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Lambert posted:This alignment came to pass because of trumped up concerns by Waxman about the dangers of tunneling through a methane zone. Both right. The red line was supposed to have a branch through K-town to Beverly hills, and that's now the Purple line. Purple/Red was the same project and planning.
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Oct 16, 2018 23:24
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Poizner is running as an independent and in 2016 endorsed Kasich. Do not vote for this man.
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Oct 16, 2018 23:26
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God drat itquote:The survey participants were also asked about Proposition 6, which would repeal the hike and vehicle fees. The measure would also require any future fuel taxes to be approved by voters.
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Oct 16, 2018 23:28
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I didn't say I was voting for him, I'm just confused that he has universal support from the editorial boards and it's making me second guess things. I'm pretty sure that's going to gently caress with a lot of people's heads as well.
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Oct 16, 2018 23:31
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FMguru posted:God drat it This seems real bad.
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Oct 16, 2018 23:38
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If Prop 6 passes, the only thing I can hope for is that Sacramento will start its session being highly motivated to replace it with a more progressive tax. And maybe the infrastructure projects that are currently in a quantum funding state can make it through, somehow. Oh, who am I kidding? Those projects will see massive cost overruns because of the false start and the GOP jerks will call it proof that the government can't handle anything. (See also, CA High-Speed Rail.)
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Oct 17, 2018 00:17
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FMguru posted:God drat it My lunch-time walk takes me past a big townhouse development that I know for a fact has an HOA "no renting/AirBnB/etc" policy in place because a co-worker lives there. Despite this, there are maybe a half dozen No on 10 signs stuck outside houses of people who literally aren't even allowed to rent their home out. 
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Oct 17, 2018 00:28
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Wasn't 6 exactly the opposite of that last set of polling?
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Oct 17, 2018 02:04
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I dunno about you guys but in north county San Diego there are those yellow YES on 6 signs all over the place.
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Oct 17, 2018 02:20
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Jaxyon posted:Wasn't 6 exactly the opposite of that last set of polling? Yeah that seems waaay off from previous polling edit: http://amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article219064245.html Yeah, something screwy is going on. Did somebody reverse the numbers? Tarezax fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 02:20
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Tarezax posted:Yeah that seems waaay off from previous polling I'd bet a lot of the 'no' vote came from people who didn't know that this was the gas tax repeal. That's the sort of vote that will flip quickly after a good ad campaign. Weembles fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 02:42
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It might be an outlier, it might be accurate. Impossible to know without a whole lot more polling that won't happen.
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Oct 17, 2018 03:35
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Saw a No on 8 ad on TV today, lying about taking dialysis away from people. loving vultures.
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Oct 17, 2018 04:33
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what votes most gently caress the state of jefferson prolapses?
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Oct 17, 2018 05:17
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CPColin posted:If Prop 6 passes, the only thing I can hope for is that Sacramento will start its session being highly motivated to replace it with a more progressive tax. And maybe the infrastructure projects that are currently in a quantum funding state can make it through, somehow. The GOP plan is to then kill high speed rail and reallocate those funds to what prop 6 took away
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Oct 17, 2018 06:12
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Jaxyon posted:I like how the "dont' blame voters, blame the dems" stuff goes out the window when voters don't vote the way we wanted them to. For me, personally, the Dem party is a reflection of their typical white voter, who is an West-Wing worshipping dipshit with no moral center who thinks that they are smart and above it all when in fact they are stupid and believe in discredited and useless positions and tactics and who keep voting in losers because they throw them a few rhetorical shoutouts. Other leftists certainly have different opinions, but that's mine. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 16:47
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FCKGW posted:The GOP plan is to then kill high speed rail and reallocate those funds to what prop 6 took away For sure. Or at least whine about it to make their base go, "Yeah! Stupid Dumbocrats!" because it's an easy issue to do that with. (Never mind all the good construction jobs the project is currently providing.)
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Oct 17, 2018 17:00
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Anyone got useful guidance about which state supreme court justices to vote yea/nay on? I remember hearing that Carol Corrigan is against same-sex marriage but the rest are blank faces to me at the moment (& unsurprisingly, most voting guides like Ballotpedia or CalMatters tend to ignore it entirely). EDIT: looking back for juicy bits on the props, and I found some earlier posts about the justices too, starting here. bitprophet fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 19:53
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filthy regex posted:I didn't say I was voting for him, I'm just confused that he has universal support from the editorial boards and it's making me second guess things. I'm pretty sure that's going to gently caress with a lot of people's heads as well. Poizner was previously Insurance Commissioner under Schwarzenegger, and did an okay job. That’s why newspapers like him. He’s also a temporarily embarrassed Republican. That’s why this forum, which wouldn’t elect a Republican to anything ever, doesn’t like him. The most concerning thing about him is his failed run for Governor tried scapegoating illegal immigrants as a Hail Mary play before fading out. So meanwhile, about Prop 8... Remember that I said that I was voting for 8 because, despite the many unknowns, it would provide some balance of equality between Medicare patients and private insurance? Turns out the reason so many companies were pulling out of the individual exchanges was that DaVita was using ACA’s no-rescission clause to steer people away from government subsidized healthcare and into commercial insurance in a scheme so greedy that it makes for-profit health insurance nearly seem sympathetic. That was a major driver behind the bitching and abandoning of the exchanges, and in doing so, they handed people who don’t believe in people getting healthcare they can’t pay for a win. John Oliver’s DaVita bit talked about how their clown of a CEO turned the company around from near bankruptcy, and I betcha he simply fell upwards due to the Third Way’s inability to write regulation.
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Oct 17, 2018 20:01
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corrigan, richman, siggins, and Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 20:08
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Raskolnikov38 posted:corrigan, richman, siggins, and tucher were the judges i voted no on due to gay marriage and/or being nominated by a republican governor This Tucher? Because she was appointed by Brown and seems like a decent person.
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Oct 17, 2018 20:27
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oh whoops i read the wrong line on my ballot, its barbara jr jones i voted no on because wilson nominated her
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Oct 17, 2018 20:30
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Yeah, the gay marriage judge and Jones were my only two no votes, and that was mostly because Pete Wilson is not only the kind of Republican whose name is accompanied with looming claps of thunder, but because he was Governor a lifetime ago in courtroom-time so some change is likely due anyway.
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Oct 17, 2018 20:35
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bitprophet posted:Anyone got useful guidance about which state supreme court justices to vote yea/nay on? I remember hearing that Carol Corrigan is against same-sex marriage but the rest are blank faces to me at the moment (& unsurprisingly, most voting guides like Ballotpedia or CalMatters tend to ignore it entirely). Following up on this, I ended up following this voter's guide for the justices, since they basically spite-endorsed the opposite of what some "liburl activist judges!!!  " shitlords were recommending. 
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Oct 17, 2018 20:40
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Nice, thanks. Of course now I have to put my voting on hold while I request a replacement ballot because I somehow managed to reach for a pen whose ink bleeds right through the drat ballot paper  Guessing I have to wait for another one to be emergency-mailed to me, though part of me secretly hopes they keep extras at my local dropoff location (doubtful).Already emailed the appropriate folks for my county's elections dept so we'll see what's what. Just feel like a total moron. (more than usual, that is...)
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Oct 17, 2018 21:14
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i'm not sure if bleed through is a problem. the instructions on mine say you're allowed to make corrections by crossing out the mistake
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Oct 17, 2018 21:26
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm not sure if bleed through is a problem. the instructions on mine say you're allowed to make corrections by crossing out the mistake
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Oct 17, 2018 21:36
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at least in my county or whatever you can turn in your mail in ballot at the polling place to get a regular ballot to fill out there
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Oct 17, 2018 21:53
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bitprophet posted:Anyone got useful guidance about which state supreme court justices to vote yea/nay on? I remember hearing that Carol Corrigan is against same-sex marriage but the rest are blank faces to me at the moment (& unsurprisingly, most voting guides like Ballotpedia or CalMatters tend to ignore it entirely). I'll post links to opinions from the ones in my district when I get there, but it'll take me awhile to chew through stuff. None of them have been too bad except for one somewhat dubious judgement about whether a probation restriction is unconstitutionally vague.
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Oct 17, 2018 23:48
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Craptacular! posted:Turns out the reason so many companies were pulling out of the individual exchanges was that DaVita was using ACA’s no-rescission clause to steer people away from government subsidized healthcare and into commercial insurance in a scheme so greedy that it makes for-profit health insurance nearly seem sympathetic.  I imagine these people aren't far from the point of just literally poisoning people so that their kidneys fail in order to get themselves more patients.
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Oct 18, 2018 03:47
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Buttcoin purse posted:
did you hear that the company that makes oxycontin and is popularly acknowledged to have pushed doctors to overprescribe it just patented a drug to manage oxycontin withdrawal symptoms
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Oct 18, 2018 03:53
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Shear Modulus posted:did you hear that the company that makes oxycontin and is popularly acknowledged to have pushed doctors to overprescribe it just patented a drug to manage oxycontin withdrawal symptoms And is pushing OxyContin on the global South As  non-addictive
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Oct 18, 2018 04:15
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Buttcoin purse posted:
According to the John Oliver segment, they actively discouraged people from getting transplants in order to keep them as dialysis patients. Note that the life expectancy of a transplant patient is substantially longer than that of a dialysis patient who never gets a transplant. So yes, there is absolutely precedent for them actively harming patients in order to improve the bottom line, up to and including probably being at least partly responsible for a lot of patient deaths.
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Oct 18, 2018 05:16
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Leperflesh posted:According to the John Oliver segment, they actively discouraged people from getting transplants in order to keep them as dialysis patients. uhhh i believe thats called the free market and as we all know the invisible hand guarantees that consumers will get the best product because otherwise another company would make it and run them out of business
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Oct 18, 2018 05:17
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Any truth to this? "Re: prop 6 they already implemented the taxes and are planning on raising them if it's voted no, but the 'infrastructure' they say they're using the money for has like 46% planned to go to CHP and fire department pensions instead."
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Oct 18, 2018 23:57
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As of polls taken in June, Julia Peacock is probably not beating Calvert in district 42. Would anyone like to tell me otherwise 
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Oct 19, 2018 01:27
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Any truth to this? seems like there's some truth to both these arguments? Just not sure I wanna be on the same page as Devin Nunes
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Oct 19, 2018 02:55
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I cannot speak to the CHP stuff but I will reiterate the other point: I work for a transportation agency in California, and we also handle road construction for the county. All of it is being funded by the gas tax. We would be capital F, hosed, if it gets repealed because a lot of this poo poo is already budgeted for. Current projects would have to have their scope dramatically cut back so they could be wrapped up in budget, and a lot of future projects would just be outright dropped. Also you have to jump through a ton of goddamn hoops to prove your project falls under transportation expenses to get SB1 funding. "THE GOVERNMENT IS MISMANAGING FUNDS  " is always somewhat true because bureaucrats gonna bureaucracy, but the vast majority of it is shithead Republicans looking for ways to turn voters against government funded projects.Please don't loving vote to repeal the gas tax, tia.
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Also yes "fix our roads and infrastructure" has been a talking point for decades because California is massive, has tons of infrastructure, and has tons2 of roads, and has tons3 of cars driving on those roads. It takes a lot of goddamn money to keep those roads in working order. It'd be cool if there were better ways for the average person to get around the state at scale but that just isn't the case so as long as driving everywhere all the time is the California way, we need to pour money into the infrastructure supporting that.
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