They should've done Crossed instead of TWD.
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# ? Sep 24, 2018 16:53 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 16:12 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:They originally WERE thinking about making it an anthology show but that went out the window when Frank Darabont left the show. He's more talented than anyone else that's ever been involved with the show so they majorly shot themselves in the foot there. Shot themselves in the foot... all the way to the bank! They've had one of the most popular and profitable shows on television for eight years by keeping what works and not messing with the formula because they know their audience doesn't want to be challenged with too many new ideas.
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# ? Sep 24, 2018 16:57 |
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LifeLynx posted:Shot themselves in the foot... all the way to the bank! They've had one of the most popular and profitable shows on television for eight years by keeping what works and not messing with the formula because they know their audience doesn't want to be challenged with too many new ideas. Seriously, every show runner probably dreams of landing a show where the audience couldn't give less of a poo poo about anything other than the show being on and having new episodes.
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# ? Sep 24, 2018 17:35 |
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I quit TWD after getting tired of wondering where they were finding time to continually wax and wash their cars mid-zombie apocalypse.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 01:55 |
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I quit TWD after they spent all season on a farm looking for a kid and it turned out she was in the loving barn the whole time.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 05:17 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Seriously, every show runner probably dreams of landing a show where the audience couldn't give less of a poo poo about anything other than the show being on and having new episodes. The whole point in trying to be a creative is to be creative.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 05:19 |
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So no. It’s not. Even the biggest hacks don’t want that.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 05:19 |
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CelticPredator posted:The whole point in trying to be a creative is to be creative. Just as often it’s a job and the point is to make make money and not kill yourself working
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 05:20 |
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TheManWithNoName posted:I quit TWD after they spent all season on a farm looking for a kid and it turned out she was in the loving barn the whole time. Highly disappointed that they cut the reaction shot where Rick Grimes slaps his forehead, sending his hat shooting up off of his head to the sound of a kazoo.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 05:25 |
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The Third Man is on netflix, that's one of my favorite old movies.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 07:41 |
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Booyah- posted:The Third Man is on netflix, that's one of my favorite old movies. It's perfect.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 08:24 |
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CelticPredator posted:So no. No one in this industry begrudges a steady check, otherwise The Simpsons would've been cancelled twenty years ago. You'd love to be creative but you'd also like to live in a house, I imagine.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 13:10 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:No one in this industry begrudges a steady check, otherwise The Simpsons would've been cancelled twenty years ago. You'd love to be creative but you'd also like to live in a house, I imagine. I never got the anger out of artists selling out. poo poo, I'm a professional artist and I would sell the gently caress out if I could. I have student loans to pay.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 13:58 |
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Blessed is the actor that gets to take her time and choose what projects are right for them or that they truly believe in or whatever.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 14:11 |
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Alterian posted:I never got the anger out of artists selling out. poo poo, I'm a professional artist and I would sell the gently caress out if I could. I have student loans to pay. I've got quite a few musician friends, and by far the happiest (and most financially stable) one is the guy in 4-5 different cover bands.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 14:11 |
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Finished Mandy yesterday, it's pretty good. Nice visual trip, the second half kinda breaks with the stoned vibe of the first half, and goes for almost slap-stick-like brutality. I guess if the whole film were just this psychological hallucinatory thriller, I'd have liked it better, but that's just me. (then it would also be like Shining, I guess)
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 15:26 |
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CelticPredator posted:The whole point in trying to be a creative is to be creative. CelticPredator posted:So no. Like, what? Have you heard about these things called CBS television shows?
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 16:24 |
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I would say "television shows" full stop.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 16:40 |
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CelticPredator posted:So no. I mean, if I were a showrunner on a successful show, and I somehow knew that the audience didn't care how good it was just so long as it was on and producing new episodes, I would take that as license to just do whatever I wanted.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 17:06 |
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mike12345 posted:Finished Mandy yesterday, it's pretty good. Nice visual trip, the second half kinda breaks with the stoned vibe of the first half, and goes for almost slap-stick-like brutality. Mandy's pretty great and I like the huge split in tone between the first and second halves. I'm not sure the movie would've worked if it was just one or the other for two solid hours. I also believe wholeheartedly that it is one of Nic Cage's best performances. It's worth mentioning that it's a paid rental, and it's still in some theaters scattered around the US. I can confirm that it's worth the trip to the theater.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 18:03 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean, if I were a showrunner on a successful show, and I somehow knew that the audience didn't care how good it was just so long as it was on and producing new episodes, I would take that as license to just do whatever I wanted.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 18:14 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean, if I were a showrunner on a successful show, and I somehow knew that the audience didn't care how good it was just so long as it was on and producing new episodes, I would take that as license to just do whatever I wanted. Sure, you say that, but you submit one Big Bang Theory script about Sheldon having sex with - sorry, making love to - a German Shepard and boom, you’re blacklisted. cowards
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 18:19 |
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Enos Cabell posted:I've got quite a few musician friends, and by far the happiest (and most financially stable) one is the guy in 4-5 different cover bands. If you're fine as a creative making mediocre stuff that doesn't challenge anything. There is nothing wrong with that. But don't expect people to think you're a great artist. That's what selling out is. You sell out your vision and creativity so that you can have money. Again nothing wrong with it ethically but at the end of the day it's still mediocre.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 18:50 |
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A lot of it is probably network execs, also. I hear all the time about show runners who step down because their "vision" doesn't match up with what the network wants. Well now the network is still making the same millions on the show because they're not too proud to churn out the same episode sixteen times a year, and the former show runner has to suffer the indignity of having the same yacht for two years in a row because they have to gamble on a new TV series becoming a hit.
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# ? Sep 25, 2018 19:43 |
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LifeLynx posted:A lot of it is probably network execs, also. I hear all the time about show runners who step down because their "vision" doesn't match up with what the network wants. Well now the network is still making the same millions on the show because they're not too proud to churn out the same episode sixteen times a year, and the former show runner has to suffer the indignity of having the same yacht for two years in a row because they have to gamble on a new TV series becoming a hit. While there are some high profile exceptions that you hear about — e.g., Frank Darabont with TWD, Bryan Fuller and American Gods — showrunners are often just elevated writers who came up with the concept, or directors / producers that are brought in to helm the ship. They’re rarely the ones cashing the big checks like you’re imagining. Usually that’s the Executive Producers (although sometimes that’s the same person). In the over-saturated TV market it’s really difficult to take a show from inception to season 1 and then keep it running for lots of seasons. Especially as network TV represents a smaller portion of production every year. I think the number of show runners abandoning an idea they originated because of creative differences is pretty small. And if you’re a writer or director at heart it’s much more enticing to try your luck with your own material than running a difficult show for someone else. Even if the paycheck is generous it might be less than you think, and it’s an all-consuming job. Most people in the industry are fans just as much as the critics and viewers and want to make their own mark. And of course, no one wants to work on a bad show, but it still takes a lot of effort to make one. But Hundu is still right, that most people dream of having steady work at that level. The discussion is theoretical for 99% of people. I’m just giving some sympathy to those who are running shows. Cocoa Ninja fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Sep 26, 2018 |
# ? Sep 26, 2018 00:10 |
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Prime has a show called ‘Sentosha: Battle Wheels’. The cast is apparently all Japanese comedians/celebrities so we have no idea who they are, but it’s a goofy demolition derby type show. You can skip the first episode if you just want to get to the car challenges, because that one is just introducing everyone.
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# ? Sep 26, 2018 01:58 |
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LadyPictureShow posted:Prime has a show called ‘Sentosha: Battle Wheels’. Is it like a live action Wacky Races?
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# ? Sep 26, 2018 12:46 |
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ElMudo posted:Is it like a live action Wacky Races? I considered calling it that in my post, actually.
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# ? Sep 26, 2018 14:28 |
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LadyPictureShow posted:I considered calling it that in my post, actually. I'm sold.
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# ? Sep 26, 2018 14:56 |
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And it has a ninja paint brigade.
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# ? Sep 26, 2018 23:01 |
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Sweet Norsemen S2 is on Netflix.
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 01:21 |
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If you have Shudder (and now is really the season to have Shudder) you should really check out Revenge. It's a tense rape-revenge flick with fantastic cinematography and lots of well-deserved gore. And the rape mostly happens off-screen if you're squeamish about that sort of thing. Seems like it would be a real crowd-pleaser despite the subject matter.
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 02:29 |
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Friendly reminder that VRV has Shudder's catalogue plus a ton of other stuff. It's a really good service.
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 02:54 |
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tweet my meat posted:Friendly reminder that VRV has Shudder's catalogue plus a ton of other stuff. It's a really good service. Yes but Shudder has Joe Bob Briggs doing monster movie marathons. If they can just get a show for Gilbert Gottfried and Rhonda Shear the channel will be complete.
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 03:10 |
Raskolnikov2089 posted:Yes but Shudder has Joe Bob Briggs doing monster movie marathons. Shudder is actually a sub-channel that comes VRV, so you get the Joe Bob stuff too. I think there's a little bit of catalog lag, and the UI isn't as nice, but at least VRV has a PS4 app.
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 17:35 |
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a foolish pianist posted:Shudder is actually a sub-channel that comes VRV, so you get the Joe Bob stuff too. Does VRV have the same restrictions as Amazon when it comes to Shudder?
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 17:56 |
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feedmyleg posted:Does VRV have the same restrictions as Amazon when it comes to Shudder? Yes and no. It doesn't have the live stream, so when they do stuff like Joe Bob you have to wait for them to put it up as a series, but VRV is usually a lot quicker to update with new movies than Amazon is.
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# ? Sep 27, 2018 21:01 |
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Finished Godless on Netflix the other day and it was... OK. I felt it was let down by the final gunfight - kind of a disappointing mess of action cliches. I guess everything can’t be Unforgiven but it really took me out of it; I think a modern series needs to be a bit more grounded to rise to the top. The cast being primarily female was refreshing for a Western. Finished up Ash vs Evil Dead yesterday after being stalled for months halfway though season 2. The last two episodes were worth it but I probably won’t bother watching season 3 when it hits Netflix. Working on finishing Black Mirror S4 now after also abandoning it for a while (trying to wrap up things before I switch to another service for a while) and I really, really hate episode 3. The tech hook is lame nonsense and the main character is utterly unsympathetic. Not sure I’m going to bother with the rest of it after that; the only episode I’ve really heard mentioned in this season was the first one. Has this show run its course at this point?
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# ? Sep 28, 2018 02:20 |
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Yeah Godless was pretty mediocre imo.
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# ? Sep 28, 2018 02:21 |
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The climax fight was the worst part of Godless, but it did never do everything it could've done with the town.
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# ? Sep 28, 2018 02:26 |