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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Dumb as I sound, this reminded me of my dad so hard that I cried Not dumb at all. I understand, believe me.
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Rockopolis posted:Did Bush or Blair play video games? Or Saddam? Did Kennedy watch war movies?
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Rockopolis posted:Did Bush or Blair play video games? Or Saddam? Did Kennedy watch war movies? Not to give video games too much credit as influencers of public opinion but it’s not just the decision-makers that need to be convinced; if you psych up the general public enough, that sometimes has an effect.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Bin Laden played bootleg rom hacks. HEY GUNS posted:angela merkel enjoys the hell out of Farming Simulator 17  Ainsley McTree posted:Not to give video games too much credit as influencers of public opinion but it’s not just the decision-makers that need to be convinced; if you psych up the general public enough, that sometimes has an effect. I mean, it's less important today than ever - it's not like you have to convince people to get drafted or pay war taxes. Edit Hell, not like Barthas or those GIs decided to start their wars. Rockopolis fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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Sep 20, 2018 22:37
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zoux posted:Whoa the dude that grabs the wire and then BOOM just hands. Surprised you could be that graphic in 1930. What's the timestamp? I've watched it like 1.5 times and didn't notice
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That All Quiet on the Western Front clip is brutal. I think you can tell that it's more immediately post war, it's a lot more visceral and messy than Paths of Glory. edit: the helmet covers are a really nice touch
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Milo and POTUS posted:Didn't some sort of cavalry of that period have coils of rope wrapped around one of their arms, I think their off one, to help with the occasional saber swing It was a jacket called pelisse: 
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Weren't the amputees in the original All Quiet actual veterans from the war too?ChubbyChecker posted:It was a jacket called pelisse: They used those to look cool and pick up chicks really. They sometimes wore their greatcoats in a roll around themselves as crude saber deflection. Don't understand how either can be confused with the sword lanyard/tassel they'd use wrapped around their wrists!
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the pelisse is boss in theory it is designed to keep your arm free while keeping yourself kind of warm and providing a little extra protection but really it's to look fresh and make sure everyone knows that your squadron is the most fly and least disciplined in the whole goddamn army
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's the timestamp? I've watched it like 1.5 times and didn't notice 2:30
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HEY GUNS posted:angela merkel enjoys the hell out of Farming Simulator 17 noscope corn shot?
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Some of those pre-code movies are loving eerie man. That movie Freaks is still unnerving than more recent horror movies by far. e: could have swore there was some sort of a looped rope, impromptu armor at some point. If there was, it must not have worked or I figure it'd have caught on lol Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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On the subject of WWI and Hollywoodquote:Carl Voss was a born leader — when he left the Army after World War I, he went on to command Maori warriors, Roman footsoldiers, and revolutionary Americans.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Some of those pre-code movies are loving eerie man. That movie Freaks is still unnerving than more recent horror movies by far. A rolled up greatcoat around the mid section is pretty much honestly what you are thinking of now, infantry in some nations also did this. Russians also used their rolled greatcoats are improvised haversacks.
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SeanBeansShako posted:A rolled up greatcoat around the mid section is pretty much honestly what you are thinking of now, infantry in some nations also did this. Russians also used their rolled greatcoats are improvised haversacks. You mean like this? 
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It's been out on the civilian market for a while, but it's finally arrived at the US military. The pizza MRE is here. How did they come up with the idea of the MRE? Is it just a natural outgrowth of the obsession with scientific food in the later 20th century?
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golden bubble posted:It's been out on the civilian market for a while, but it's finally arrived at the US military. The pizza MRE is here. How did they come up with the idea of the MRE? Is it just a natural outgrowth of the obsession with scientific food in the later 20th century? Well, obviously, you have to feed troops, and sometimes it's not feasible to cook meals for them. So, you give them field rations, for them to carry around with them. They need to be light, calorically dense, and preservable. The US stated giving soldiers prepared ration packs in 1907 with the "Iron ration', which was basically this compressed bar made from wheat and bullion that soldiers could eat raw or boil in water. The MRE itself dates from 1981, when it was created to replace the existing "MCI" ration, which tended to be disliked by troops and was heavy to carry. The new MRE was lighter, came in more varieties (Originally 13, now like 24), and tended to taste better.
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SeanBeansShako posted:A rolled up greatcoat around the mid section is pretty much honestly what you are thinking of now, infantry in some nations also did this. Russians also used their rolled greatcoats are improvised haversacks. I know cloaks were used for festivities at times way back in the day but I might have been thinking more muay thai wraps for the rope thing. It seems like something you could probably wrap around your forearm from wrist to elbow, might help with an errant slash or something.
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that is cool, thank you for sharing it!
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Milo and POTUS posted:I know cloaks were used for festivities at times way back in the day but I might have been thinking more muay thai wraps for the rope thing. It seems like something you could probably wrap around your forearm from wrist to elbow, might help with an errant slash or something. It will interfere with your ability to use that arm and you don't really want to try to block a sabre with your arm even if it is covered in ropes.
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I meant more a slash from like a knife or something in a street fight but I don't disagree with you. Definitely not military history I guess
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Solaris 2.0 posted:So like every other tin-pit dictator Saddam was always more concerned with internal enemies (real or otherwise) than the external. Makes sense. Oh, he was plenty worried about external enemies too, just not the US:  The US attack, for reference, came across the border at Safwan, rolled through Jalibah, split into two prongs at Nasiriyah to take Kut and Najaf, then converged on Baghdad well before the regular army units stationed along the Green Line could have much say in the matter. Iran was always Iraq's mortal enemy and the one its defense policy was focused on countering. As an aside, everybody should read Cobra II. Its description of Rumsfeld issuing major policy directives and managing the DoD via flurries of cryptic Post-It notes on the basis of neocon "one weird trick" type pop-military-strategy books is... quite something.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Its description of Rumsfeld issuing major policy directives and managing the DoD via flurries of cryptic Post-It notes on the basis of neocon "one weird trick" type pop-military-strategy books is... quite something. I vaguely recall this and I remember it being baffling, depressing and funny at the selfsame time but that's been a while I think and I don't much remember the particulars.
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It's funny how youtube thinks that the next videos I want to watch are Nazi propaganda.
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Epicurius posted:Well, obviously, you have to feed troops, and sometimes it's not feasible to cook meals for them. So, you give them field rations, for them to carry around with them. They need to be light, calorically dense, and preservable. The US stated giving soldiers prepared ration packs in 1907 with the "Iron ration', which was basically this compressed bar made from wheat and bullion that soldiers could eat raw or boil in water. Also interestingly the same researchers subsequently took the research they'd used to develop the MRE with them into private industry and used to to design what would become Lunchables, the prepackaged meal for kids. MREs implemented a number of innovations that really improved soldier's nutrition. For example during trials the food scientists involved discovered that although soldiers would claim to like strong and unique flavors, they'd rapidly grow tired of them and stop eating them. By contrast bland options like white bread and rice tended to earn poor or middling ratings for flavor, but would continue eating them almost indefinitely. Giving users the ability to pick between entrees, including options to customize the meal like a hot sauce packet, these significantly increased the odds people would actually eat as much as they needed. This is mostly vaguely remembered from this New Yorker article I read five years ago. Possibly I'm misremembering the details but I'm just going to link it and not check myself. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food posted:Moskowitz’s path to mastering the bliss point began in earnest not at Harvard but a few months after graduation, 16 miles from Cambridge, in the town of Natick, where the U.S. Army hired him to work in its research labs. The military has long been in a peculiar bind when it comes to food: how to get soldiers to eat more rations when they are in the field. They know that over time, soldiers would gradually find their meals-ready-to-eat so boring that they would toss them away, half-eaten, and not get all the calories they needed. But what was causing this M.R.E.-fatigue was a mystery. “So I started asking soldiers how frequently they would like to eat this or that, trying to figure out which products they would find boring,” Moskowitz said. The answers he got were inconsistent. “They liked flavorful foods like turkey tetrazzini, but only at first; they quickly grew tired of them. On the other hand, mundane foods like white bread would never get them too excited, but they could eat lots and lots of it without feeling they’d had enough.” edit: in this quote it looks like the researcher didn't actually create the first MREs, he just helped improve them.
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I have very very long hair (down to my butt) atm and want to do something with it other than tie it into a bun. Please send me mil history based hairstyles I can make happen.
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sullat posted:It's funny how youtube thinks that the next videos I want to watch are Nazi propaganda. I got a referral to "in defense of Columbus" once. I'll feel bad if it was an actually good breakdown of the guy but being youtube it's probably not and I really don't want to give views to so many shitheads. ughhhh posted:I have very very long hair (down to my butt) atm and want to do something with it other than tie it into a bun. Please send me mil history based hairstyles I can make happen. Whatever you do, post the results.
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ughhhh posted:I have very very long hair (down to my butt) atm and want to do something with it other than tie it into a bun. Please send me mil history based hairstyles I can make happen. 
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sullat posted:It's funny how youtube thinks that the next videos I want to watch are Nazi propaganda. My top recommendation was a video titled "Native American Genocide was a Myth!" and I hate everyone that it exists.
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Don Gato posted:My top recommendation was a video titled "Native American Genocide was a Myth!" and I hate everyone that it exists. Yeah, this poo poo is what I want to avoid giving views to.
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Oh, and for those interested in non-Hollywood productions the Talvisota (Winter War) miniseries appears to be in Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBv8qFtzC8 There is a also a movie version but the miniseries is said to be better. It's Finnish, from the 1980/90's and its about the men from an Ostrobotnian village, particularily about two brothers who are called up at the start of the Winter War. It's rather different form the typical action movie, but the battle scenes are quite brutal.
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I don't really understand these improved saber protection strategies made out of your hair or your coat or whatever. If being protected from sabers is something you actually need, why not wear actual armour? Presumably made of of thin metal to save weight, but still a lot better than cloth/hair.
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The Lone Badger posted:I don't really understand these improved saber protection strategies made out of your hair or your coat or whatever. If being protected from sabers is something you actually need, why not wear actual armour? Presumably made of of thin metal to save weight, but still a lot better than cloth/hair. Armor is heavy, bulky and awkward to store and handle, needs cleaning and maintenance, restricts movement, and costs money. Hair grows out of your head. They're also not, to my understanding, putting any great reliance at all on the protective value of the braids. It's more, you've already got hair and already need to wear clothes for weather protection if nothing else, may as well do so in a style that could give you a lucky escape from a glancing blow. HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Sep 21, 2018 |
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Armor is heavy, bulky and awkward to store and handle, needs cleaning and maintenance, restricts movement, and costs money. Hair grows out of your head. But well constructed armour will be less heavy, less bulky etc for a given level of protection than an improvised substitute. Siivola posted:Who's going to pay for this well-constructed armour? The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Sep 21, 2018 |
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Who's going to pay for this well-constructed armour?
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Siivola posted:Who's going to pay for this well-constructed armour? And really, being a hussar is life in the fast lane so who wants to get old? Get your STDs in, your babies out, and eat a sabre to the neck like a champ
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The Lone Badger posted:But well constructed armour will be less heavy, less bulky etc for a given level of protection than an improvised substitute. Genuinely v. curious what you imagine ‘well constructed armor’ that weighs less than the greatcoat you already carry for when it rains and the hair that is already growing out of your head might look like.
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Look at the tanks with sandbags and tree trunks mounted on them as dubiously effective improvised armour. Same principle.
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