember where I read it, but I saw someone talking about the Marathon and Halo games, and they said something along the lines of, "Halo 2 might let you dual wield weapons, but it still pales to Marathon 2's dual wielding in which you could dual wield sawn-off shotguns." *sawn off shotguns that magically reload by revolver ocelot spinning
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