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fatherboxx posted:Wasn't it a passion project for Spielberg, Jackson and Wright at the same time? and obviously all three have their schedules filled It didn't set America on fire, no, but it did do very respectably in the countries that give a gently caress about Tintin
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I've watched it a couple of times now, trying to figure out which writers did which bits. Most of Captain Haddock's speeches sound like something Moffat would write. They all sound like things he'd have written for Peter Capaldi on Doctor Who.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:49
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ALFbrot posted:It didn't set America on fire, no, but it did do very respectably in the countries that give a gently caress about Tintin I.e., the civilized world
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Sep 25, 2018 19:50
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've watched it a couple of times now, trying to figure out which writers did which bits. more obviously, he wrote the bit with the unlocked door - he reused that for the 50th Anniversary Dr Who special.
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Sep 26, 2018 01:26
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Tintin movie is great fun. Great adaptation? Not sure, but I do like it a lot. It’s very imaginative as well; a final showdown with dockyard cranes was not the most obvious way to settle things but I respect it. There’s some fun camera work in there too.
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Sep 26, 2018 15:23
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Considering the Tintin movie is a Frankenstein's monster of cobbled-together stories from the albums it's actually a pretty decent adaptation. The action scenes and Haddock's character are based on the early books which were much more cartoony and crazy than the rest. I'd love if a sequel would mirror Haddock's character development. If you read the books in order Haddock goes from being an insane alcoholic to being Tintin's rock and the voice of reason. And his development never feels rushed or forced. I re-read my collection (in order of publication which I had never done as a kid) when the movie was released and Haddock's arc quickly became one of my favorite things about the comic. In the final (released) album he even stops drinking!
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Sep 27, 2018 06:54
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The chase scene through the city in Tintin is the best use of 3D I have seen. The depth it gave to the city looked amazing, the closest a movie has ever gotten to the feeling of actually looking out over a landscape with differences in elevation. It is probably the only movie that I feel really glad to have seen in 3D and sad that I'm unlikely to get the opportunity to do so again.
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Sep 27, 2018 07:18
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The Tintin movie was legit, yeah. I was a little put off by the facial animations at first, and the plot, as has been stated, is a little slapdash, but it was never boring and I mostly was having too much fun trying to catch all of the references they threw in (I read every book I could get my hands on; I don't know how good the translations were, but they flowed smooth enough to me). I know I missed some. So Smallfoot is opening this weekend, and I might see it; it didn't seem to do too well with critics on initial release, but they've warmed to it. The animation seems... nice; got this really soft, earnest feeling to it that I find inviting (even though it has "dance party ending" written all the hell over it). For some reason the designs remind me a little bit of the Hotel Transylvania movies, something about the eyes and the essential rubbery quality of the animation, yet I want nothing to do with HT3* and Smallfoot seems intriguing. Perhaps acting is a part of it, as I can tell Channing Tatum is assuming a character (one his is quite good at, but even so) whereas Sandler is just Sandler putting on some outrageous accent again. *Although apparently that one wasn't bad? Can somebody confirm?
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Sep 27, 2018 13:58
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I’m looking forward to Smallfoot, it’s been ages since I’ve gone to an animated film in theaters so whyyyy not.
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Sep 27, 2018 14:37
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resurgam40 posted:*Although apparently that one wasn't bad? Can somebody confirm? Haven't seen it but Genndy was outright involved in 3's screenplay (unlike the previous two; meanwhile the 2nd one was the one to have Sandler outright co-write the screenplay)
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Sep 27, 2018 20:07
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One animated feature I remember thinking was particularly impressive the first time I saw it was The Great Mouse Detective, in particular the bit where Basil chases Ratigan into the cogs in Big Ben, which I think used some interesting "camera" angles and that kind of thing. At the very least it wasn't like anything I think I'd seen in another Disney movie at the time.
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Sep 27, 2018 20:25
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IIRC it was Disney's first major use of CGI for anything in their films, so that's probably why; they pre-rendered all the fancy angles they wanted for the backgrounds of that chase scene, then traced over the results for something that looked hand-drawn but in reality, not so much.
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Sep 27, 2018 20:51
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That scene knocks my fuckin socks off
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Sep 27, 2018 22:15
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The clock tower scene is great, but it does feel like a weaker retread of a similar scene from Castle of Cagliostro.
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Sep 27, 2018 22:20
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It weirdly feels like something from a Steven Spielberg movie to me. Maybe that's a weird comparison, I don't know. I know that was the same era as when Spielberg got really interested in animation and helped to get An American Tail and Who Framed Roger Rabbit? off the ground then went on to help make Animaniacs and Tiny Toon Adventures.
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Sep 27, 2018 22:50
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Samuel Clemens posted:The clock tower scene is great, but it does feel like a weaker retread of a similar scene from Castle of Cagliostro. Wahhhh a thing happened, nothing else like it can ever happen again or I’ll whine on my blog
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Sep 27, 2018 22:58
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Are you saying that the sequence in Great Mouse Detective wasn't influence by Castle of Cagliostro? I was always under the impression that it was universally considered an homage. There's also elements of Cagliostro that pop up in Atlantis, the Batman animated series, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, all of which I'm pretty sure have been acknowledged by the people who made them.
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Sep 27, 2018 23:48
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I’m saying attribution culture is stupid.
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Pick posted:Wahhhh a thing happened, nothing else like it can ever happen again or I’ll whine on my blog Now that I’m gone you’re the consistently worst poster in this thread  oh poo poo whoops
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Sep 28, 2018 01:21
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One thing I really love about the clock tower scene, visuals aside, is how tense it feels. There's very little dialogue, just music and the constant ticking and grinding of the gears. No more quips from Basil, no more hammy taunting from Ratigan, you know poo poo just got real. At some point in one of the previous threads I touched on the bear fight scene from Fox and the Hound which I also think is pretty much flawless, and they're pretty similar now that I think about it, being so effective at conveying the tension and terror of fighting for your life in few or no words. Good stuff. Good films. Dark Ages Disney my rear end.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:17
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The clock tower scene in Great Mouse Detective just shows how great Glen Keane is, because there was no real precedence for animating in a CG environment like that. The fact that it doesn’t look janky by today’s standards makes it doubly more impressive.
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I figured Moffat totally came up with the part about "only a true Haddock can find the treasure"; I thought it was a pretty good job turning a somewhat random discovery from the comics into a puzzle that worked with the story, since the guy seems to love his cryptic riddles.
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Netflix's Hilda is delightful. I would have lost my poo poo about this cartoon when I was a kid. Even as an adult I find myself grinning from ear to ear in every episode.
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ConfusedUs posted:Netflix's Hilda is delightful. I started watching the first episode after finishing Maniac because it was suggested, and I ended up having to stop because it's so cheerful and good that I want to keep it special and only meter it out when I'm down or sad. It's like Sarah and Duck but for kids about 10 years older. Full of drat charm.
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Queen Combat posted:It's like Sarah and Duck but for kids about 10 years older. Full of drat charm. Ahhh! My friend writes for Sarah & Duck! I have to confess I’ve never seen an episode though.
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I just got back from Smallfoot, in a matinee showing with me and like two other people with a kid (because it was a nice day outside and everyone apparently wants to take walks or play outside during those). And yeah, it was cute! I knew I would like the animation and character designs going in, due to the previews, but the set design and lighting are genuinely very nice, baking really good use of lighting and color to establish tone and mood. It's also a musical, which still surprises me when any movie not Disney does it, and the songs are all... OK? I guess? (One was a remix of Ice Ice Baby/Under pressure, which I found "Eh", and the one I liked the most is a rap song, presumably written by Common...) They didn't impress me, but they weren't bad, and stayed on message. Which was a good message, to be sure: don't fear the unknown, be open to communication- probably all of the things you surmised from the trailer. That's no surprise, but what is a surprise is just how dark they were willing to go- the invocation of dark humor to underline the potential dangers of the status quo, in the descriptions of Migo's family and what being the Gongringer entails over time, the harshness of the scene in which the Stonekeeper reveals the truth about the village and why they live there (probably my favorite scene in the whole movie, the cinematography is very good), and a fairly intense and final action beat that is played straight and sincere (beyond a pretty funny Pac Man gag). Sincerity is pretty much the watchword of this movie; it's earnest in a way that I haven't really seen in a lot of kid's movies, eschewing sarcasm and times for gags and scat humor* for plot and character development... which will probably cost in the box office, as gag a minute dance raves a la Trolls is "what the kiddies want", according to the reviewers who asserted that their own kids were bored when they took them. Wonder if that's why it got the dreaded PG rating... no, that was probably the aforementioned thematic elements. (But given that both Trolls and Wreck it Ralph, as well as every other animated movie I've seen, has a PG rating, the MPAA may have just gone ahead and retired the G rating.) Also, would you look at that: no dance party ending, just a cheesy group shot photograph one. All in all, liked it, would recommend, hope it does very well so more movies like it will be made. *Although the way they use that humor is my preferred method of doing so: second or two gags that are integrated subtly and not highlighted at all by anyone. And, Yeah! Thumbs Up! That's how you do it.
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I watched Road to El Dorado since my girlfriend has never seen it. What a flawed movie. You can tell the animators had fun animating Chel and Kevin Kline is a good voice actor for Tulio but neither Miguel or Tulio's animation is very specific. Its a weirdly paced movie full of forgettable songs and would probably be torn a new one for ham fisted cultural appropriation if it were made today. For some reason I always associated it with Emperor's New Groove since both were south-american comedy animated movies, but ENG is so much better.
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Sep 30, 2018 03:43
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Miguel and Tulio were animated by French-trained animators iirc and it has an effect on how they appear to move compared to most of the other cast.
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Sep 30, 2018 04:12
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Man what I absolutely love the animation on Tulio.
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Sep 30, 2018 05:03
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Oh, also I agree that it's not very good. I actually think Spirit holds up better, aside from having rather uninspired backgrounds.
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I've been kinda feeling that on backgrounds for a while. You have a few exceptions, but the main-main-MAINSTAY is realism. You can swap some very stylized characters between the backgrounds of different CG movies and they'll just be... completely interchangable. You can still find influence (Japanese flavor in BH6, minimalism in Incredibles, etc) but I kinda miss how far it was pushed in 2D. A Snow White tree was not a Sleeping Beauty tree was not a Hercules tree was not a ENG tree. It feels like by and large, a tree is a just tree nowadays.  Source: I am constantly reskinning assets from other projects that share nothing but a studio name between them. Sometimes less!
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Sep 30, 2018 07:59
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that's more the fault of the standardized CGI "look" being basically uniform between studios, there's not much experimentation being done on big budget animated movies to help them look unique probably the reason I'm most excited for Into the Spiderverse is the dramatically different artstyle it has, I can think of some tv shows and video games that have similar styles but not many AAA animated movies released in theatres
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It’s a shame Hotel Transylvania 2 has a horrible plot and message starring the worst hack in Hollywood peppered with the worst vices of animated films because otherwise the animation is some of the best I’ve ever seen
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Ccs posted:I watched Road to El Dorado since my girlfriend has never seen it. What a flawed movie. You can tell the animators had fun animating Chel and Kevin Kline is a good voice actor for Tulio but neither Miguel or Tulio's animation is very specific. Its a weirdly paced movie full of forgettable songs and would probably be torn a new one for ham fisted cultural appropriation if it were made today. For some reason I always associated it with Emperor's New Groove since both were south-american comedy animated movies, but ENG is so much better. I feel the same, though I watch El Dorado so infrequently that I always remember it through rose coloured glasses. And I watch ENG all the fuckin time so I guess that’s how I rate them..
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I remember enjoying Road to Eldorado but thinking it was pretty average at the same time. I think it was supposed to start an entire series of Bing Crosby/Bob Hope style animated adventure movies where Kevin Kline and Kenneth Branagh go on quests for gold and it's disappointing that there weren't more of them, because that could have been fun. One movie adaptation I would love to see is an adaptation of the Crimson Skies video games and I actually think animation, particularly that style of early 00s traditional 2D animation, would be a great medium for it. That would be a great project for Brad Bird, I think.
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Calaveron posted:It’s a shame Hotel Transylvania 2 has a horrible plot and message starring the worst hack in Hollywood peppered with the worst vices of animated films because otherwise the animation is some of the best I’ve ever seen That’s the problem with all the Hotel Transylvania movies. They aren’t particularly good movies (though I think the first isn’t bad aside from the end dance party), but drat are those guys doing poo poo with computer animation even Pixar isn’t doing.
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Macaluso posted:That’s the problem with all the Hotel Transylvania movies. They aren’t particularly good movies (though I think the first isn’t bad aside from the end dance party), but drat are those guys doing poo poo with computer animation even Pixar isn’t doing. I've re-watched HT just plain with the sound off.
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so on an animation discord I'm at an in-joke went too far and they did a reanimate of parts of a 13 ghosts of scooby doo episode. It's a little more over the place quality-wise than the Dover Boys one but it was still fun to work on (I did one of the frames in the "rotoscope" sequence, full credits for that sequence here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn1Nlok7QOI
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ye Gods, Scrappy Doo has nothing on Flim Flam for being a completely obnoxious character (not to mention the character's kind of a racist archetype). What annoyed me to no end about HT is they could've gone with a pretty good moral about not letting past tragedies shade your worldview, and that eventually you have to let your kids grow up... then they had to shoehorn that 'Zing' bullcrap so it comes off as 'don't gently caress with destiny'. Could we just do away with the concept of 'your true love is the first guy you locked eyes with'?
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I keep telling yas that romantic comedies and cartoon subplots have done way worse in warping young people's ideas of relationships than porn ever could.
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