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Totally. I do them instead of squats or deadlifts as my big-honkin CNS-killing wreck-me lift to keep things spicy.
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Killing Loaf posted:How hard are those to recover from? I'm thinking about adding some in but I'm not sure if I have much more recovery capacity left right now. Honestly they aren’t hard to recover from but I do them quite a bit. Just start with some like 40lb kettle bells and see how you do. Just make sure each walk “rep” is a decent distance. We’ve played with taking slow steps for a shorter distance but I don’t think they work as well as holding for longer distance. Really everyone recovers differently so you won’t know till you try it. It’s a great accessory workout and they don’t call it the waking plank for nothing.
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Or just get a job at amazon lifting heavy things and barely getting paid for it
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MarcusSA posted:Honestly they aren’t hard to recover from but I do them quite a bit. Just start with some like 40lb kettle bells and see how you do. it wouldn't be killer if I was squatting with 80 pounds either.... but if you are doing heavy farmer's walks they are as killer as any of the other big lifts.
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:it wouldn't be killer if I was squatting with 80 pounds either.... but if you are doing heavy farmer's walks they are as killer as any of the other big lifts. How much are you doing when you do them? Also I was assuming the guy above hadn't done them before as part of his routine so starting out light and working them in shouldn't cause any issues 
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Lots of OHP talk, but really isn't asymmetrical 1 arm dumbbell OHP the superior move?
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doverhog posted:Lots of OHP talk, but really isn't asymmetrical 1 arm dumbbell OHP the superior move? No.
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I know it's not in any absolute or normalized sense, that post was more of a "what really is best, and for what goal" kinda post.
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Most people like moving more weight, so you're going to need both arms. You could probably have more fun doing some crazy circus presses though.
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I respect you and agree, for moving the most weight you do the optimal movement for that purpose. I was talking about something else, is 1 hand OHP really a crazy circus press?
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I was just talking about how to have fun with it. Not sure which way you meant superior.
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I meant in some very vague asymmetrical lifts are cool because they train your balance, core, etc. way RIght, I get what you mean. It's all good. doverhog fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Sep 23, 2018 |
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Sep 23, 2018 01:19
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345# squat PR yesterday babyyyyyyy
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yeah but how much weight can you pistol squat
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The 1 arm OHP is great on an accessory day though because it will help your OHP.
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I did 100 yard KB famers walks between RDL sets yesterday and woooo it's good poo poo.
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Gorman Thomas posted:I did 100 yard KB famers walks between RDL sets yesterday and woooo it's good poo poo. My man.
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doverhog posted:Lots of OHP talk, but really isn't asymmetrical 1 arm dumbbell OHP the superior move? Not unless you've got a mustache and a leopard-print singlet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsYi3Rbr8Ys
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Cosmik Slop posted:Not unless you've got a mustache and a leopard-print singlet. Those aren't hard to get.
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MarcusSA posted:How much are you doing when you do them? squat < farmer's walks < deadlifts
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i've been doing one arm dumbell z presses as an OHP accessory. they are fun.
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I do one armed DB clean and presses on my conditioning day. They wipe the floor with me but it is fun. Also I'm really forgetful the last few gym visits, first I forget my phone (luckily was still at the same place where I left it an hour later) and yesterday I left my towel laying somewhere around.
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I read somewhere that the reason the size of standard olympic plates was decided upon was so if someone fell over backwards with the bar in clean position it wouldn't crush the lifter's neck
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Where the hell is he lifting, a visitor's center?
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tbf he didn't let go until he hit the ground, though i'm not sure that counts as "safely lowering"
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MikeCrotch posted:tbf he didn't let go until he hit the ground, though i'm not sure that counts as "safely lowering" tough, but fair.
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MikeCrotch posted:tbf he didn't let go until he hit the ground, though i'm not sure that counts as "safely lowering" Nah, he dropped the bar at the top because he didn't do the eccentric portion. The fact that he dropped the rest of his body along with it is a technicality
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I wanna get a lot better at pull ups how should I do it?
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I wanna get a lot better at pull ups how should I do it? Lose weight.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I wanna get a lot better at pull ups how should I do it? GET BEEFY
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nooneofconsequence posted:Lose weight. This helps but real talk. Dips, lat pull downs, pull ups using bands. Those all help with getting to your first real pull up. Beyond that lat pull downs and doing lots of pull-ups helps if you want to do lots of pull-ups lol.
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Go and do some pullups between sets when you train chest and shoulders. Also do them AMRAP at the end of your workouts no matter what you trained beforehand. Essentially to get better at pullups just do tons of them. Also try to do them as strict as possible, none of the kipping poo poo. ^^^^Lat pulldowns help poo poo at getting better at pullups. You're taking out your whole lower body of the equation, which is essential while performing a pullup. Helios Grime fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Sep 24, 2018 |
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I can do like 4 or 5 strict where I used to be able to do like 15 strict. I need to lose some weight I guess. Also to do a ton of volume.
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Helios Grime posted:
What are you talking about? quote:Pull ups are a compound exercise that works your upper body. The lats do like most of the work in the pull-up. Do lat pull downs.
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I'm sorry, where exactly does it say in that weird block of text that the lat pull down exercise makes you better at pull ups? It sure as poo poo trains your lats which is cool and good and I totally agree, but it ain't making you better at the pull up. I mean, you wouldn't recommend someone to train cable flys to get better at benching. You would tell him to bench more and maybe add the flys as an acessory. Using bands and negatives to teach the proper muscles firing during the exercise is way better than just focusing on the main muscle and doing isolations on it.
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Helios Grime posted:I'm sorry, where exactly does it say in that weird block of text that the lat pull down exercise makes you better at pull ups? It sure as poo poo trains your lats which is cool and good and I totally agree, but it ain't making you better at the pull up. I mean, you wouldn't recommend someone to train cable flys to get better at benching. You would tell him to bench more and maybe add the flys as an acessory. Because Lat pull downs work the lats? I dunno weird concept I know. Working on accessories to get better at main lifts is a thing. I’m not sure what you are arguing here really. He wanted to get better at pull ups and I gave suggestions that help that. Lat pull downs on off days from working on pull-ups absolutely help develop the muscle group needed to get better at pull-ups.
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Biceps do a lot too so curls don't hurt I'm curious about the reasoning of the guy who recommended dips for pullup assistance. Scapular strength in holding the body up? The actions of the shoulder and elbow are literally the opposite of a pullup. MarcusSA posted:What are you talking about? I -think- he's talking about super-strict pullups. I do them where you press your legs together and point your toes like a gymnast, with your knees glutes and abs braced and the movement only coming from the shoulders and arms. Great core exercise and helps isolate the right muscles if you do it that way. Lat pulldowns are fine for extra volume to build muscle... I feel like "only pullups get you better at pullups" is about equivalent to the Starting Strength/Barbell Medicine philosophy that "only lifts that are slight variations of the Big Lifts get you better at the Big Lifts", which is revealed to be absurd if you look at what prominent PL coaches outside of the SS community recommend. Sure it works fine, but so do other approaches. I've tried the "do all of the pullups" approach and it just gets my shoulders upset. Doing a few big sets of pullups once or twice a week and hitting all the relevant muscle groups with more focused exercises (lat pulldown, curls, planks) and variations (chins, rows, different grips, assisted or weighted variations) is Fine.
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