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Paper Diamonds: Sep 2, 2011

It ain't 700# but I just got a PR 360# DL :toot:

# ? Sep 19, 2018 17:33

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# ? May 16, 2024 10:23

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/the-key-for-progress-recognizing-and-overcoming-laziness/

Pretty good read.

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Get a training partner or find a crew to train with
This is also a huge help. In my opinion, it�s not going to make as big of a difference as in-person coaching, but it�s going to make a bigger difference than online coaching.

Training with a partner or a crew accomplishes two important things:

It gives you accountability. If other people are expecting you to show up, it makes you feel more obligated to make it to every training session (half the battle is just showing up). If they�re depending on you for something (like if you have a single training partner and you know they need you to spot them because no one else at your gym can be trusted), this increases the accountability further.

They�ll push you. Good training partners know how to use the stick and the carrot. They give you kudos when you bust your rear end, and they�ll push you when you�re slacking. You�re constantly trying to catch them on lifts where they beat you, and you�re constantly trying to keep your edge on the lifts you�re better at. If there�s a gap in skill, you can still compete on the basis of how hard you work.

Training with partners or a crew of dedicated lifters makes a bigger difference in my own training than any other individual factor. I�m naturally hyper-competitive, and sometimes (often) I find myself slacking when I train alone. However, if I have at least one other person to train with, the quality of my training improves dramatically. I mercilessly talk trash constantly (in a good-natured way. But, in case, you were wondering, I�m not quite the mild-mannered nerd I may come across as online, as all of my previous training partners can attest to), so I know I have to back it up under the bar, against training partners who want to knock me down a peg. My goal is always to do one more rep or one more set than everyone else, and to generally make sure they throw in the towel before I do. I do a pretty good job of creating a competitive yet supportive environment, and we all elevate our training because of it.

You may be wired a little differently, but training with other people can still make a huge difference.

One study showed that married people who got a gym membership and started working out together were almost all still training a year later � dropout rate was only 6.3% � whereas married people who started working out without their partner had a dropout rate of 43%. Attendance was significantly higher for the people who worked out with their spouse as well.

Another study showed that working out with people who are in better shape than you makes you train harder. The researchers instructed people to cycle for 20 minutes at 60-70% of their max heart rate. Some of the people cycled alongside someone who they perceived to be in good shape, and some of them cycled alongside someone who they perceived to be in bad shape. The women cycling with someone who they perceived to be to in good shape maintained an average heart rate 14 beats per minute higher than the women cycling with someone who they perceived to be in bad shape. For men, the difference was 25 beats per minute.

It�s important not just to have people to train with, but to train with people who are good training partners. They should motivate you to work harder and keep you accountable. If they�re demotivating or if they enable laziness and bad habits, you should kick them to the curb.

Much like coaching, if you simply can�t find people to train with in-person, getting plugged into an online community of like-minded individuals can help as well. Just like choosing training partners, find an online community that motivates you and helps you out. Avoid online communities marked by rampant negativity. However, again, in-person trumps online by a broad margin.

# ? Sep 19, 2018 18:30

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

Well, I don't dont skip the gym ever and pushing myself just injures me. Plus I hate people. So I'll pass.

# ? Sep 19, 2018 18:41

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

The Ferret King posted:

Well, I don't dont skip the gym ever and pushing myself just injures me. Plus I hate people. So I'll pass.

Well you post here so this counts as an online community. Sorry

:glomp:

# ? Sep 19, 2018 18:49

nooneofconsequence: Oct 30, 2012; she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

I wish I had a lifting buddy. Asked 3 separate people to spot me today and they all touched the loving bar.

# ? Sep 19, 2018 19:38

Comfy Fleece Sweater: Apr 2, 2013; You see, but you do not observe.

nooneofconsequence posted:

I wish I had a lifting buddy. Asked 3 separate people to spot me today and they all touched the loving bar.

I hate spotting people

They get angry when I don�t help them push like 50% of their ego lifts

Like, dude, if I wanted I could let you die right here, lift less with more control

A spot is for the last rep or two, not the whole loving set which you clearly can�t lift on your own

# ? Sep 19, 2018 19:47

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

I like to spot people benching because then I can impose my sweaty mangroin upon their person

# ? Sep 19, 2018 20:06

Comfy Fleece Sweater: Apr 2, 2013; You see, but you do not observe.

I like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUIfUR7qOg

Hope he doesn�t turn out to be a racist or something

# ? Sep 19, 2018 20:52

nooneofconsequence: Oct 30, 2012; she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUIfUR7qOg

Hope he doesn�t turn out to be a racist or something

Well he was a Marine...

# ? Sep 19, 2018 20:55

VorpalFish: Mar 22, 2007; reasonably awesome^tm

Paper Diamonds posted:

It ain't 700# but I just got a PR 360# DL

Congrats! All PRs own and you're more than half way there.

# ? Sep 19, 2018 21:09

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

The guy is just getting hairier and hairier

# ? Sep 19, 2018 21:16

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUIfUR7qOg

Hope he doesn�t turn out to be a racist or something

I have been following him on IG for a while and he's really good.

# ? Sep 19, 2018 21:27

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Gains of the gods.

# ? Sep 19, 2018 23:30

Guyver: Dec 5, 2006

nooneofconsequence posted:

Well he was a Marine...

A Marine who was really excited to meet Obama.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 00:28

Chinatown: Sep 11, 2001; by Fluffdaddy; Fun Shoe

MarcusSA posted:

Gains of the gods.

is that cottage cheese :stare:

# ? Sep 20, 2018 01:15

Fallows: Jan 20, 2005; If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

MarcusSA posted:

Gains of the gods.

ive been doing stan efferdings monster mash diet for like 2 months :\ i want some cheetos

# ? Sep 20, 2018 01:17

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Chinatown posted:

is that cottage cheese

Yes. Yes it is.

It sounds weird as gently caress but it works? It�s not something I�d do often but it was a nice break from normal plain cottage cheese ( or just some pepper).

# ? Sep 20, 2018 01:23

Fallows: Jan 20, 2005; If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

i thought it was masehdw potatoes

# ? Sep 20, 2018 01:36

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Fallows posted:

i thought it was masehdw potatoes

Hey I�d be down to try that too!

# ? Sep 20, 2018 01:40

Dum Cumpster: Sep 12, 2003; *pozes your neghole*

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUIfUR7qOg

Hope he doesn�t turn out to be a racist or something

He supports starting strength so....

# ? Sep 20, 2018 01:54

Comfy Fleece Sweater: Apr 2, 2013; You see, but you do not observe.

Dum Cumpster posted:

He supports starting strength so....

Oh noooo

I only mention that because his comments contain a lot of MAGA people, I hope he�s cool

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:21

Guyver: Dec 5, 2006

If Feigenbaum ever gets around to putting out Barbell Medicine's novice program he'll probably drop starting strength like a hot potato.

I'm pretty sure the only reason Trall went full Rippetoe in the first place is he started making gains again after getting coaching from Austin Baraki when BBM was still with the starting strength people.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:31

Chinatown: Sep 11, 2001; by Fluffdaddy; Fun Shoe

MarcusSA posted:

Yes. Yes it is.

It sounds weird as gently caress but it works? It�s not something I�d do often but it was a nice break from normal plain cottage cheese ( or just some pepper).

cottage cheetos

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:35

Zil: Jun 4, 2011; Satanically Summoned Citrus

Chinatown posted:

cottage cheetos

These oreo flavors are getting weirder and weirder.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:39

Fallows: Jan 20, 2005; If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

i want some oreos and cheetos right now :\

# ? Sep 20, 2018 02:49

nooneofconsequence: Oct 30, 2012; she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Guyver posted:

If Feigenbaum ever gets around to putting out Barbell Medicine's novice program he'll probably drop starting strength like a hot potato.

I'm pretty sure the only reason Trall went full Rippetoe in the first place is he started making gains again after getting coaching from Austin Baraki when BBM was still with the starting strength people.

I watched a lot of Thrall's videos when I first started lifting and they definitely helped but when he became a certified starting strength coach all his advice became regurgitated ss stuff or started with "my coach Austin.." I mean, I get it, but he became a lot less interesting.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 04:38

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

Male privilege is multiples of 10 without change plates.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:03

The Ferret King: Nov 23, 2003; cluck cluck

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

I like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUIfUR7qOg

Hope he doesn’t turn out to be a racist or something

So you haven't seen the video where he wears a rice hat and tapes his eyes wide so they're squinty and talks in a mock Asian accent...

You have much to rearn young glasshoppah

# ? Sep 20, 2018 05:23

Anti-Hero: Feb 26, 2004

That video made me laugh and then feel guilty.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:50

Collapsing Farts: Jun 29, 2018; ð

are his politics... problematic?????

# ? Sep 20, 2018 07:58

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

He feels guilty because he accidentally killed his partner in a drug bust gone wrong and watching weightlifting videos only momentarily distracts him from his sadness

# ? Sep 20, 2018 08:03

Drunk Driver Dad: Feb 18, 2005

he put out a dumb hit piece on 5/3/1 a while back as well iirc. he's probably okay for new lifters to check some form stuff out and all that i imagine. and if his politics suck, he's at least considerate enough to not flaunt them

# ? Sep 20, 2018 09:20

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

alan thrall took a MAGA chud turn recently iirc

meanwhile today I discovered the magic of the one-armed barbell bench press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhYgYSmW2M

# ? Sep 20, 2018 11:01

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

It�s like 4:30am and I should be sleeping but noooooo I�m in the gym.

I hate this work schedule.

Squats and OHP are good though.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 12:26

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

everyone is taking about OHP and i feel like i'm being pressured into doing it. but i am going to stay strong and loyal to my waifu, the bench

# ? Sep 20, 2018 15:16

EAT FASTER!!!!!!: Sep 21, 2002; Legendary.

MikeCrotch posted:

everyone is taking about OHP and i feel like i'm being pressured into doing it. but i am going to stay strong and loyal to my waifu, the bench

My amigo, por que no los dos?

# ? Sep 20, 2018 15:19

VorpalFish: Mar 22, 2007; reasonably awesome^tm

MikeCrotch posted:

everyone is taking about OHP and i feel like i'm being pressured into doing it. but i am going to stay strong and loyal to my waifu, the bench

She'll never find out. Just do both and tell bench you're working late.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 15:27

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

MikeCrotch posted:

everyone is taking about OHP and i feel like i'm being pressured into doing it. but i am going to stay strong and loyal to my waifu, the bench

As my Spanish friend said why not both? I don�t do them both on the same day but I do alternate.

Squat bench RDL
Squat OHP DL

:shrug:

The OHP is good fun and functional.

https://www.sixstarpro.com/training/6-reasons-standing-overhead-press/

All of those reasons apply. The OHP can straight kick your rear end in all the right ways.

MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Sep 20, 2018

# ? Sep 20, 2018 15:34

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

I already bench or do bench accessories 4 times a week so

and no ohp doesn't count as a bench accessory

or does it?

# ? Sep 20, 2018 16:51

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# ? May 16, 2024 10:23

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

MikeCrotch posted:

I already bench or do bench accessories 4 times a week so

and no ohp doesn't count as a bench accessory

or does it?

IMO OHP is a main lift not accessory.

It can help with your bench though.

# ? Sep 20, 2018 16:54

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