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They are all bad for new players because it is hard to catch up and/or you have to wait for event reruns. The new game from Nintendo/Cygames starts later this week if you want to get in on the ground floor. Dragalia Lost
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dogsupremacy posted:which one of the star gatcha bullshit games is the best. The Fire Emblem tactics one is kinda fun but it seems like its been out awhile and has layers and layers of different nonsense already stacked on for long time players while the new player content is garbo. Is there any other ones that are worthwhile. how is fire emblem bad as a new player. are you just mad that you can't tackle some wacky skull-crushing special event dungeon after playing for 30 minutes? gachas are bad but fire emblem at least has real gameplay
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dogsupremacy posted:which one of the star gatcha bullshit games is the best. The Fire Emblem tactics one is kinda fun but it seems like its been out awhile and has layers and layers of different nonsense already stacked on for long time players while the new player content is garbo. Is there any other ones that are worthwhile. FEH is probably one of the better ones for new players, it's fairly generous with giving out summon currency and free characters. There's some really hard content that only people with really good teams and understanding of the game can beat, but so far I have never seen them lock anything of importance behind those battles, it seems to just be there to give whales and master minmaxers something to challenge their monster teams. RottenK fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Dragalia Lost is coming out on Thursday and is also done by Nintendo, which means in gatcha genre it'll be on the upper tier.
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Sep 26, 2018 00:48
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Anyone playing Dungeon Maker? Last time I had survey bucks, I meant to get Guild of Dungeoneering, but got confused and thought Dungeon Maker was the game I had been thinking of. I was going to refund it but then I decided to try it out and wow, I'm very impressed. And they keep updating it, fixing the flow and graphics, newer shortcuts, etc.
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Sep 26, 2018 03:53
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone playing Dungeon Maker? Last time I had survey bucks, I meant to get Guild of Dungeoneering, but got confused and thought Dungeon Maker was the game I had been thinking of. I was going to refund it but then I decided to try it out and wow, I'm very impressed. And they keep updating it, fixing the flow and graphics, newer shortcuts, etc.
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Sep 26, 2018 03:57
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone playing Dungeon Maker? Last time I had survey bucks, I meant to get Guild of Dungeoneering, but got confused and thought Dungeon Maker was the game I had been thinking of. I was going to refund it but then I decided to try it out and wow, I'm very impressed. And they keep updating it, fixing the flow and graphics, newer shortcuts, etc. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3859554 There's a whole thread for it. The game is surprisingly deep.
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Ah, wow, thanks! Had no idea, obviously.
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Sep 26, 2018 07:02
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I was wondering if people were going to give a single flaming poo poo about Dragalia. Looks like the answer is: maybe! For what it's worth, Granblue Fantasy, the real flagship title of the developer in question, is probably my favorite mobile title overall (I think Japan FGO does some things better/in a more player-friendly fashion, but it also has a few issues FGO doesn't) so I'm extremely interested in how Dragalia will turn out, especially with Nintendo overseeing it.
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Sep 26, 2018 07:11
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I'm assuming there's no crossplay between Android and iOS for it? IGN put out a gameplay vid which looked decent enough.
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Sep 26, 2018 07:55
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I'm making an alliance for C&C Rivals. There's no USSR flag and the Russian Federation one just doesn't have the same chutzpah. Look up "We shall have RESPECT" and I'll add you. For folks that haven't played it: progression is Clash Royale, gameplay is hex based movement fighting over control points. Controls feel intuitive, looks good, no Frank Klepacki music.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Anyone playing Dungeon Maker? Last time I had survey bucks, I meant to get Guild of Dungeoneering, but got confused and thought Dungeon Maker was the game I had been thinking of. I was going to refund it but then I decided to try it out and wow, I'm very impressed. And they keep updating it, fixing the flow and graphics, newer shortcuts, etc. Dungeon Maker is good poo poo. Especially once you buy out a bunch of the original Abyss packs and can start carrying your traps and monsters from one run to the next. Going back to FFRK for a second, it's interesting their strategy for boosting monetization. It's unique in that it doesn't prime the pump on low odds ultra rare gacha like almost every other company. The one time years ago it tried screwing with the odds the fanbase found out immediately and rioted so hard Fortune actually wrote an article about it. The gist of it is that for the new end game content it's all about quantity. For example the new realm-based dungeons basically require a team composed solely of characters from its own Final Fantasy game. There's 17 FF games represented in FFRK so that's essentially 85 characters minimum you need good relics on to beat all of the end game so far. There's also new elemental dungeons that require a similar amount of setup for elemental teams of both magic and physical so you see where that's going. That's a lot of teams and characters to setup and equip. Anyway, I think the fanbase hasn't been bitter about this (at least I've seen on reddit) is mostly that FFRK can afford to be generous about giving away relics or premium currency, or even letting you select exactly what relic you want in pulls, because you're not working on one or two A teams like most gacha. Even if you get a really good relic through the free daily draw (15% odds of 5+ or better), it'll only go so far in the end game content. The flipside to this is also that if you're a new player you can easily setup an A team to devour all the non end game content extremely easily since there's no real restrictions on team makeup.
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Sep 26, 2018 11:33
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Thundercracker posted:Dungeon Maker is good poo poo. Especially once you buy out a bunch of the original Abyss packs and can start carrying your traps and monsters from one run to the next. This jives exactly with my experience having started in July. It's the second least predatory gacha I've played.
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thuly posted:I'm making an alliance for C&C Rivals. There's no USSR flag and the Russian Federation one just doesn't have the same chutzpah. Look up "We shall have RESPECT" and I'll add you. I've been enjoying it but is the beta wide open yet? If not it will be a wait before more goons can join
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Sep 26, 2018 12:22
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NinjaDebugger posted:This jives exactly with my experience having started in July. It's the second least predatory gacha I've played. Whats the first?
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Sep 26, 2018 12:33
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Thundercracker posted:Whats the first? Fantasy war tactics, which didn't make enough money and got sold to valofe and is dying. It was super player friendly, though. Same equipment gacha concept as ffrk, but most gear not character locked, and in season two they introduced a mileage bar, so every fifteen or so ten pulls you get to choose a max rarity set. And that pull total includes the daily free pull, which is on banner and at full normal rates.
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Sep 26, 2018 12:51
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Lutha Mahtin posted:how is fire emblem bad as a new player. are you just mad that you can't tackle some wacky skull-crushing special event dungeon after playing for 30 minutes? gachas are bad but fire emblem at least has real gameplay Yeah, out of all gachas I tried, FE was the one to keep me playing after a week. I love the idea of a bite-sized TRPG. Even if you don't want to engage with fifty different currencies and game mods, you still can get pretty far into the campaign.
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Sep 26, 2018 13:06
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Harvest Moon: Light of Hope is now out. It's $14.99.
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Sep 26, 2018 16:36
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Did Natsume fire their art department or something? Harvest Moon games have all been looking like poo poo since, like, the Gamecube days. Anyway I'm not expecting much but has anyone played this one? Is it any good?
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Sep 26, 2018 16:47
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Morpheus posted:Did Natsume fire their art department or something? Harvest Moon games have all been looking like poo poo since, like, the Gamecube days. The OG group, Marvelous, doesn't do Harvest Moons anymore, but they did do the Monster Hunter Stories game that also just released on Android.
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Sep 26, 2018 16:57
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Morpheus posted:Did Natsume fire their art department or something? Harvest Moon games have all been looking like poo poo since, like, the Gamecube days. Natsume has not localized a 'Story of Seasons' title since they decided to make their own Harvest Moon titles. Basically, they have no experience in making their own games but are banking on the name recognition in order to try and fool people into buying their terrible self developed titles.
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Sep 26, 2018 16:58
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Dragalia Lost is available on the Play Store now. Download is supposed to be around 2.6gb. Server opens at 3am Eastern, midnight Pacific, 4pm Japan etc. Edit: Welp. Can't download more than the ~80mb APK until the servers go up. grrarg fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 02:07
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grrarg posted:Dragalia Lost is available on the Play Store now. Download is supposed to be around 2.6gb. Server opens at 3am Eastern, midnight Pacific, 4pm Japan etc. Incompatible with my devices O_o All six of them. That can't be right
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Sep 27, 2018 02:49
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tentacles posted:Incompatible with my devices O_o All six of them. That can't be right Google's Play Store uses the same error message when the game is not available in your region. The APK is up on apkpure though and it launches just fine on my filthy, foreign device. They might prevent me from registering later or something, but we'll see. Edit: Nope, game runs but trying to play now that the servers are up gets me a device not authorized error and I don't care enough to use a VPN. That or it's an emulator thing. Det_no fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Sep 27, 2018 |
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Sep 27, 2018 03:07
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Det_no posted:Google's Play Store uses the same error message when the game is not available in your region. The APK is up on apkpure though and it launches just fine on my filthy, foreign device. They might prevent me from registering later or something, but we'll see. Ahhhhh no wonder. I'll give side-loading a shot, thanks!
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Sep 27, 2018 03:21
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grrarg posted:Dragalia Lost is available on the Play Store now. Download is supposed to be around 2.6gb. Server opens at 3am Eastern, midnight Pacific, 4pm Japan etc. The reviews are great already.
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I'll... wait until I get home from work tomorrow to download it. I hope goons will have some advice for it by then...
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Kheldarn posted:I'll... wait until I get home from work tomorrow to download it. I hope goons will have some advice for it by then... There's probably going to be a lot of rerolling tonight; the 5* rates for things that matter look fairly bad. (The real question will be just how much that truly matters.)
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Good thing is you're guaranteed at least ten rolls from the bonus plus whatever tutorial stuff so it'll be easy to get something you want.
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tentacles posted:Incompatible with my devices O_o All six of them. That can't be right
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Sep 27, 2018 06:47
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grrarg posted:Are they all rooted? Nintendo blocks rooted devices. Nah, just a couple. Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp lists them all as incompatible as well so I'm guessing it's a regional issue or Nintendo just hates me in particular
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SpaceDrake posted:There's probably going to be a lot of rerolling tonight; the 5* rates for things that matter look fairly bad. (The real question will be just how much that truly matters.) At very least I got 2x 10 pulls after the intro. If you set a helper you get 300 currency to help for your second pull. It also appears you can draw 5* dragons, weapons and characters. I ended up getting a 5* Dragon Joan of Arc. I have no idea if it's good but I'll keep moving with it.
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You guys are aware that things other than 5* allow you to still play some of these games, right?
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Sep 27, 2018 13:09
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New Leaf posted:You guys are aware that things other than 5* allow you to still play some of these games, right? If we don't have a dragon to chase then what's the point.
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m.hache posted:If we don't have a dragon to chase then what's the point. I mean they are being generous and when rooted its incredibly easy to reroll so I'm gonna get my 5* cause why not. It's a time honoured tradition to reroll for far too long for stuff that is probably obsolete shortly.
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Either way, once you guys/gals figure out you're going to play, my IGN is ArteaSA. Friend ID: 1705 0946 552
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Sep 27, 2018 13:54
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New Leaf posted:You guys are aware that things other than 5* allow you to still play some of these games, right? Pretty sure the answer is no because Goons can't just have fun
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grrarg posted:Are they all rooted? Nintendo blocks rooted devices. Says it's incompatible with my devices, though I'm in Canada so maybe a release here is being delayed. Or my phone is just too old I guess (Galaxy S6).
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Morpheus posted:Says it's incompatible with my devices, though I'm in Canada so maybe a release here is being delayed. Or my phone is just too old I guess (Galaxy S6). I Sideloaded it using the APK here in Canada.
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Len posted:Pretty sure the answer is no because Goons can't just have fun Or, y'know, optimization is fun for some people.
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