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voodoospork posted:I really appreciate the information. I'm definitely still a newbie at this game, but my trading is taking off pretty decently, and you just aren't experiencing Eve properly until it's at someone else's expense. So we have some money to spend and really want to take some candy from babies. How would you break into this with a core of 3 people? Is it as easy as taking some Catalysts out to Niarja and picking off the weakest from the herd? I'm the guy who rotates through his orders for hours on end, constantly updating, so annoying or tedious doesn't really represent an obstacle to me. Bumping sounds important, but I have only a basic knowledge of it. You just collide with an enemy ship to knock them out of alignment or move them away from something, right? Does simply approaching them not work? Do you need to anticipate heading and move ahead of them? Where looting is concerned, can you usually loot in the combat vessels or do you need something with larger capacity on hand? I know these are really noob questions, but that's the situation. Generally ganking is limited by accounts- less so people. If you only have 3 accounts, I would recommend industrial ganking in cruisers (maller or vexor) or battlecruiser (tornado). One scout, one looter, one DPS (killer/ganker). A scout to cargo and ship scan incoming targets (generally industrials), a ganker/dps to kill the target, and a looter to, well, loot. Ideally you should loot with a ship with a similar cargo to whatever you're ganking, so if it all drops you can get it all. Location wise, I'd recommend Madirmilire, traffic runs from Jita <-> Amarr so set your scout one jump out along the pipe and you should find enough targets. https://evepraisal.com CTRL-A and CTRL-C the cargo scan of the target you're looking at into here, and click submit. It will generally give you a good price estimation. http://halaimacode.byethost8.com/fitscan.html CTRL-A and CTRL-C the fittings multiple times (until you're satisfied) into this to get an accurate EHP number of the target. It takes a while, and having someone help you out early on to run you through it and then answer questions you have when doing it helps. CODE DISCORD (We're not always helpful but next time I gank industrials you can tag along and shoot poo poo and I'll show you how it's done. Bumping is a freighter ganking thing, I'm the only guy in the game who really bumps industrials so dw about that for now.
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Dalael posted:25 rorquals belonging to the same guy showing up in your belt These people are loving vultures. Last moon I have fracked had like 4 people waiting for 40 minutes on the Athanor and 5 minutes before the rock exploded local spiked from 8 to 40+. If I include faction spawns, I am sticking to my Wyvern.
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yogizh posted:These people are loving vultures. Last moon I have fracked had like 4 people waiting for 40 minutes on the Athanor and 5 minutes before the rock exploded local spiked from 8 to 40+. Honestly, if i had assurance from innominate that these assholes would be dealt with if enough evidence was brought up, i'd spend half my time in EVEA writting down names and taking screenshot. One of them (vultures) once told me that he considers low scale operations (ppl with only a few accounts) to be a hindrance because they don't cycle the belt fast enough and it slows down his operation.
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Oct 19, 2018 20:15
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I found a nice quiet system with decent sec and a large belt that no-one ever seems to touch, and just couldn't be happier. Spend 2-3 hours munching spod every few days, completely krab free.
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Oct 19, 2018 20:24
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Dalael posted:Honestly, if i had assurance from innominate that these assholes would be dealt with if enough evidence was brought up, i'd spend half my time in EVEA writting down names and taking screenshot. slow down his operation by cynoing in wibla
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Dalael posted:Honestly, if i had assurance from innominate that these assholes would be dealt with if enough evidence was brought up, i'd spend half my time in EVEA writting down names and taking screenshot. he's not wrong but gently caress him Newbies and low-effort people get in the way of everything, whether it's sperging about mining or fleet compositions or whatever. But those newbies and low-effort people are absolutely worth courting and accommodating over shitlords report that guy's ceo to someone who matters for having a shitbag spreading that wrongthink
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Addamere posted:he's not wrong but gently caress him Nah, he's 100% wrong. If he wants the belt to cycle faster, he could stay with his 25 Rorqual and finish it in 30 minutes. He doesn't and let the others mine the Ochre. So the truth is, he's the one slowing things down by absolutely refusing to mine anything but the good poo poo. Pretending like the people actually doing the dirty work are the problem is just low. FruitNYogurtParfait posted:slow down his operation by cynoing in wibla :grabstitan:
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How should I sell these PLEX and multiple pilot training licenses I got from that offer? I'm in 1DQ and don't have a Jita alt or any fuckery like that. I just want to cash these in so I can continue investing in the market. Or should I hold on to them?  edit: i do have an alt in empire though, and I haven't redeemed anything yet Rhopunzel fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Rhopunzel posted:How should I sell these PLEX and multiple pilot training licenses I got from that offer? I'm in 1DQ and don't have a Jita alt or any fuckery like that. I just want to cash these in so I can continue investing in the market. Or should I hold on to them? I just redeemed them and sold them in Jita. You could hold onto them but I’m not sure it’s worth it especially if you’re trying to get capital for other things moving
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Oct 19, 2018 21:48
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DrHammond posted:Gimmie 300B/hr and I'll bet I could invigorate the PI market enough to get autists injecting hoards of new PI characters. Is PI dead now? Last time I played producing Coolant and Enriched Uranium made some serious (for me) money.
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Oct 19, 2018 21:56
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Travic posted:Is PI dead now? Last time I played producing Coolant and Enriched Uranium made some serious (for me) money. it is a very easy way to make 500mil/month if you invest 1 month of training i just found this out and after i get through my current skillplan i'll be working on that post haste
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Oct 19, 2018 22:00
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The only thing that would make a Palatine keepstar worthwhile is if they renamed it to the Palantir keepstar, and the gimmick it had is being able to open huge stable K>K wormholes that could target regions - not specific systems.
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Oct 19, 2018 22:09
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You should build the keepstar and it projects holograms of hardcore porn into space
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Oct 19, 2018 22:13
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look if we want everyone to come kill us again we dont need a palatine, just get sion back @ mittens news
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Oct 19, 2018 22:14
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To be fair, didn’t we used to say the same thing about Titans and now people rat with them they’re so common? Except in this case the palpatine is completely useless
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:To be fair, didn’t we used to say the same thing about Titans and now people rat with them they’re so common? there's no comparison because titans dont require literally more materials than exist in the game and after the first titan each titan was easier because the logistics got easier, and then jfs and other methods got added to make it even easier
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nex posted:look if we want everyone to come kill us again we dont need a palatine, just get sion back @ mittens news get budget tom clancy and do another kickstarter
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Hexel posted:get budget tom clancy and do another kickstarter Honestly a Kickstarter to fund a brand new Corp with some bullshit stated goal that appeals to nerds would be a great scam to load yourself up with resources
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I just redeemed them and sold them in Jita. You could hold onto them but I’m not sure it’s worth it especially if you’re trying to get capital for other things moving So just fulfill buy orders in Jita, sales tax/brokers free be damned?
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Oct 19, 2018 23:30
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Dalael posted:I don't own one. This is just the number most super owner like to throw around. having ratted in a super quite a lot that's like, the peak if you have perfect skills and a good system but you're probably looking at 225-250m most of the time also rorquals have the advantage of not making you want to gouge your own eyes out after an hour
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terrified of my bathroom posted:having ratted in a super quite a lot that's like, the peak if you have perfect skills and a good system but you're probably looking at 225-250m most of the time Then consider my estimation revised. While the rorqual allows you to chill and watch netflix you will more often than not make less than optimal and will really end up doing 100m per hour. At least you can multi them easier. in the end, both have advantages or drawbacks...
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Rhopunzel posted:So just fulfill buy orders in Jita, sales tax/brokers free be damned? No, create your own sell order and you can even 0,01 them (but they sell pretty quick)
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Dalael posted:Then consider my estimation revised. The initial investment means that you have a fuckload of Netflix to watch just to break even, though 
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7 million sterile conduits? Like, they go for 1.3m each on jita, so that's 9 trillion on those alone. gently caress that noise
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:slow down his operation by cynoing in wibla *Grabs Titan*
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nex posted:look if we want everyone to come kill us again we dont need a palatine, just get sion back @ mittens news Well you need an untouchable Isk faucet. Without the isk from Lenny's Casino none of those groups would have risked their "precious kill boards," to fight that kind of war or cooperate. If they all banded together again and had to run a war on the current economics it ends in complete flame out. All the Casino War did was temporarily create an enviroment were elite "spescshite samurai" could actually exist. To get everyone together requires several egos surrendering to an overlord and no one getting pissed at being "3rd string quaterback." On a lighter note happy to see Hilmar making GBS threads a brick on stage, no one should be allowed to gently caress up that hard at their job and think they have any semblance of job security. Party at my private club when Iceland gets turned into the ghetto of Europe when Pearl Abyss closes down that poo poo hole.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Iceland gets turned into the ghetto of Europe They need to gently caress up some other things along with CCP to get there. There is a lot of competition here.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Well you need an untouchable Isk faucet. Without the isk from Lenny's Casino none of those groups would have risked their "precious kill boards," to fight that kind of war or cooperate. If they all banded together again and had to run a war on the current economics it ends in complete flame out. All the Casino War did was temporarily create an enviroment were elite "spescshite samurai" could actually exist. To get everyone together requires several egos surrendering to an overlord and no one getting pissed at being "3rd string quaterback." Yeah, the economics have changed considerably. On that note, I bet with the war over an all, the October economic report is going to be absolutely hilarious.
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Im giggling like an idiot as I was auto piloting through 3 different null regions and its in 1.0 space that I get killed by a thrasher lmao. This game always finds a way to make me laugh.
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What did Hilmar do? I haven't been following the stream.
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Ynglaur posted:What did Hilmar do? I haven't been following the stream. spent an hour telling the presentation about the two new gacha mobile games ccp is putting out next year
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MaxPowers posted:Im giggling like an idiot as I was auto piloting through 3 different null regions and its in 1.0 space that I get killed by a thrasher lmao. This game always finds a way to make me laugh. 1.0 space is much more dangerous than 0.0 space. CONCORD is there to protect you from the other people, but in 0.0 space there is no other people so there is no worries!
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:spent an hour telling the presentation about the two new gacha mobile games ccp is putting out next year Was Eve discussed at the, uh, Eve convention?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:spent an hour telling the presentation about the two new gacha mobile games ccp is putting out next year Project Nova looked semi-interesting though. Not going to lie, fighting on the back of a Maelstrom is pretty cool.
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Ynglaur posted:Was Eve discussed at the, uh, Eve convention? Yeah, they did a keynote that was all about Eve. They did say up front that Hilmar's presentation was specifically not about Eve things.
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Oct 20, 2018 15:13
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Developing an Eve client for mobile phones and then tying it to a seperate server is the most  thing that have done for a while
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ccp could rake in an absurd amount of money if they just made a mobile app that let you do everything that doesn't involve undocking like editing market orders and cycling industry jobs charge an extra 99 cents on the subscription as an addon and enjoy
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pi in particular would make a great mobile interface because it's a lot of tapping and clicking and whatnot thing is, those sorts of mobile applications are just augmenting an existing customer base, which is basically worthless in terms of making $TEXAS ccp wants to make $TEXAS with gacha poo poo instead, which, frankly, is a reasonable business decision sucks for us though
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As far as I understand it any Keepstar can be destroyed with titan commitment no matter how many defenders are there. So under this premise Palatine Keepstar will basically never be worth it because it just will get destroyed no matter what...
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