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Enterprise is loving boring, it's almost more engaging when it sucks so hard you're angry.
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Sep 23, 2018 21:56
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corn in the bible posted:I dunno, TATV is probably better than the Dying Dog Sex Dream episode Clearly I'm sheltered.
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Sep 23, 2018 21:56
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Last time I tried to watch a few episodes I just got bored and did my laundry.
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Sep 23, 2018 21:56
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INT - WRITER'S ROOM - 2005 BRANNON BRAGA and RICK BERMAN are doing LINES OF BLOW off GENE'S TOMBSTONE. BRAGA How the gently caress do we end this show, Rick? Jesus, I miss TNG. BERMAN (hungry) TNG, you say? I am the steward of GENE'S VISION, after all. Maybe that's just what Enterprise needs! Sasha, get John and Marina on the phone. I have an idea. EXEUNT with a flourish of dubiously legal prostitutes.
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Sep 23, 2018 21:57
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Pick posted:Enterprise is loving boring, it's almost more engaging when it sucks so hard you're angry. Nah, Enterprise is largely ~okay~, the problem is that it followed the immensely boring Voyager that had already poisoned the well, and no one bothered to watch the show after the first ten episodes.
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Sep 23, 2018 21:58
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Pick posted:fun hater spotted I meant Civil Defense to Meridian.
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Sep 23, 2018 21:59
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It’s almost impressive how there isn’t a single element of TATV worth praise. Even in Enterprise’s worst episodes you can usually dig around and find something to like, but no, not TATV. It wastes Shran, it turns in the shittiest possible Riker and Troi cameos, it kills off Trip in a cheap and nonsensical way, it employs a time-jump without bothering to show any interesting character or tech growth, It sidelines the main cast in their own series finale, and then it whiffs the last loving scene of the entire series by cutting to credits before what should have been a series-defining speech. [some more dialog talking about how essential this speech was to the founding of the Republic] Troi: I had to memorize this speech when I was in grammar school [show doesn't show the speech] I was expecting them to show a whole 5-minute speech, but I guess the people who decided that torture was necessary for a Starfleet captain to do decided speeches are for nerds
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Sep 23, 2018 22:00
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Kibayasu posted:I meant Civil Defense to Meridian. Oh! Yeah yeah.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:02
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Nah, Enterprise is largely ~okay~, the problem is that it followed the immensely boring Voyager that had already poisoned the well, and no one bothered to watch the show after the first ten episodes. "Okay" is the worst level of quality for something. I literally don't remember a single thing that happened in the Enterprise episodes I watched. Literally nothing at all. However, I totally remember the episode of Voyager where 7 of 9 fights The Rock.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:04
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It’s almost impressive how there isn’t a single element of TATV worth praise. Even in Enterprise’s worst episodes you can usually dig around and find something to like, but no, not TATV. It wastes Shran, it turns in the shittiest possible Riker and Troi cameos, it kills off Trip in a cheap and nonsensical way, it employs a time-jump without bothering to show any interesting character or tech growth, It sidelines the main cast in their own series finale, and then it whiffs the last loving scene of the entire series by cutting to credits before what should have been a series-defining speech. Tbf anything those writers would have come up with probably wouldn't have been very good.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:05
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Pick posted:"Okay" is the worst level of quality for something. I literally don't remember a single thing that happened in the Enterprise episodes I watched. Literally nothing at all. However, I totally remember the episode of Voyager where 7 of 9 fights The Rock.  I've been watching random episodes of Enterprise and most of the time I have no memory of them even though I watched them a few years ago.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:08
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How dare you not remember the time when Reed had a lusciously homoerotic fight with the guy running the MACOs? They should have kissed 
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Sep 23, 2018 22:08
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I kind of adore Enterprise, but I will admit that might be because it’s the show I nerded about online most when it was on (came to the message board game just when DS9 and Voyager were wrapping up). It’s pretty blah in places, but it definitely has a very distinct character to it, and it loving tried in its last two seasons. Trek needed a long break at that point, but I was definitely rooting for it when it was on.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:11
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I remember the episode where they found cowboys, because that seemed silly and fun. I also remember the episode where they went back in time to Detroit, because I know Detroit and not a speck of the city in that episode resembled Actual Detroit. For God's sake, if I'm remembering it right it ends with a panning shot of mountains in the distance.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:14
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I mean, depending on which direction you look in Detroit, you will eventually see mountains.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:17
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HD DAD posted:I kind of adore Enterprise, but I will admit that might be because it’s the show I nerded about online most when it was on (came to the message board game just when DS9 and Voyager were wrapping up).  Enterprise is guilty of a great many sins, but at least it (eventually) attempted to be something more than ‘TNG-lite’. Enterprise was one of the first shows I cared enough to tape each week, suffering through all four rocky seasons in real-time. I’ll always make excuses for that show.
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Sep 23, 2018 22:33
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I'll jump on the defence of ENT train. I really have a soft spot for the show, despite the cringing faults, theres a good deal about it I really liked. corn in the bible posted:I dunno, TATV is probably better than the Dying Dog Sex Dream episode Speaking of which, this is an episode I rather liked. Archer is a lovely diplomat who doesn't know what he's doing and lets his dog piss on their sacred trees. He spends the night with the dog while weird stuff is going on in sickbay, stubborn about the aliens, but gets over his poo poo and learns to be a better diplomat and not a hot head. I don't know, its so simple and theres no... deadly virus running rampant, no countdown to a warp core failure, no phaser trained on their ship or anything, just a sick dog and an inexperienced captain having to learn to be a better diplomat. Maybe thats boring, but to me I think it was a fun change of pace and something differently low key.
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Sep 23, 2018 23:07
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Night in Sickbay is a legit good episode. I think it's the first episode to directly address Archer's lovely entitlement and it's good to see him have to chow down on a colossal turd while smiling.
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Sep 23, 2018 23:11
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DrNutt posted:Tbf anything those writers would have come up with probably wouldn't have been very good. Plus, most of us like how Kor went down fighting without being shown the battle. DS9 was just better at executing on an idea. ...presumably. I've never actually seen TATV. Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Night in Sickbay is a legit good episode. I think it's the first episode to directly address Archer's lovely entitlement and it's good to see him have to chow down on a colossal turd while smiling. Its been a while since I watched this episode, but does Archer get to use a ceremonial chainsaw or am I misremembering?
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Sep 24, 2018 00:35
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TV IV: Star Trek: EXEUNT with a flourish of dubiously legal prostitutes.
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Sep 24, 2018 00:47
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RE: Night in sickbay, that one still had Phlox being a nut chasing bats around sick bay or whatever. TATV doesn't even qualify as entertainment. It gives us a nice CGI shot of the Enterprise D at the end. I think that's the best thing I can say about that episode.
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Sep 24, 2018 02:26
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It gives us a nice CGI shot of the Enterprise D at the end. I think that's the best thing I can say about that episode. Brent Spiner's voice-only cameo was kind of neat. v  v
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Sep 24, 2018 02:58
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Enterprise trap sprung 
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Sep 24, 2018 03:25
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DrNutt posted:Tbf anything those writers would have come up with probably wouldn't have been very good. Yeah sure but for something that important and specific you go outside and hire an Obama speechwriter or something because you aren't an rear end in a top hat idiot moron
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Sep 24, 2018 03:51
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The Bloop posted:Yeah sure but for something that important and specific you go outside and hire an Obama speechwriter or something because you aren't an rear end in a top hat idiot moron I'm sure at that point they had that kind of access and budget.
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Sep 24, 2018 04:02
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At that point UPN was was barely holding back active contempt for the show. Season 4 almost didn’t exist lol
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Sep 24, 2018 05:05
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Pick posted:Last time I tried to watch a few episodes I just got bored and did my laundry. The closest vessel is the USS Enterprise. It's a laundry ship! They'll take you the rest of the way
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Sep 24, 2018 05:17
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HD DAD posted:At that point UPN was was barely holding back active contempt for the show. Season 4 almost didn’t exist lol I contributed to the letter-writing campaigns for seasons 4 and (what would have been) 5, so I’m willing to accept blame for 25% of Enterprise. In fairness, I was young and stupid.
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Sep 24, 2018 05:30
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I contributed to the letter-writing campaigns for seasons 4 and (what would have been) 5, so I’m willing to accept blame for 25% of Enterprise. But did you pay money to Save Enterprise?
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Sep 24, 2018 05:43
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Zaroff posted:But did you pay money to Save Enterprise? Nah. Even back then I knew it had zero chance of success, plus it seemed like an easy way to scam a bunch of fans. Did they ever actually refund the $2+ million they raised like they said they would?
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Sep 24, 2018 05:58
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Nah. Even back then I knew it had zero chance of success, plus it seemed like an easy way to scam a bunch of fans. Did they ever actually refund the $2+ million they raised like they said they would? Maybe they just used it to film one extra episode, but they made it a love letter to the fans so it was like giving it back.
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Sep 24, 2018 08:36
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ENT, like VOY, had a really neat premise that was utterly abandoned about five minutes into the series. Such wasted opportunities.
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Sep 24, 2018 09:16
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Nah. Even back then I knew it had zero chance of success, plus it seemed like an easy way to scam a bunch of fans. Did they ever actually refund the $2+ million they raised like they said they would? Nah, the whole thing was a scam. I remember they claimed a "famous Hollywood producer" was on board, leading fans to believe it was someone like Nimoy or Meyer, and then they said the guy's name was Al Vinci. It was quickly discovered that this person literally didn't exist.
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Sep 24, 2018 11:14
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Drone posted:ENT, like VOY, had a really neat premise that was utterly abandoned about five minutes into the series. Such wasted opportunities. I wish that show had been not-vanilla enough to at least make a main character like Reed gay instead of super forgettable.
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Sep 24, 2018 12:11
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It seems really weird to me that the NX-01 didn’t have shields, considering humanity had been in space for some 90 years, meeting new species, trading, working, and living (like Mayweather’s family). No-one in all that time has given any human shield technology?
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Sep 24, 2018 12:24
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The_Doctor posted:It seems really weird to me that the NX-01 didn’t have shields, considering humanity had been in space for some 90 years, meeting new species, trading, working, and living (like Mayweather’s family). No-one in all that time has given any human shield technology? It's been a long time since I've re-watched Enterprise, but I believe the implication was that the Vulcans were deliberately holding back the advance of Starfleet technology, because Vulcans are assholes.
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Sep 24, 2018 12:28
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Well, we apparently terrify them because we have more than one racial trait.
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Sep 24, 2018 12:33
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Timby posted:It's been a long time since I've re-watched Enterprise, but I believe the implication was that the Vulcans were deliberately holding back the advance of Starfleet technology, because Vulcans are assholes. Yeah, part of one of the later seasons was transitioning the Vulcans from arrogant assholes to just arrogant (and explaining why humans would want them in the Federation to begin with).
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Sep 24, 2018 12:35
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Timby posted:Nah, the whole thing was a scam. I remember they claimed a "famous Hollywood producer" was on board, leading fans to believe it was someone like Nimoy or Meyer, and then they said the guy's name was Al Calavicci. It was quickly discovered that this person literally didn't exist. Seems legit.
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Sep 24, 2018 13:12
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Isn't Al Calavicci the hologram companion in Quantum Leap?
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