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Endorph posted:the autistic girl in the walking dead season 2 is maybe the worst writing ive ever seen in any video game, ever. dad acting like autism is some impossible to explain malady handed down by elder gods, there being a way to 'save' her but then she dies three minutes later randomly for no reason, everyone acting like she's better off dead I actually never understood what her fuckin problem was lol I thought she was just supposed to be super naive and sheltered
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codenameFANGIO posted:I actually never understood what her fuckin problem was lol it would not surprise me if they did not have any idea what her deal was supposed to be while writing her tho really theres a lot of games where some random character is vaguely autistic in a way that feels intentional but all the dialogue in game is like this HERETOFORE UNKNOWN MALADY VEXES HER DAILY and its like, dude, shes just autistic, hundreds of thousands of people are
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I don't think she was supposed to be autistic either, just heavily sheltered from the reality of the zombie apocalypse by her father.
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Sep 22, 2018 07:51
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Raxivace posted:I don't think she was supposed to be autistic, just heavily sheltered from the reality of the zombie apocalypse by her father.
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Sep 22, 2018 07:52
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She’s definitely autistic and the writer in an interview or commentary was talking about how much she sucks. I’ll have to track it down because I remember it being a talking point on Idle Thumbs (a podcast by campo santo guys who worked on season 1).
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Endorph posted:i think shes supposed to be autistic? 'cause in one scene shes having a kind of meltdown and is curled up in a ball and wringing her hands which is like, a common autism thing, and the way she kinda weirdly fails to relate to clementine is pretty autistic too I actually think you’re right I just think it’s funny that they were so cowardly about it that I didn’t pick it up at all while playing.
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Sep 22, 2018 08:11
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What was that one really bad horror game about escorting around an autistic girl
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Sep 22, 2018 08:13
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Also the Walking Dead franchise in general has a really disturbing underlying theme that in the zombie apocalypse the mentally ill and handicapped are burdens and should probably just be killed Like I do not think they do it on purpose but that is pretty much what always happens
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codenameFANGIO posted:Also the Walking Dead franchise in general has a really disturbing underlying theme that in the zombie apocalypse the mentally ill and handicapped are burdens and should probably just be killed FirstAidKite posted:What was that one really bad horror game about escorting around an autistic girl
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Sep 22, 2018 08:18
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It always struck me as weird that supposed adult and mature media shies away so hard from simply stating that a character is autistic, or even neurodivergent in any way. I get why children's cartoons wouldn't outright say it since I'm sure some network censor wouldn't allow it, but adult media just doesn't have that excuse. Come to think of it, I can't even recall any characters where the narrative just straight up says that they have autism. I guess Symmetra?
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Sep 22, 2018 08:21
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Okay without diving into 4 year old podcasts, the then ceo Kevin Bruner said in an interview she had something like ptsd and was meant to test the players compassion in an apocalyptic scenario.
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Sep 22, 2018 08:22
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Roth posted:Come to think of it, I can't even recall any characters where the narrative just straight up says that they have autism. I guess Symmetra? 
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FirstAidKite posted:What was that one really bad horror game about escorting around an autistic girl Amy
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Sep 22, 2018 08:25
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Yea it was Amy. That game. Lol that game.
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Sep 22, 2018 08:26
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Endorph posted:theres an snk fighting game where a sexy anti-hero lady has her profile casually mention that she has autism and its so dumb that it loops back around to kind of ruling I gave up and looked at the wikipedia list. Thank god for Charlie Kane's unnamed son from Twisted Metal Black, the real representation that we have been craving.
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Sep 22, 2018 08:29
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Endorph posted:theres an snk fighting game where a sexy anti-hero lady has her profile casually mention that she has autism and its so dumb that it loops back around to kind of ruling loving lmao.
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Sep 22, 2018 08:30
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FirstAidKite posted:Yea it was Amy. That game. I think I have been confusing that game with Claire for a while
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Sep 22, 2018 08:31
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By the way, the wikipedia is like, pathetically small https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autistic_fictional_characters
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Sep 22, 2018 08:32
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Oh wait I just remembered one, gotta go grab a screenshot now. There's this time management game series called Heart's Medicine and the head surgeon is this guy who needs his meds or else he falls asleep and is dazed and iirc he can't get his meds because the hospital head stole all of the pharmacy's meds in order to get high in order to distract him from his father issues. ANYWAY, head surgeon is just this dude who is all like "I can only deal with 1 person at a time!" and so you're forced out of the surgical ward at the beginning because he refuses to take on 2 people at the same time and then his profile is just like "He is also autistic" and I'll post a screenshot later once I can get the game installed.
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Sep 22, 2018 08:32
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Sep 22, 2018 08:39
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I'm home for a couple weeks recovering from surgery and I just want to say, video games are good I quit Shadow of War though that poo poo was boring
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Phoenix Wright 123hd coming to ps4, switch No pc because capcom is allergic to money E: oh gently caress no it’s slated for pc!
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suuma posted:I'm home for a couple weeks recovering from surgery and I just want to say, video games are good What kind of surgery did you have? I hope it went well and that recovery is easy and painless
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Roth posted:By the way, the wikipedia is like, pathetically small tbf a lot of wikipedia lists like that are super empty, there's tons of random children's literature and obscure indie games that arent on there, plus its obviously biased towards stuff made in english/available in english
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Roth posted:It always struck me as weird that supposed adult and mature media shies away so hard from simply stating that a character is autistic, or even neurodivergent in any way. I get why children's cartoons wouldn't outright say it since I'm sure some network censor wouldn't allow it, but adult media just doesn't have that excuse. Dude, age of social media. We all know full well that any kind of minor thing can set off the brigades. Imagine they said she's autistic openly and some bored prick with too little real problems to deal with decided to take offence to their depiction of it. Suddenly their Twitter is full of "you are depicting autism as a cripplinng disease, but in truth they are all gods children", "I wish your kid had autism so you would see where you went wrong" and "burn them at the stake and boycott their games".
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Hopper posted:Dude, age of social media. We all know full well that any kind of minor thing can set off the brigades. what
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Hopper posted:Dude, age of social media. We all know full well that any kind of minor thing can set off the brigades. Wouldn't this happen regardless though if they were trying to write a character with some kind of affliction and they did it poorly, completely separate of whether the product directly states the character's affliction?
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Most depictions of autism in media are so loving stupid, like being on the spectrum makes you some kind of magical child savant who speaks in riddles. It's just bizarre.
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FirstAidKite posted:What kind of surgery did you have? I hope it went well and that recovery is easy and painless Lumbar laminectomy to hopefully fix this extreme sciatic neuropathy. Surgery actually went great. They don't give out good medication anymore and I get why but the prevailing thing seems to be "well yeah you're supposed to be in pain you just had surgery  ". Meanwhile I just want to sleep 
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I played Super Hang On on my 3DS this morning for the first time since I played it as a 12 year old with their first console: the megadrive. Whenever I played it back then it was so crushingly tough and I would hit those BirdBird signs over and over. I would always run out of time around section 3 or 4 of Africa and fail equally poorly on the others. Today I made it to section 5 of Africa and nearly the end of the race 
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exquisite tea posted:Most depictions of autism in media are so loving stupid, like being on the spectrum makes you some kind of magical child savant who speaks in riddles. It's just bizarre. I remember watching some YouTube video where this lady was like 'I'm a mother of a teenager with severe autism and this is what it's like' and there's like this teenager there in a diaper with a helmet on and he's just repeatedly violently smacking himself in the head with a blank stare on his face while she tries to restrain him from doing so. I don't remember who the the video was supposed to rebut but it was pretty eye opening compared to what I thought autistic people were like.
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suuma posted:Lumbar laminectomy to hopefully fix this extreme sciatic neuropathy. Surgery actually went great. I had to look up what that and all I can really say is... Shiiiiiit That loving sucks, here's to hoping you'll be painless sooner than later. Just remember that you went through the surgery, you made it, and now you just have to recover, and for every second you spend recovering, that's another second closer to feeling well again. Good luck and I hope everything goes well.
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exquisite tea posted:Most depictions of autism in media are so loving stupid, like being on the spectrum makes you some kind of magical child savant who speaks in riddles. It's just bizarre. my grandpa left a few episodes of the american version of the good doctor on the tv in the past and what i've taken away from that show is that it believes autistic people can invent an unbelievable procedure to save people from brain tumors and also you might not want to let a transgender teen get surgery because maybe they're just wrong and they won't want it in a few years so you should just stonewall any push they make to get it and tell them to wait until they're 18 because that is The Rational Choice
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I wish time machines existed because after killing baby Hitler I would spread this across the Internet in 2000 and watch it become revered as one of those internet hoaxes like akuma in resi2
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I feel like if there are time police they have a department that solely exists to make sure no one kills Hitler, because everyone would want to do it and it would gently caress with the timeline something fierce.
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They made a documentary about it actually, it's called Command & Conquer: Red Alert. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJnMaTx4yjI
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Hopper posted:Dude, age of social media. We all know full well that any kind of minor thing can set off the brigades.
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TOOT BOOT posted:I remember watching some YouTube video where this lady was like 'I'm a mother of a teenager with severe autism and this is what it's like' and there's like this teenager there in a diaper with a helmet on and he's just repeatedly violently smacking himself in the head with a blank stare on his face while she tries to restrain him from doing so. I don't remember who the the video was supposed to rebut but it was pretty eye opening compared to what I thought autistic people were like. It's functionally an issue of like, relating to the world around you, so obviously there's levels with that. I have issues figuring out where people are coming from sometimes and can get defensive, but I'm fully capable of realizing other people are like, human. But with severe autism you just get screaming at any stimulus you comprehend as negative because you're incapable of understanding why things exist or how things are set-up. It's why there used to be the whole 'asperger's' diagnosis, since even if it's fundamentally the same issue the gulf between mild/moderate to severe is so vast in terms of, how capable a person is of functioning, that the ways of treating with it and dealing with it are very different.
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