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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Serious question- how does that work when literally anyone can put an alpha clone into KF?

Or is it more like opsec for capswarm stuff?

Its against the Karmafleet TOS to spy. Everyone who joins goonswarm signs an NDA and if they are caught spying Mittani sues them in small claims court.

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Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Serious question- how does that work when literally anyone can put an alpha clone into KF?

Or is it more like opsec for capswarm stuff?

I don't really know how counterintel poo poo works. Suffice it to say there is a marked difference from today and back in 2010, when every Tom, Dick, and Harry could put an alt into DEMZERON HUNTERS, get blue standings with the entire northern coalition (no dot), and awox for hours. Whatever is happening, it's working.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Serious question- how does that work when literally anyone can put an alpha clone into KF?

Or is it more like opsec for capswarm stuff?

joining comms gives them a bunch of logged info on you that can be used if you're later put in a position of trust

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Rutibex posted:

Its against the Karmafleet TOS to spy. Everyone who joins goonswarm signs an NDA and if they are caught spying Mittani sues them in small claims court.

There are no small claims in Space Court.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Rutibex posted:

Its against the Karmafleet TOS to spy. Everyone who joins goonswarm signs an NDA and if they are caught spying Mittani sues them in small claims court.

RMTing done right.

Cease to Hope posted:

joining comms gives them a bunch of logged info on you that can be used if you're later put in a position of trust

God, the ~internet detectivery~ in the days of SOLO DRAKBAN was the stuff of legend.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Sep 30, 2018

MaxPowers
Dec 29, 2004

Scooter_McCabe posted:

There are no small claims in Space Court.

I never got my time in space court and it upsets me how my good name will never be cleared since the 2017 destruction of the space town hall.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

I don't really know how counterintel poo poo works. Suffice it to say there is a marked difference from today and back in 2010, when every Tom, Dick, and Harry could put an alt into DEMZERON HUNTERS, get blue standings with the entire northern coalition (no dot), and awox for hours. Whatever is happening, it's working.

maybe those inclined to spy could give af about this game just sayin

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

Cease to Hope posted:

joining comms gives them a bunch of logged info on you that can be used if you're later put in a position of trust

That would be it. I keep forgetting IP addresses.

You could make a fresh alpha clone but your IP would give you away.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
the trick is that everyone is pveing in delve and exporting the isk to their non funperium characters, and no one wants to risk breaking their income stream for awoxes

Zazz Razzamatazz
Apr 19, 2016

by sebmojo

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

the trick is that everyone is pveing in delve and exporting the isk to their non funperium characters, and no one wants to risk breaking their income stream for awoxes

Well it looks like the Geico gecko was right after all- greed is good...

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

the trick is that everyone is pveing in delve and exporting the isk to their non funperium characters, and no one wants to risk breaking their income stream for awoxes

i sincerely hope this is true

we will gladly take all the delicious tax income that should instead be going to hostiles

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



welp looks like i'm resubbing next week, time to move my stuff around and figure out what has changed since i last played in 2014

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

orange juche posted:

Any day now the GOON SUPERS STILL TRAPPED IN DO6H will log in

I think that might be where my titan is :toxx:

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


MaxPowers posted:

I never got my time in space court and it upsets me how my good name will never be cleared since the 2017 destruction of the space town hall.

Kinetica
Aug 16, 2011
The Honorable ScooterMcCabe is the judge of my heart

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
I got plans for another Space Court, just looking for the right mark, time and then do it live on the Imperium Stream so everyone can enjoy the Saturday Night Live version of EVE.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010


I checked in with a friend in an ally corp and he says Mittens ain't banned :colbert:

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Beach Bum posted:



I checked in with a friend in an ally corp and he says Mittens ain't banned :colbert:

:ssh:

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
Thinking about getting back into EVE and maybe rejoining Goonfleet or The Imperium or what the gently caress ever we're called now. I'm looking over my character - Planetary Interaction is garbage now, even if you're in nullsec, right? I shouldn't regret sucking the SP for PI skills out and applying them to literally anything else?

working mom
Jul 8, 2015

Epsilon Plus posted:

Thinking about getting back into EVE and maybe rejoining Goonfleet or The Imperium or what the gently caress ever we're called now. I'm looking over my character - Planetary Interaction is garbage now, even if you're in nullsec, right? I shouldn't regret sucking the SP for PI skills out and applying them to literally anything else?

It can still make good money for the effort involved once its setup, though if you cbf doing it its not a terrible idea to just succ it out

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

space emperor of our hearts

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006

Beach Bum posted:



I checked in with a friend in an ally corp and he says Mittens ain't banned :colbert:
Nothing gets past you, does it?

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Epsilon Plus posted:

Thinking about getting back into EVE and maybe rejoining Goonfleet or The Imperium or what the gently caress ever we're called now. I'm looking over my character - Planetary Interaction is garbage now, even if you're in nullsec, right? I shouldn't regret sucking the SP for PI skills out and applying them to literally anything else?

PI doesn't scale very well is the biggest issue. The money is OK, particularly for something you only have to think about once every week or two (or much more often, if you're super in to lovely space farmville for some reason) and with a really small initial investment, but while it's not much harder to run 2 or 3 or 5 rorquals than it is to run 1, the effort involved in PI increases p much linearly with the number of characters you have doing it.

So yeah if you aren't going to do it there is no reason to keep that SP in it. You definitely aren't missing out on anything amazing. That said it might be worth training on a cyno alt or skillgoo farming account if you have one, since you have to be omega subbed for those things anyway you might as well do some fairly passive ISK generation with it.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

RMTing done right.


God, the ~internet detectivery~ in the days of SOLO DRAKBAN was the stuff of legend.

Digi unironically telling people about his hanzo steel.txt

I will never log back in because I do not want to collect all my poo poo from across Deklein and Delve and then wait 4 weeks to jump my carrier 2 systems over because jump fatigue

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Luigi Thirty posted:

Digi unironically telling people about his hanzo steel.txt

I will never log back in because I do not want to collect all my poo poo from across Deklein and Delve and then wait 4 weeks to jump my carrier 2 systems over because jump fatigue

well good news, we live in delve and all your poo poo in deklein is being delivered to lowsec on your behalf because of the new asset safety

one of us one of us

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Also jump fatigue maxes out at a not stupid limit now.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

well good news, we live in delve and all your poo poo in deklein is being delivered to lowsec on your behalf because of the new asset safety

one of us one of us

it honestly would have been funny if GotG tore down all their faction forts except VFK/YA0/JU-, just as a parting spite-shot

Bobcats
Aug 5, 2004
Oh
oh my god I almost reinstalled and it’s been like 11 years

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
I resubscribed and killed my are self to Delve, but no one I remember from 4 years ago is around. If you knew me awhile ago hi again but I won't be able to figure out your space name from your SA name*. What happened to TopGoon?

Kind Regards,

Colonel Thaddeus J. Rhombus IIi

Yiffmaster General
Newbie of the Month
Recruiter
Recruiting Officer
Space Rentals
Core Capacitor (Basic) Holder

*ChickenWing I remember you you don't have to tell me that you're ChickenWing

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

uwaeve posted:

What happened to TopGoon?

Sothrasil happened to TopGoon. It wasn't pretty. (It actually wasn't much of anything, he said "I HAVE A NEW DIRECTION FOR THIS SQUAD", booted the old S-Ls, and then promptly hosed back off to mainfleet. I think some stuff happened after that but I'd unsubbed since then)


most of the goodposters are also long gone, at least last I checked. HDef is a pale shadow of its former self

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


ChickenWing posted:

Sothrasil happened to TopGoon. It wasn't pretty. (It actually wasn't much of anything, he said "I HAVE A NEW DIRECTION FOR THIS SQUAD", booted the old S-Ls, and then promptly hosed back off to mainfleet. I think some stuff happened after that but I'd unsubbed since then)


most of the goodposters are also long gone, at least last I checked. HDef is a pale shadow of its former self

Pretty much this. It was a bit more dragged out than that but the short version is that the people who were active and making stuff happen got sick of the lowest-common-denominator direction of things. Basically "Newbie Friendly" and "Idiot Friendly" got conflated and the "chill out low effort kill some guys" squad became the "drooling idiots crowing about pod killmails and getting fleetmates killed" squad. The people who had been making things happen went off to Reavers or Blackops.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

CommonShore posted:

Pretty much this. It was a bit more dragged out than that but the short version is that the people who were active and making stuff happen got sick of the lowest-common-denominator direction of things. Basically "Newbie Friendly" and "Idiot Friendly" got conflated and the "chill out low effort kill some guys" squad became the "drooling idiots crowing about pod killmails and getting fleetmates killed" squad. The people who had been making things happen went off to Reavers or Blackops.

Wait did that happen again?

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


ChickenWing posted:

Wait did that happen again?

Well I'm thinking of the "Sothrasil and Drake Omega are co-running Top Goon as we harass Providence" era, which was probably... 2013? There was never again a high-level freakout like that time we were down in Delve and that Iguana incursions dude just let his bowels loose because someone popped a pod which turned out to have like 80 mil in implants in it. This was more of a steady whine of worthlessness and arguing with the FCs for the right to do stupid poo poo. A typical conversation would be like

Don Gately: Stay cloaked on a perch. We're just going to take a 15 minute break while their defense fleet freaks out. Anything you see here will be bait anyway. Decloaking will just encourage them to stay around.
[Random Idiot #1 gets tackled and killed after taking bait, losing a 15 million isk stiletto]
Random Idiot #1: WHY DIDN'T YOU SAVE ME?
Don Gately: Shut up, idiot.
....... [an hour passes]
Sothrasil: Don, Random Idiot #1 says you were mean to him!

Real Nito
Apr 3, 2010

ChickenWing posted:

Wait did that happen again?

What was, shall be. What shall be, was.

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Spodbless.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Not sure if there's some way the corp can profit (like an affiliate link through CCP), but GMG just put up a ~yuge~ EVE sale today - not sure how many PLEX is required to resub an account, though (I made sure to trim anything that looked like a referral ID out of both links): https://www.greenmangaming.com/titles/eve-online-titles/

EDIT: 500 for 30 days. So this seems to be the best deal since it'd give you two months plus multi-character training for ~$22: https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/eve-online-star-pack-pc/

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Oct 1, 2018

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Not sure if there's some way the corp can profit (like an affiliate link through CCP), but GMG just put up a ~yuge~ EVE sale today - not sure how many PLEX is required to resub an account, though (I made sure to trim anything that looked like a referral ID out of both links): https://www.greenmangaming.com/titles/eve-online-titles/

EDIT: 500 for 30 days. So this seems to be the best deal since it'd give you two months plus multi-character training for ~$22: https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/eve-online-star-pack-pc/

Hopefully the price of PLEX will decrease on the market?

RazNation
Aug 5, 2015

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

unfortunately the things you do to make money in eve have inconvenient labels like "human rights violation" and "objectively evil" and "rent seeking" IRL

You must know my ex-wife then.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

well good news, we live in delve and all your poo poo in deklein is being delivered to lowsec on your behalf because of the new asset safety

one of us one of us

oh boy, a lowsec carrier

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Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO
I'm just coming back to EVE since we were last living in Deklein, and I'm glad we moved back to Delve since I have ships circa 2010 still there :v:

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