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lol have they just invented the untermenschen approach to dehumanisation and used computer game terminology for it jesus
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 11:42 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 02:19 |
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V. Illych L. posted:lol have they just invented the untermenschen approach to dehumanisation and used computer game terminology for it yeah Bethesda is terrible for any number of reasons
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 11:43 |
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13th KRRC War Diary, 8th October 1918 posted:Up to ZERO the night was quiet; nothing abnormal was to be seen or heard; only the usual spasmodic shelling, intermittent M.G. fire and frequent Very Lights. As our own artillery were shelling the BEAUREVOIR LINE and wire no patrols were carried out. 13th KRRC War Diary, 9th October 1918 posted:At 0715 hours the Transport joined the Battalion in the valley West of HURTEBISE FARM. Lewis guns were loaded on limbers and at 0820 hours the Battalion marched off and reached its allotted position near Chateau BRISEAUX at 0855 hours. Here information was received that the Division's first objective had been taken and at a conference at Brigade Headquarters verbal orders were issued to continue the advance at 1100 hours the 13th Battn K.R.R.C. leading.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 13:05 |
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There's the bit of me that's always disappointed that these don't come with detailed casualty reports. quote:D Company, however rose to the occasion and acted without delay, defiling quickly through the gaps in the wire and deploying immediately on the other side. The enemy machine gunners however offered a stubborn resistance and kept their guns going until skilfully outflanked and entirely surrounded Attacking through nearly intact wire and into hardened MG nests is no joke, and I wonder how many lads made it
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 13:24 |
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V. Illych L. posted:lol have they just invented the untermenschen approach to dehumanisation and used computer game terminology for it
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 14:32 |
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HEY GUNS posted:their whole schtick is "the ______ but with computer game terminology for it" They're extremely uncool, all of them.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 14:53 |
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It's like Great Man Theory applied to daily life instead of history?
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 14:59 |
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P-zombies for moronic racists, that’s just great. It’s straight up “anyone who doesn’t agree with you isn’t a person” which is way worse than the sheeple thing. That at least presents as something people can “wake up” from. This NPC thing precludes even that.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 16:30 |
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Comrade Gorbash posted:P-zombies for moronic racists, that’s just great. I know. You cant even debate with those people, no matter how many times you say. "They say the sword of wind is in Karoly Forest...but that's just a legend, right?"
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 16:43 |
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“Rhodesia was perfect country”
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 17:00 |
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Wait, poo poo, no, it's the modern version of those peasants from A World Lit Only By Fire.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 17:12 |
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A modern day person valued avocado over shelter and other goods and services. Their crazed need to get avocado even left them too destitute to afford any other sides than simple toast.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 17:34 |
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Rockopolis posted:Wait, poo poo, no, it's the modern version of those peasants from A World Lit Only By Fire. Okay, so... I've never read the book. I have a deep and abiding hatred of William Manchester ever since I read Goodbye Darkness, an utterly awful book. It was bad, bad, bad. No, really. It's supposed to be a memoir about his time in the USMC in WWII. The problem is that it quickly becomes abundantly clear that he simply can't distinguish between his "kid, let me tell you 'bout how I killed a [slur for Japanese]" fantasies and reality. For example, he writes about numerous battles in terms of "we." "We landed on Guadalcanal," etc. If I was being generous I'd say he was referring to the whole USMC as "we," but no, he's talks at length in terms of "we" about battles that went down when he wasn't even in boot camp. "We" hell, you're just telling sea stories. Then follow this up with page after page of bloviating bullshit about what a tremendous burden it is to have such a large penis... It's one of the few books that I've actually thrown away rather than donate or give away. Yes, it was that bad. So, for pure schadenfreude, what's the deal with World Lit Only By Fire? If this is a topic that has already played out, ignore this post, please.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 17:34 |
You know a book is bad when we throw it away.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 17:43 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:You know a book is bad when we throw it away. Yeah. I'm a book hoarder, and this didn't even make the "keep it in a bin out in the garage" or "give it away/donate it somewhere" cut.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 17:56 |
Only book I've ever tossed was a really smug obviously pumped out during the Brexit hype smug POS explaining why beating the Napoleonic French clearly made my country some sort of 19th century supermen and everything is wrong because. What a piece of poo poo. Even being sold for nothing was too good. Waste of paper.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 18:11 |
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Cessna posted:So, for pure schadenfreude, what's the deal with World Lit Only By Fire? The individual problems with the book are probably too many to count, but briefly, there was old narrative of the Middle Ages which depicts it as philosophically a d technologically stagnant. Rome existed, which was a beacon of civilization, so goes the narrative, and then the barbarians came and destroyed it, and Europe slipped into fanaticism, cruelty and ignorance, where the Catholic Church brutally suppressed imagination and education, the kings and knights brutally oppressed the peasants, who lived in squalor, and stuff was just rotten. Then the Rennaisance came, everyone rediscovered art and learning, Protestants showed up, and people realized they didnt have to listen to the church, and everything was great (disclaimer....may not apply to Spain which, probably because of the Jesuits and the Inquisition, stayed in the middle ages until I dont know...20th century?) So anyway, that's the old story. It is largely, now, discredited by the majority of historians. Over the past 50-60 years, historians have looked at the way technology did change over the course of the medieval period, at the way medieval philosophers interacted with each other and the way philosophical ideas played out. It looked at Western European contacts with the Greek and Islamic world, and the way culture, technology, and goods traveled. It looked at the relationship between peasants and the nobility, and realized it was more based on contracts and consent than was realized. And historians reevaluated ancient Rome and the Rennaisance, and realized they weren't the heights of tolerance older historians thought. Manchester's book maybe wouldn't have been so bad if it were written in 1900. But it was written in 1993. Manchester used pretty much no modern sources. He included anecdotes without either verifying their authenticity or trying to understand them in any context beyond, "Hey, look how dumb people used to be", and in general, just wrote a pretty useless book.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 18:29 |
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JcDent posted:Attacking through nearly intact wire and into hardened MG nests is no joke, and I wonder how many lads made it They're not being pulled out and there were enough of them made it through to continue fighting afterwards, so I think there's room to be optimistic on that score.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 18:57 |
Cessna posted:Okay, so... Among other things, it claims that: 1. Peasants had no sense of time, as the churches were the only ones who held calendars or clocks and no other method of timekeeping existed. Peasants would only have a vague sense of seasons and aging to know how long ago anything had been. 2. Peasants never left their home village and would become hopelessly lost if they traveled more than a mile or two away. 3. Sometimes harvests would be so poor that peasants would engage in cannibalism and/or have to sell 100% of their possessions and live naked in an empty hut shivering on a dirt floor until they could afford a sack.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 19:24 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:Only book I've ever tossed was a really smug obviously pumped out during the Brexit hype smug POS explaining why beating the Napoleonic French clearly made my country some sort of 19th century supermen and everything is wrong because. Rolling papers?
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 19:35 |
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Comrade Gorbash posted:P-zombies for moronic racists, that�s just great. My generation's Nazis are a bunch of pasty 4chan dweebs and our Nazi propaganda is just lovely internet memes. Fantastic. Not only do millenials inherit a awful job market, impossible real estate market, and almost no economic prospects, but we also get lame Nazis.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 19:38 |
Milo and POTUS posted:Rolling papers? Not sure if they'd be safe to smoke, these terribad books are pumped out to chain book shops and written by Tory/Conservative talking heads of the UK's media. I imagine the cheap ink would give you cancer to all kinds of exposure.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 19:49 |
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chitoryu12 posted:
It is kind of fitting that a book called "A World Lit Only By Fire" forgets that the sun exists. There's actually a pretty interesting collection of proofs of age in medieval England here: http://edwardthesecond.blogspot.com/2018/03/proofs-of-age-i-know-how-old-you-are.html?m=1 The idea behind proofs of age is, let's say you're an orphan who has inherited land. The Crown holds the land for you until you come of age, which is 14 for women, 21 for men. One of the ways you can prove you've reached that age is to find people willing to say you're that age. Here are some sxamples. quote:William Dawson, one of the jurors, remembered the date because he "was in Pontefract on the day that Edward was born, and there saw a man unknown to him, who had been arrested for casting the evil eye on the horse of his neighbour, John de Hirn, and he then heard that Anne Hastings had been delivered of a male child, whom he afterwards heard called Edward." quote:Juror Ralph Oudeby remembered the date because he saw "William, late Lord Ros, John’s godfather with a huge stomach, raise him from the font at baptism." quote:Richard Pinneys says that he was at Winchester with Miles's father and led three greyhounds, and the greyhounds strangled three swans of the abbess of Romsey, whereupon the abbess purchased the king's writ of trespass and recovered 100 shillings therefor at the time of Miles's birth
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 19:55 |
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 20:29 |
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World Lit sounds dire. I'm glad I avoided it; there are so many books and so little time as it is.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 20:30 |
I don't read all of them but drat that's nice showing the little personal details even if it is all anecdotal memoirs of the Canadian soldier in WW2. Thanks for posting them.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 20:50 |
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Does that idea of the dark ages play into modern nationalism? A blank period so people can form their own narratives of crawling out from the void fully formed without having to parse through all the steps that made them what they are now? And then if they really want to make some kind of prestigious history for themselves, they can fill that blank period with any garbage they want.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 20:53 |
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It sure as poo poo played into 19th century nationalism, every bloody empire claims its the resurrection of Rome after the nasty bits of the past - we are the true bringers of culture due to our historic links to rome/charlemagne/HRE/Greece/Rum/whatever bit of history you choose to not have been “dark”
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 21:36 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:Only book I've ever tossed was a really smug obviously pumped out during the Brexit hype smug POS explaining why beating the Napoleonic French clearly made my country some sort of 19th century supermen I didn't realise I lived in Russia
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 21:46 |
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JcDent posted:There's the bit of me that's always disappointed that these don't come with detailed casualty reports. There's a bit in Vimy (I have no idea if this is a good book) where a guy is advancing and figures out there's a machine gun ahead because he sees a 150ish yard cone of bodies. It sounds absolutely dreadful.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 21:55 |
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lenoon posted:It sure as poo poo played into 19th century nationalism, every bloody empire claims its the resurrection of Rome after the nasty bits of the past - we are the true bringers of culture due to our historic links to rome/charlemagne/HRE/Greece/Rum/whatever bit of history you choose to not have been �dark� Which is ridiculous, since obviously Finland is the true heir to the Roman Empire.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 22:22 |
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https://i.imgur.com/Z80njup.gifv B-29 Tail Gunner POV
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 22:25 |
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Trin Tragula posted:They're not being pulled out and there were enough of them made it through to continue fighting afterwards, so I think there's room to be optimistic on that score. Casualties for that attack would be ~70 (working from the month's end numbers and (spoilers) another attack later this month where there are some numbers mentioned). Hopefully I'll get the chance to show a bit more detail of what happens to a casualty as well. Total numbers for the Battalion are holding up well; 900 at the start of the month. They're managing to get plenty of replacements. Other battalions being down to 600-700 at this point is not unusual.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 22:48 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:https://i.imgur.com/Z80njup.gifv That rules. The B-29's gun turret system is loving crazy. Not only are a whole bunch of turrets linked to one gun station and controlled by a single gunner, the analog gunnery computer automatically compensated for things like distance, relative velocity between bomber and target, and even air density. I can't fathom how any fighter pilot would willingly fly into that. As if that wasn't enough, it could outrun most contemporary fighters at high altitudes - Making it practically impossible to intercept.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 22:56 |
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Geisladisk posted:That rules. The B-29 was I think the second most expensive WW2 project that the US armed forces engaged in. We even had the B-32 on deck in case the B-29 failed(and it really didn't look good for the 29 for quite a while).
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 23:02 |
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Panzeh posted:The B-29 was I think the second most expensive WW2 project that the US armed forces engaged in. Most. It was considerably more expensive than the Manhattan Project. I think the most expensive WW2 project for anyone, by far, was the Atlantic Wall.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 23:15 |
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Phanatic posted:Most. It was considerably more expensive than the Manhattan Project. False! They weren't billable hours and the workers knew it.
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 23:19 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:The British tested poison gas anti-tank weapons extensively, they turned out to be quite effective, but never deployed. Go on...
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 23:35 |
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Tanks aren't airtight so if you drop a bunch of gas in their general area the crews all choke to death, I'd assume
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# ? Oct 9, 2018 23:58 |
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Crazycryodude posted:Tanks aren't airtight so if you drop a bunch of gas in their general area the crews all choke to death, I'd assume And trying to put on a gas mask in the cramped confines of a tank is a nightmare.
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