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Trabisnikof posted:I think we're talking past each other. I'm not saying the harms are to Warren or her family, yeah they're just your usual white family who want to feel cool. I guess the point is that whichever way you slice it, claiming or denying Native heritage through blood quantum is racist - and all the liberals who are trying to defend Warren either don't know enough about the issue to understand why it's bad or cynically don't care.
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A Handed Missus posted:lol that Diamond Joe had to be invented because all the real Biden does is deliver preachy speeches and get extremely close with women and girls of all ages Aren't there tons of really awkward photos that can be thrown into the public sphere now?
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Lecherous biden is a NOTHINGBURGER
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Brony Car posted:Aren't there tons of really awkward photos that can be thrown into the public sphere now? Someone post the gif, please
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I guess the point is that whichever way you slice it, claiming or denying Native heritage through blood quantum is racist - and all the liberals who are trying to defend Warren either don't know enough about the issue to understand why it's bad or cynically don't care. yes exactly that's good and succinct way to put it
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Oh Snapple! posted:Someone post the gif, please which?  
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Prester Jane posted:I'm really curious on a demographic/age breakdown on people here who are arguing Warren hosed up vs. this was a smart move. I was around Kerry could have gone out and ran on his actual Vietnam record where he was violently saving his brothers in arms, then came home and protested an illegal war which featured countless crimes against humanity. and instead Kerry smashed the decorum button like a loving tool.
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 Imagine owning yourself so hard that even the most unimaginative people possible can dunk on you at will.
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If you're in favor of destroying the Democratic party, Biden 2020 seems like the most viable path.
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Biden would have already been taken down if he did anything substantial he's not a rapist like bill clinton
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The SUCC is getting mixed in with right-wing pure-strain bullshit. I'm very down for deplugging the white woman's thirst for minority validation when she's not lived a day or done fuckall for any of us, but it shouldn't be conflated with the rancid poo poo dripping out of the right. https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1052225045639176192
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Peter Daou Bundy posted:Biden would have already been taken down if he did anything substantial you say that like bill clinton got taken down
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Peter Daou Bundy posted:Biden would have already been taken down if he did anything substantial When was the last time a sexual assault actually ended a political career?
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The crazy thing about all of this is how easy it would have been for Warren to get a win here! Take the DNA test, then throw it out, and instead of wasting time on her ancestry release a video on, like, voting rights or poverty or sexual assault in NA populations. loving Clinton staffer bullshit.
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D.Ork Bimboolean posted:The SUCC is getting mixed in with right-wing pure-strain bullshit. I know it is right-wing pure-strain bullshit, that's the point. It was that bad of a self own.
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MizPiz posted:When was the last time a sexual assault actually ended a political career? al Franken
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Peter Daou Bundy posted:al Franken CONSPIRACY AGAINST HIM BY BERNIEBROS
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lol, according to Politico, Warren has the DNC's former head of Native American outreach working for her. HOW
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Barry Convex posted:lol, according to Politico, Warren has the DNC's former head of Native American outreach working for her. HOW that former head wasn't in on those conversations, probably intentionally, that former head actively thought this was a good play, or that she was simply ignored for opposing it.
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Nonsense posted:that former head wasn't in on those conversations, probably intentionally, that former head actively thought this was a good play, or that she was simply ignored for opposing it. This actually does seem to be playing well among Warren's base as far as I can tell because they don't care how incredibly tone deaf it was and just care that she had what they consider to be a DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT moment. As much fun as this is to mock I doubt it'll actually impact anything other than reminding native americans that the Democrats don't care about them any more than the Republicans do.
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Prester Jane posted:I'm really curious on a demographic/age breakdown on people here who are arguing Warren hosed up vs. this was a smart move. Yeah, no. Maybe if they were around for swiftboat and thought Kerry had a good response. Or possibly religiously reads Kos and Wonkette and think they know something like it is still 2006 The only appropriate reaction to a political attack has ever been "suck my dick you fuckman", and segue to your own message. Never let 'em talk about what they want to talk about.
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Nonsense posted:that former head wasn't in on those conversations, probably intentionally, that former head actively thought this was a good play, or that she was simply ignored for opposing it. It's possible there's a reason they're the former head of Native American outreach.
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Grimoire posted:The only appropriate reaction to a political attack has ever been "suck my dick you fuckman", and segue to your own message. Never let 'em talk about what they want to talk about. I wish I could loving stamp this on people's foreheads.
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Here is a headline https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/1052227669688033281
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incidentally this inspired me to send that dna test kit thing in stay tuned to find out if I'm the first person of colour in my mom's basement
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Here is the entire article:quote:Political activist and Green Party Presidential candidate, Ralph Nader, who is known for being tough on Democrats tells Ari Melber it would be good for Mike Bloomberg to run against Trump as a Democrat in 2020, saying “Wall Street is his weakness” but that “he could shake up the Democratic Party”. Nader also slams Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez for refusing to answer his calls and emails.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Here is the entire article: lol
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Here is a headline the charitable speculation here is that nader is trying to boost the candidate most likely to finally destroy the Democratic party though it's probably more likely that he has a bad brain worms infestation and has gone full PSA
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ohhhh, konnichiwa
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Here is the entire article: what the hell i love tom perez now???
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freckle posted:unsourced quotes sure pay dividends got four goons with that quote so far, hoping a fifth shows up before the day is over
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lol who is going to vote for this dude, what is his constituency https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1052251351055552513
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I'm Cringin' Chris Coons
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I guess the point is that whichever way you slice it, claiming or denying Native heritage through blood quantum is racist - and all the liberals who are trying to defend Warren either don't know enough about the issue to understand why it's bad or cynically don't care. I got told that wasn't even the topic of conversation and that DNA tests and blood quantum will help Native people in their search for rights in these dark days. When I asked what the gently caress the topic of conversation even was about then, they ignored me.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lol who is going to vote for this dude, what is his constituency There was a time, a long long time ago, where I would have considered him.  in the year 2018
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castro is the original Rising Star. joe kennedy is but a pale imitation
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