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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Met Police home decor range:

Live Well
Laugh Often
Love To Imprison Black Youths

E: 253 is an experimental book thing. Sounds interesting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/253_(novel)

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Oct 31, 2018

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

WhatEvil posted:

Met Police home decor range:

Live Well
Laugh Often
Love To Imprison Black Youths

E: 253 is an experimental book thing. Sounds interesting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/253_(novel)

I saw Geoff Ryman do a story-telling at a science fiction convention one year. He kept us all enthralled. Very very good.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Junior G-man posted:

Therapy is a good thing and happy to hear your sadbrains aren't so sad. :glomp:

Rarity posted:

Way to go on taking care of yourself, top stuff :glomp:

it's less sad brains and more a teetering seesaw between "complete and utter apathy for everything and everyone and I just don't care" and "if this guy who's married with kids and has a better job doesn't shut the gently caress up about how hard his life is while I'm sitting here in my bedsit with £200 to last me to the end of the month, I will literally punch him" and I need a coping mechanism to balance out the mood swings

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
:thermidor:

https://twitter.com/denny_embargo/status/1057622285123760128

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

"if this guy who's married with kids and has a better job doesn't shut the gently caress up about how hard his life is while I'm sitting here in my bedsit with £200 to last me to the end of the month, I will literally punch him"
That one seems like a reasonable response. It's like how feminism picked up a big anti-psychiatry aspect in the 50s/60s in reaction to the psychiatric movement prescribing masses of benzos to housewives to treat their anxiety when what they actually needed was to be treated with human dignity.

Have you considered white collar boxing or making an effigy of him and punching it?

mehall
Aug 27, 2010



Not great to see the establishment coming out swinging, but this one is easy to re-frame.
Tories have cut other budgets, meaning the NHS spending is becoming a bigger fish in a shrinking pond.
The figure that matters is spending per head of population, and we're still below the rest of Europe on that figure.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Guavanaut posted:

Have you considered white collar boxing or making an effigy of him and punching it?

it's more than one person. Hell, it's most of the people I went to school with and "keep in touch with"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Make a generic one. Here's one you can cut out.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Guavanaut posted:

Make a generic one. Here's one you can cut out.



Why do all the leading Brexit gammons have the most punchable faces?

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Do what I do and turn that hatred inwards!

Note: Do not do this.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

It's amazing that they'll post this poo poo but they'll never look at the biggest drain on the NHS, outsourcing to private companies.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

worse than trump

Remind me, is this the civil war where we've not only provided munitions to the Sauds, but also sent "technical experts" to advise on their use (and possibly also decide who to point them at)?

I'm serious, I can't keep track of all these war crimes we're doing.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Josef bugman posted:

Do what I do and turn that hatred inwards!

Note: Do not do this.

nah, I've not self harmed since my twenties (fun fact: Working in McDonald's can be used as an excuse for cigarette burns), so I just rage on twitter until I need to go to sleep then feel a bit sulky in the morning

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

it's more than one person. Hell, it's most of the people I went to school with and "keep in touch with"

Remove them all from social media or whatever, it's very freeing.

I've been in touch with maybe five people I went to school with in the past seven years (since realising on our five year reunion that the wast majority were dickheads) and I don't regret a thing.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

sebzilla posted:

Remove them all from social media or whatever, it's very freeing.

I've been in touch with maybe five people I went to school with in the past seven years (since realising on our five year reunion that the wast majority were dickheads) and I don't regret a thing.

Yeah, I don't really talk to them on there and very few of the post anything and I've blocked most of them on twitter and ignore them when they ask what's wrong because turning around and saying "well, twenty years ago, some or all of you made a decision about my future I wasn't even aware I needed to make so you did it for me and I'm loving mad as hell" is perhaps not a line of questioning I want to go down. At least not yet

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Renaissance Robot posted:

Remind me, is this the civil war where we've not only provided munitions to the Sauds, but also sent "technical experts" to advise on their use (and possibly also decide who to point them at)?

I'm serious, I can't keep track of all these war crimes we're doing.

They literally couldn't run their own air force without the British support personnel included in their arms deals

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

sebzilla posted:

Remove them all from social media or whatever, it's very freeing.

I've been in touch with maybe five people I went to school with in the past seven years (since realising on our five year reunion that the wast majority were dickheads) and I don't regret a thing.

Yes genuinely, do this. Those people bring nothing positive to your life. Also try to remember that all you get from social media is someone’s “highlight reel” - just the good stuff. Nobody is gonna post on Facebook that they feel like a fuckup today but that doesn’t mean that nobody does.

Also yes sometimes a major cause of depression can be being surrounded by arseholes.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Oct 31, 2018

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

They literally couldn't run their own air force without the British support personnel included in their arms deals

So what, is May worried that if we come out firmly against SA they'll drop us in the poo poo by releasing evidence of the degree of our involvement?

Or is she just being her usual spineless self, do we think?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

WhatEvil posted:

Nobody is gonna post on Facebook that they feel like a fuckup today but that doesn’t mean that nobody is.
idk that's half my friends that still bother posting on facebook (or that facebook has selected for my feed or however that works).

The other half is spicy memes, and the third half is the actual babby-cat-holiday-car-decorations pictures it was designed for.

There's three halves there because there's a bunch of overlap. Like posting da share z0ne is a good overlap of 1 and 2
https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1039625691988467712

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
A good advert for sleeping all day is that it means I missed the seven millionth argument this year about why Corbyn and Labour should come out against Brexit immediately.

e: and newFlaps got a sixer, happy days

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

WhatEvil posted:

Nobody is gonna post on Facebook that they feel like a fuckup today

Everyone should absolutely do this. Candid personal posts are a really important way of raising awareness for various mental health issues. Plus all your mates will think you're proper brave

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Renaissance Robot posted:

So what, is May worried that if we come out firmly against SA they'll drop us in the poo poo by releasing evidence of the degree of our involvement?

Or is she just being her usual spineless self, do we think?

There was a Novara podcast recently that had a guy on talking about how our trade surplus with Saudi Arabia is significant enough to offset our deficits with France and Japan so :capitalism:

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


WhatEvil posted:

Yes genuinely, do this. Those people bring nothing positive to your life. Also try to remember that all you get from social media is someone’s “highlight reel” - just the good stuff. Nobody is gonna post on Facebook that they feel like a fuckup today but that doesn’t mean that nobody does.

The people on my feed do, but that's because we're mostly all part of the same larp community and are at least casual friends we share a drink with several times a year, if not good friends.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Rarity posted:

Everyone should absolutely do this. Candid personal posts are a really important way of raising awareness for various mental health issues. Plus all your mates will think you're proper brave

Well, maybe, but really if I posted about having a poo poo day every time I did I’d have no Facebook friends left within a month. Every day at work is awful drudgery and also my boss is on my Facebook so yay. I know you can hide posts from certain people but I can’t be arsed so I just don’t post unless I’m on holiday or have something amusing or whatever.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
I got rid of all my school acquaintances on Facebook except the one guy who now works for qinetiq because I want to yell at him

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

They literally couldn't run their own air force without the British support personnel included in their arms deals

Aye it's a package deal- ex-raf techs working for vast sums do the maintenance and load the bombs, a bunch of ruperts pick targets and plan the missions and then some saudi prince who happens to have been trained at raf cranwell for years gets in and pushes the button at the right time hopefully, boom, another hospital, wedding party or water treatment plant eats a face full of brimstone(TM)

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

DesperateDan posted:

Aye it's a package deal- ex-raf techs working for vast sums do the maintenance and load the bombs, a bunch of ruperts pick targets and plan the missions and then some saudi prince who happens to have been trained at raf cranwell for years gets in and pushes the button at the right time hopefully, boom, another hospital, wedding party or water treatment plant eats a face full of brimstone(TM)

That can't be right because I remember being told brimstone is so good it never harms the innocent

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Julio Cruz posted:

e: and newFlaps got a sixer, happy days

I'm still not clear on whether he's literally tory MP Jack Brereton (and if so why anybody bothers giving him the time of day) or if he just has the worst internet handle ever.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

Yeah, I don't really talk to them on there and very few of the post anything and I've blocked most of them on twitter and ignore them when they ask what's wrong because turning around and saying "well, twenty years ago, some or all of you made a decision about my future I wasn't even aware I needed to make so you did it for me and I'm loving mad as hell" is perhaps not a line of questioning I want to go down. At least not yet

I've had similar problems to this one mate, and I echo the folks saying sever. If they're no friends of yours why are you even Facebook / Twitter friends?

Any friend worth your time doesn't need to see you on social media anyway: I quit recently and other than being the insufferable oval office who keeps mentioning it out of the blue I've seen an improvement in the friendships I actually have and value.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
Also ditching facebook is quite possibly the one single action that improved my mental health more than anything else

You can still keep messenger working and nuke everything else if you need it for family or work bits.

It's loving poison for the psyche, ditch it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

notaspy posted:

Shouldn't we be aiming higher than making workers positions stronger in a capitalist market? Shouldn't we be aiming at getting rid of capitalism?

How do you propose to do that? Unless you plan to start firing the nukes you aren't going to get rid of capitalism within the term of the next labour government.

Whereas actual job creation has a lasting effect on worker welfare by actually letting them bargain, that's worker empowerment. Simialrly McDonnell's suggestions about cooperativizing companies and infrastructure are good for the same reason. Labour should be trying to use the government to provide the services people need and further attempt to protect what they build from subsequent government action by the next tory government, which will happen.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Oct 31, 2018

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

DesperateDan posted:

Also ditching facebook is quite possibly the one single action that improved my mental health more than anything else

You can still keep messenger working and nuke everything else if you need it for family or work bits.

It's loving poison for the psyche, ditch it.

Also this, never forget social media is explicitly designed to gently caress with your head, it's not an unintended side-effect

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

That can't be right because I remember being told brimstone is so good it never harms the innocent

Those orphans were probably up to something shifty

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

That can't be right because I remember being told brimstone is so good it never harms the innocent

Every warhead is wrapped in a contract stating that any signatory killed by the attached device is by definition not innocent

Small traces of blood are accepted in lieu of a written signature.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I will evangelise for deactivating your Facebook account or at the very least removing the Facebook and Twitter apps from your phone with a fervour previously seen only in raw food dieters. Don't keep that stress on your phone.

If you have a laptop or some real computer at home then get rid of the email app as well; emails are supposed to be asynchronous 'reply at your leisure' deals, not anxiety-inducting fuckers that blerp at you when you're out trying to enjoy a burger in peace. If you're posting in this thread I guarantee you're not important enough to be getting emails that need an immediate response wherever you are.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I only really keep it for the events, that's how half my friends publicize music and art and politics and birthday stuff.

OwlFancier posted:

How do you propose to do that? Unless you plan to start firing the nukes you aren't going to get rid of capitalism within the term of the next labour government.
More importantly how do we do that while

notaspy posted:

Then there is taking the Tory heartlands. This is where my thoughts of being a more open in what is meant by working people comes in. I think labour does need to change it's language to be a bit more specific about this type of service worker being the target of it's reforms.

Lastly we have to be less afraid about being a party that represents the middle-classes. As you can see from the graph I posted big swings happened in the metropoles from people who are conformable (https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/how-britain-voted-2017-general-election/). People who are willing, no, demanding that the riches they have are shared round. When I go to my branch meetings the vast majority of new members are from this background.

Like I'm sure I'm not alone ITT in saying that it'd be awesome if they went all in anticapitalism, but I'm struggling to see a tankie for the middle-classes manifesto?

I suppose they could go for something like "To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service."

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

There's the big switch under the desk in number 10 that says CAPITALISM ON/OFF

Gordon Broon nudged it with his knee in 2008 and it opened the big trapdoor in the treasury and all the poonds fell out.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Renaissance Robot posted:

So what, is May worried that if we come out firmly against SA they'll drop us in the poo poo by releasing evidence of the degree of our involvement?

I think all of us posting itt are in a hard position to deny involvement with SA

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


OwlFancier posted:

There's the big switch under the desk in number 10 that says CAPITALISM ON/OFF

Gordon Broon nudged it with his knee in 2008 and it opened the big trapdoor in the treasury and all the poonds fell out.

Where did they go?

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Into the pockets of the infinite dimension of Scroungers who live under the treasury, and who are summoned by socialists to invade the villages of hard working troop respecters and steal their jobs in the night and also turn their kids gay.

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