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It's really hard to not go off on wild tangents writing this up about how loving stupid the interview process is for this garbage. It's awful and everybody hates it on both sides of the table. But fit interviews are where a lot of people get snagged because they don't know that's what is going on behind the scenes, don't know that they're being evaluated, and it's 90% soft skills.
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Oct 4, 2018 19:44
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Thanks for that
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Oct 4, 2018 19:59
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The "sir this is a (...)" fingers are itching, but my word, I'm gonna read the gently caress out of that post tomorrow morning
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Oct 4, 2018 19:59
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I hate writing cover letters but doing so is part of the reason I have my job right now. Out of the five candidates three didn't really meet the requirements (Or write cover letters), and the other guy who did didn't give a good answer about self teaching. I wouldn't pay to fly to an interview out of my own pocket. I got burned a couple of years ago by a company that made me travel to the interview. 5 hour drive. They have kind of a lovely reputation for grabbing recent grads, and paying them poo poo until they have enough experience to go elsewhere. Plus it's a family owned company so there's no room for advancement at all. I was willing to put up with that for a couple months to get my required internship done though. Didn't get the job for whatever reason. If they called me up right now and offered me a job I'd probably tell them to go gently caress themselves, advice against burning bridges be damned.
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Oct 4, 2018 20:33
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For negotiations, Getting To Yes or Difficult Conversation are good books. Alternatively take a negotiations class if one is offered anywhere within 100 miles.
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Oct 4, 2018 20:49
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"Check the syllabus." Jesus Christ if I never hear that phrase again as long as I live I can die happy. And holy poo poo what is with these people and APA formatting.
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Oct 4, 2018 21:32
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fuckkkk APA and its nuisances All I’m really familiar with after HS, not sure if the others are better/worse.
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Oct 4, 2018 21:39
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MLA can gently caress itself to death
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Oct 4, 2018 21:40
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The bulk of the scientific/medical industry uses APA. I went through undergrad/grad using ASA, the American Sociological Association format. It's like the twin brother of APA that got kicked in the head by a mule at an early age and we don't compare the two anymore.
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Oct 4, 2018 21:42
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It has taken me over half this semester to finally get over being mad that I have to use APA (MSW-program) instead of the best system Chicago (History undergrad)
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Oct 4, 2018 22:02
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Good news is that since APA is industry standard for a lot of things, there's citation programs and plugins galore. There's EndNote, Zotero, etc.
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Oct 4, 2018 22:10
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Citation machine does all my APA stuff when needed. Most articles I read come from journals so the repository just spits out the citation with the text for easy copying.
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Oct 4, 2018 22:17
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Microsoft word has APA template and reference/bibliography which keeps all your citations which is nice. gently caress its table of contents though. I could never get that to work.
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Oct 4, 2018 22:34
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Does your school not have an online database where you can search for a paper or article or whatever and at the end it has the citation for every format?
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In between thisEBB posted:Citation machine does all my APA stuff when needed. Most articles I read come from journals so the repository just spits out the citation with the text for easy copying. And this Cojawfee posted:Does your school not have an online database where you can search for a paper or article or whatever and at the end it has the citation for every format? It's hard to feel any sympathy. Mendeley, Zotero, school library search and wherever I'm pulling papers from all give me proper citations. It's a literal copy and past except for Mendeley and Zotero and those are just push a button. There's not really any reason to gently caress this up or not do it.
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Oct 5, 2018 00:57
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google scholar also has a cite button
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:fuckkkk APA and its nuisances Google Scholar!!!!!!! Also Vas that was awesome and mostly representative of my Engineering meandering.
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Oct 5, 2018 01:03
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Why does the online application kick out people who have phds? ignore me if this is answered later. It’s a long post!
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Oct 5, 2018 01:25
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boop the snoot posted:Why does the online application kick out people who have phds? They probably don't want over qualified people that they would have to pay too much because of their PhD.
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Oct 5, 2018 01:30
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Vasudus posted:Ok gents, I've been doing a lot of interviews lately... I thought all this was common sense
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Oct 5, 2018 01:46
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Yeah it's a retention ~human capital~ thing. The example given was for a junior position, something which I should have specified. So we were looking for someone who was either going to graduate within a semester (meaning we can do all employment related inprocessing and get the clearance done before they start work), had just graduated, or had a year or two worth of experience at most. People that are wildly overqualified for positions tend to be bad fits for a number of reasons. A lot of times they just need something to keep a roof over their head...while they wait for the next big thing. Which isn't what you want, unless you have a place for them to land. In which case you should just open a requisition for that skill level. But senior, experienced people in junior roles tend to not be good team players, or are resistant to tasks because they view the work as beneath them. Which is true, it is. Woof Blitzer posted:I thought all this was common sense holy  people are loving awful at interviewing on a whole my dude
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Oct 5, 2018 01:51
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I made the decision to not hire someone today because she admitted to me that her fiance will be paroled next year after a 15 plus year sentence for burgalary and therefore wouldn't be allowed to keep a firearm at home. Did I overreact? I work in Cash Logistics.
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Oct 5, 2018 02:24
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Well, either that reason or for the reason that she was dumb enough to just drop that in an interview, holy poo poo.
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Oct 5, 2018 03:10
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lol "Yeah, I'm about to marry a burglar. What's the code to the safe again?"
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So she either waited for someone who was in prison for a good while, or got engaged to someone she met who happened to be in prison. I'd say you made the right choice.
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Oct 5, 2018 05:41
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Heres a question regarding resumes: which has more weight? Experience or degree? Lets say you had two resumes and 1 had the education and the other had the experience. Which wins?
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Soulex posted:Heres a question regarding resumes: which has more weight? Experience or degree? Lets say you had two resumes and 1 had the education and the other had the experience. Which wins? I legitimately keep multiple versions of my resume around for this and choose based on what I know about the company. Not necessarily for experience/education stuff but for federal/jobs which require a clearance I go more heavy handed on the military experience, but for engineering jobs I keep the verbage much more terse and go heavier on my industry experience. Also, a particular point id like to agree with Vas about is taking interviews as practice even if you aren't 100% job searching. Much more comfortable with the boiler plate HR questions, and you have a much better feel if an interview is going well or not. SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 11:37
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Experience or degree depends on a lot of different factors, and I can reasonably only touch on a few of them. If the company uses any of the popular ~talent management~ software that's out there, they can straight up set criteria for automatic rejection and your resume will never see a human eye if you don't check off the right boxes. If you can get the resume in front of someone somehow, then you have a little more wiggle room. But if they're a large company with an education policy, you still might be SOL. Unfortunately I can only personally speak for my specific industry, the DoD medical industry: almost everyone has at least one masters degree. Juniors hired with a bachelors will find themselves hitting a ceiling around year 3-4ish as they try and move out of junior roles, and probably a good...third? or so of our juniors right now on my larger ~25 person admin team are in grad school while working. But we're the exception, not the norm.
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Can't I just do the rest of this IPC Standards class in one shot please?
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Are there any recommendations for gre prep courses? Either online or through or in person through kaplan?
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I bought the Kaplan books. They were perfect for me because they have example of good, mediocre, and bad writing, as well as several difficulty levels for banks of questions. If drilling material or doing sample exams is your thing it really helps.
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Depends on what you need probably. I was out of school 10 years and took an online course over a month and it was pretty good. Then just drilled problems in books, mostly math cause that was my weak point. I didn't practice writing and that was definitely a mistake though. Also practice the test a few times under realistic conditions, I ran out of time on the math section and left questions unanswered. You may also want to practice reading at a high level depending on what you want to study. Business has a huge amount of reading and so does engineering if you start doing research and getting used to it helps. It's really not a big deal as long as you create a schedule and stick to it and use an option that you are comfortable with.
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I took the GRE today with about four hours of actual prep and while I did score the minimum I needed for the program I'm trying to get into, I regret not dedicating more time. I too ran out of time on the math sections and just selected random options on about five questions. The little studying I did was with the official ETS guide from Amazon and a good chunk of the quantitative reasoning questions on the tests looked awfully similar to questions I saw in the book. I feel pretty confident saying that if I gave myself time to completely review just that book I could have scored around 160 in each.
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Throwing out ideas in my engineering entrepreneurship group I said a flushable tampon cause I hate pulling apart macerator pumps. Unfortunately the women in the group are all about changing tampons and their menstrual experience so I've spent most of the quarter focused on this. Even worse, the ideas are solid and the market is huge so I can't find a way out. I think every female I've talked to has had the same "What the gently caress" moment followed by intense interest. Its going to be an interesting and hosed up year.
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lightpole posted:Throwing out ideas in my engineering entrepreneurship group I said a flushable tampon cause I hate pulling apart macerator pumps. Unfortunately the women in the group are all about changing tampons and their menstrual experience so I've spent most of the quarter focused on this. Even worse, the ideas are solid and the market is huge so I can't find a way out. I think every female I've talked to has had the same "What the gently caress" moment followed by intense interest. You're now a market disruptor. Welcome to the Valley
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M_Gargantua posted:You're now a market disruptor. Welcome to the Valley Found out our main idea, supported by market research, a 100% organic cotton tampon, was already done by Lola. They've managed $35 mil in funding in the 3 years since conception with 100% organic cotton products, listed ingredients and direct to consumer with options. Not sure if it's worth moving forward that way or focusing on menstrual cramps or somewhere else such as materials since they are not very environmentally friendly. 37m women get moderate to severe cramps that can be debilitating. One thing that came up was herbal tampons to stop that. There's only one company that does anything like that with a THC/CBD suppository at $50/4. An actual tampon would require FDA approval but if we got that we would be printing money and providing a benefit to society.
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lightpole posted:Throwing out ideas in my engineering entrepreneurship group I said a flushable tampon cause I hate pulling apart macerator pumps. Unfortunately the women in the group are all about changing tampons and their menstrual experience so I've spent most of the quarter focused on this. Even worse, the ideas are solid and the market is huge so I can't find a way out. I think every female I've talked to has had the same "What the gently caress" moment followed by intense interest. lightpole posted:Found out our main idea, supported by market research, a 100% organic cotton tampon, was already done by Lola. They've managed $35 mil in funding in the 3 years since conception with 100% organic cotton products, listed ingredients and direct to consumer with options. Not sure if it's worth moving forward that way or focusing on menstrual cramps or somewhere else such as materials since they are not very environmentally friendly. There's not going to be any great ideas on menstrual experiences that are not already done. The big companies that make these products try to make sure word doesn't get out about anything that will take away their business. Here's a once popular thread on reusable cups (it seems to have died in 2016 and I still had it bookmarked): https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3365134 The ultimate product. No physical waste, made of silicone, no chemicals, a lot of women say it reduces their cramps (I can attest to that), no risk of Toxic Shock Syndrome, and just 1 single cup definitely has the ability to last more than 1 year. It will set a woman back $33 at target. That's it. But most women have never heard of it. Because they won't be spending their monthly dues on tampons/pads. Mention cups to them and see if they've ever heard about them. The fact that you will know more about them than they do should be enough to steer them into a different direction, since there's really not much you can come up with/improve upon in the menstrual world better than reusable cups.
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Sarah posted:There's not going to be any great ideas on menstrual experiences that are not already done. The big companies that make these products try to make sure word doesn't get out about anything that will take away their business. A decent amount of our survey consisted of sorority girls due to time constraints and they had heard of them. Tampons were chosen due to the convenience as respondents wanted an effective product that they didn't have to worry about in public. We haven't explored this as over 80% of the respondents preferred tampons. There is a surprising amount of innovation right now, considering there hasn't been a lot of change in 85 years or so. Lola is 3 years old and started by 2 women and there are a cluster of companies moving in that direction since there's money there. Plus products like Tampax Pearl, which aside from the tampon comes in a wrapper that is quiet to take off and doesnt "sound like I'm opening a bag of chips" in the restroom. We also realized that women dont talk about their menstrual cycle among themselves, and thus the interest, and were looking for opportunities to bring education into it or figure out a way to provide products for homeless women or third world countries. Just surprised it took us a week to pull out things that P&G has been ignoring for years and women are screaming for. Even if we can't make headway with tampons, the market for female health monitoring apps is thin and there are plenty of other opportunities now that we've actually started looking. Edit: Not ignoring your idea but it was already hard enough to be taken seriously when everyone else had some fancy app or bionic arm they dont have the time or resources to ever complete, let alone in 10 weeks. We can definitely have a prototype and might be able to even sell it before we graduate. lightpole fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Oct 13, 2018 |
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I will never understand women’s bathroom habits. It’s baffling. Everyone knows what’s going on in there. We pretend like nothing is happening. Why is it so embarrassing opening up a tampon wrapper? Everyone goes through the same thing. I took a microbiology class at OSU in a giant auditorium. There were over 200 students. There was one bathroom with 3 stalls. There was a poopoff going on. Young girls are embarrassed to poop in public so they sit down and hold it until everyone is gone. There was a line of 10+ women doing the pee dance outside, every minute more joined and more frustration. I opened the door and yelled in “poo poo or get out there’s a lot of us out here about to piss ourselves”. No one would budge. Eventually everyone left the line to go up to the 3rd floor (no women’s bathrooms on the 2nd). In hindsight I made it worse that day because there was definitely no way those 3 were going to show their face as the poop holders, but maybe in the future when they got older they realized everyone poops and if you have to poop in public you woman up and do it. Anyway, good luck with your project! Hope you can knock it out.
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