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Dum Cumpster posted:Trade for it or did it drop? I need to keep it until vacation next month, then I'm sure we could work something out.
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https://gizmodo.com/no-such-thing-as-too-much-exercise-study-finds-1829874676
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that's literally what the study says https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2707428 quote:Findings In this cohort study of 122 007 consecutive patients undergoing exercise treadmill testing, cardiorespiratory fitness was inversely associated with all-cause mortality without an observed upper limit of benefit. Extreme cardiorespiratory fitness (≥2 SDs above the mean for age and sex) was associated with the lowest risk-adjusted all-cause mortality compared with all other performance groups.
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The research paper is good the gizmodo article is bad
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quote:That exercise is universally great for our health sounds like a no-brainer, sure. But in recent years, there’s actually been evidence that elite athletes and other heavy exercisers might paradoxically be at greater risk of some heart conditions than the average person, such as an irregular heartbeat, clogged arteries, and thickened heart valves. And these conditions might then raise an athlete’s risk of sudden cardiac death or other heart problems. i'm going to hazard a guess that this might have something to do with elite athletes also taking vast quantities of peds
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i switched from low bar squatting to high bar squatting and now my squatting is both more enjoyable and more aesthetic
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MikeCrotch posted:i'm going to hazard a guess that this might have something to do with elite athletes also taking vast quantities of peds But the lab science says they are clean bois!
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is there any point in low bar squatting if you don’t plan to compete in powerlifting
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barkbell posted:is there any point in low bar squatting if you don’t plan to compete in powerlifting Hams for days
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barkbell posted:is there any point in low bar squatting if you don’t plan to compete in powerlifting The same reason as doing any other type of squat if you don't plan to compete in strength sports: you want to exercise lower body strength and you feel like doing that type of squat
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Fhqwhgads posted:Hams for days No. Our Lord and saviour Greg Nuckols says that neither type of squat is either quad or hip dominant when executed properly, the differences between them are extremely minor, and the only reason other than personal preference to choose one is sport-specific movement patterns (high bar for weightlifting, low bar for powerlifters that squat in that style). If you're not a competitive strength athlete, squat however you like. feelix fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Oct 23, 2018 |
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feelix posted:No. Our Lord and saviour Greg Nuckols says that neither type of squat is either quad or hip dominant when executed properly, the differences between them are extremely minor, and the only reason other than personal preference to choose one is sport-specific movement patterns (high bar for weightlifting, low bar for powerlifters that squat in that style). If you're not a competitive strength athlete, squat however you like. ya thats what i thought ty
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Brad Schoenfeld has done ekg tests as well and squats aren't great for ham activation Do RDLs or hamstring curls if you want to get ***juicy***
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MikeCrotch posted:Do RDLs or hamstring curls if you want to get ***juicy***  Is there something I am probably/possibly doing wrong? Also anything with "curl" in the name sucks. I hate how biceps and hamstrings feel while curling. I still do them both religiously. edit: vvv that was probably me, I wish they made actual wide ones but whatever. That's the closest you'll get outside of custom made ones. Khorne fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Oct 24, 2018 |
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Mustached Demon posted:Have you tried squatting with Olympic shoe and high bar? The ones with the ~1" heels. Changed my squat world for sure. I'm so happy I bought lifting shoes and to the goon who recommended Romaleos II for wide feet, thank you. After a month they felt perfect.
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feelix posted:No. Our Lord and saviour Greg Nuckols says that neither type of squat is either quad or hip dominant when executed properly, the differences between them are extremely minor, and the only reason other than personal preference to choose one is sport-specific movement patterns (high bar for weightlifting, low bar for powerlifters that squat in that style). If you're not a competitive strength athlete, squat however you like. How do they define executed properly?
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I worship only one god, and that's myself. I'm monomeistic
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feelix posted:No. Our Lord and saviour Greg Nuckols says that neither type of squat is either quad or hip dominant when executed properly, the differences between them are extremely minor, and the only reason other than personal preference to choose one is sport-specific movement patterns (high bar for weightlifting, low bar for powerlifters that squat in that style). If you're not a competitive strength athlete, squat however you like. I remember seeing a video where Klokov says he prefers front squat for training weightlifting because it’s range of motion mimics important parts of clean & jerk and snatch
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dads friend steve posted:I remember seeing a video where Klokov says he prefers front squat for training weightlifting because it’s range of motion mimics important parts of clean & jerk and snatch Why not both?
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I like to do frontsquats as a supplemental lift, because I am so weak at them that my normal squat feels really strong and good in comparison. Also, I'm currently trying a new template from Wendlers 531 Forever book. It has me do a rep PR set at 90%TM which has me doing 10+ reps right now, and right after that I'll need to do a 70%TM Widowmaker. I've got the Squat and BB Bench out of the way but man I'm not looking forward to Deadlift and the Press. It is awesome.
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finally got 220lbs log over head and for 2 reps too. i had my first physio massage ever the night before and felt like my shoulders and upper back were a whole new muscle group. going for weekly massages and cupping now too. feels good man
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To me a happy ending for a massage is being able to move my shoulders and hips again.
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What’s cupping?
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dads friend steve posted:What’s cupping? a pseudoscientific procedure where heated cups are applied to the skin. as the cups cool, suction is created inside the cups which is supposed to draw out "toxins". all it really accomplishes is rupturing blood vessels, causing bruises.
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And making you feel like you're being molested by an octopus. It's all a big scam, it's the Japanese porn industry trying to ensure long-term business. In other news, I heard a guy barking at the gym this morning. Woo 4 AM gym.
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LordArgh posted:a pseudoscientific procedure where heated cups are applied to the skin. as the cups cool, suction is created inside the cups which is supposed to draw out "toxins". all it really accomplishes is rupturing blood vessels, causing bruises. Wet cupping claims to draw out toxins. That's when they poke holes in your skin before to make you bleed first. Of course anything to do with "toxins" is bullshit, but there is evidence it can help with things like gout. Dry cupping, more common with athletes, is meant to drive blood to sore muscles and trigger an anti-inflammatory response. Last I read, research is murky and it likely doesn't help beyond the placebo effect.
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You gotta cuppa da bawlls!!!
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When you're a beginner and getting those sweet linear progressions is it better to do that a/b split full body so it lasts longer or just do everything but ya deadlift 3x a week (or light assistance on off days; like if bench is a day on b do a lighter horizontal push too for higher reps) so you gain even faster? 1.5x a week just doesn't feel like enough and I really love lifting now. Also Holy poo poo the first time you're putting 45s on you feel amazing. I can't wait to put pairs of 45s on the bar. One last thing. How hard is it to make your friends lift too so you can flex-laugh and play the pillar men hype theme at parties? Maybe I need new friends and some clackers. (By ab full body split I mean stuff like phrak's greyskull lp which I'm on) ((Lol i said I lift lifting)) Space Whale fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Oct 24, 2018 |
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Space Whale posted:One last thing. How hard is it to make your friends lift too so you can flex-laugh and play the pillar men hype theme at parties? Try handing these out: 
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dads friend steve posted:What’s cupping? Using an airtight container and some method of creating a mild vacuum to create suction on the skin. The container is usually some variety of circular object. Asian traditional medicines used ceramic cups that were heated, placed on the skin, and allowed to cool which lowers the pressure inside the cup and creates a vacuum. Modern methods use either an air pump to create the vacuum or malleable plastic cups that can be squeezed to remove some of the air. There are some obviously crackpot methods of using them, like "traditional" medicine and aggressive uses leaving severe bruising or involving piercing the skin, but otherwise it's just another method of creating mechanical sensory experience, same as any other massage or manual therapy technique. If a PT or other manual therapy specialist likes to use them as part of an evidence based approach to care, or if a patient/client finds them more effective than other techniques, then there is nothing wrong with using cups versus using hands or other tools. nooneofconsequence posted:Wet cupping claims to draw out toxins. That's when they poke holes in your skin before to make you bleed first. Of course anything to do with "toxins" is bullshit, but there is evidence it can help with things like gout. Dry cupping, more common with athletes, is meant to drive blood to sore muscles and trigger an anti-inflammatory response. Last I read, research is murky and it likely doesn't help beyond the placebo effect. It is a theory among some in physical therapy research that all manual therapies have a significant placebo component responsible for their effectiveness. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22294849 turd in my singlet fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Oct 24, 2018 |
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Basically someone figured out how to make money off that thing where you suck a mcdonald's cup onto your lower lip / chin
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Why is stuff like Graston and ART considered less of a scam than dry cupping? Don't they all work on the same alleged mechanism of increasing local inflammation to encourage tissues to heal themselves E: I guess Graston specifically, ART is at least a little more sensible since it involves movement of the joints feelix fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 24, 2018 |
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cupping is one of the numerous ways people can extract money from other dumber people who are "into health" these people also go on "dextox diets" and "juice cleanses"
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feelix posted:Why is stuff like Graston and ART considered less of a scam than dry cupping? I don’t consider them less of a scam. If you find these things to benefit you then do them. Just realize it’s probably driven by placebo
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feelix posted:Why is stuff like Graston and ART considered less of a scam than dry cupping? Better marketing, more sciencey jargon, certification is limited to medical professionals. All are valid manual therapy techniques, but none are demonstrably better than any other manual therapy techniques. quote:Don't they all work on the same alleged mechanism of increasing local inflammation to encourage tissues to heal themselves I'm not sure there's evidence that manual therapies work by encouraging healing. The current theories I've seen involve altering threat perception by the central nervous system. quote:E: I guess Graston specifically, ART is at least a little more sensible since it involves movement of the joints I'm not sure there's evidence that joint manipulation is more effective than any other manual therapies. barkbell posted:I don’t consider them less of a scam. If you find these things to benefit you then do them. Just realize it’s probably driven by placebo This applies to every kind of passive therapy or recovery technique pretty much.
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barkbell posted:I don’t consider them less of a scam. If you find these things to benefit you then do them. Just realize it’s probably driven by placebo the cool thing about placebos is you can know, scientifically, that something is a placebo and it can still work on you!
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Killing Loaf posted:I'm not sure there's evidence that manual therapies work by encouraging healing. The current theories I've seen involve altering threat perception by the central nervous system. I would hand wave that messing with your soft tissues while a joint is moving should be better at alerting threat perception in a way that carries over to other movements of the same joint
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