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My scalding hot take on First Contact is that while it's probably* the best TNG movie by a wide margin, Action Hero Picard is silly and the Sovereign class sucks. *I have a soft spot for Generations since it came out while I was a kid and I saw it in theaters.
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Generations would be a much better movie if it wasn't resolved with punching. Edit: Generations concept makes for a good Trek movie, but they didn't pull it off. A villain determined to get back to his own personal heaven needing to be stopped by convincing a former hero reluctant to leave HIS own personal heaven is cool. primaltrash fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Oct 31, 2018 |
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Oct 31, 2018 19:13
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Generations is the most TNG movie, right down to where the two-parter falls apart in the second half. 
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Oct 31, 2018 19:14
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I know Mr Plinkett got famous on his star wars reviews, but I think his TNG movie reviews are even better because the dude has a deep love for Trek. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Lr8cdZwHQ None of the TNG movies are good.
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Oct 31, 2018 19:22
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Baronjutter right on the money. I love every TOS film and none of the tng ones
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Oct 31, 2018 19:27
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Y'all making me wanna watch Stargate with this Teal'c dude
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Oct 31, 2018 19:45
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I think it’s interesting and telling that despite Star Trek being a sperglord haven, no moron wrote a 100 page rebuttal to the Plinkett Star Trek reviews not did anyone try to make up some kind of Star Trek ring theory bullshit to justify them. Something about Star Trek lets its fans accept that a lot of it is lovely, and something about Star Wars makes its fans slobber over it. On the other hand, there’s something about Star Trek that attracts pedos so it’s kind of a wash.
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Oct 31, 2018 19:47
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ashpanash posted:On the other hand, there’s something about Star Trek that attracts pedos so it’s kind of a wash. If I recall correctly this information came from the Toronto police, didn't it? Not to defend one of the most toxic if not the most toxic fandoms around, but Toronto cops are garbage and I wouldn't trust anything they say about anything
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Oct 31, 2018 20:01
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ashpanash posted:
Any pet theories?
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Oct 31, 2018 20:06
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Himuro posted:Any pet theories? Like the pony show, Star Trek preaches a message of celebrating tolerance and inclusion that apparently makes pedophiles think they'd be welcomed and included too.
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Oct 31, 2018 20:08
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Whalley posted:Y'all making me wanna watch Stargate with this Teal'c dude *Sensual Whisper*. Doooo itt
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Oct 31, 2018 20:09
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Iirc the dark joke from investigators is that there are two kinds of pedos: Star Wars and Star Trek.
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Oct 31, 2018 20:12
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Whalley posted:Y'all making me wanna watch Stargate with this Teal'c dude It's a delight. The first season they're finding their legs and seems overly serious and trying to be more like the movie. But once the show finds its legs and the characters are established it's a fantastic little series. I'd say the things SG1 did best, and they're things few to none had done at the time: -A good mix of one-off digestible episodes along with season and series wide arcs that feel natural and not LOST/BSG style panic make it up as you go along. -A good mix of legit interesting scifi, action, horror, and gritty serious stakes with comedy and self-awareness. -Respecting that the audience remembers that one-off episode about the ancient teleporting machine from 4 seasons ago and actually having a character say "What about that teleporter we have??" when it would absolutely solve the situation they're in this week. Tons of logical call-backs to previous episodes and seasons when it makes sense. -Lovely ensemble cast with good chemistry.
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Oct 31, 2018 20:18
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It was a show I really enjoyed. It falls a little at the end but a lot of quality in there.
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Pick posted:It was a show I really enjoyed. It falls a little at the end but a lot of quality in there. Yeah the last seasons with the big cast changes weren't as great, but Claudia Black is a delight. It also led to their brutal self-owning Farscape Parody scene.
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Oct 31, 2018 20:33
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah the last seasons with the big cast changes weren't as great, but Claudia Black is a delight. It also led to their brutal self-owning Farscape Parody scene. I kind of, uh how to put this, want to *belong* to Claudia Black?
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Oct 31, 2018 20:35
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Oh man here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCNDdlCo4rA
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Oct 31, 2018 20:42
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Being a Showtime show for the first few seasons and them figuring out the tone of the first seaaon was fun. SURPRISE full frontal nudity!
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Himuro posted:Any pet theories? what happens on the holodeck stays on the holodeck
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Baronjutter posted:It's a delight. The first season they're finding their legs and seems overly serious and trying to be more like the movie. But once the show finds its legs and the characters are established it's a fantastic little series. I'd say the things SG1 did best, and they're things few to none had done at the time: -Visiting hundreds of alien woods that look suspiciously like forests in British Columbia. In all seriousness one of the things I loved about the show was seeing humans stealing and acquiring all this alien tech, and advancing from where we are to a galactic power over the course of the show.
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Tom Guycot posted:-Visiting hundreds of alien woods that look suspiciously like forests in British Columbia. Um sometimes it looks like an arid desert quarry area in BC!! Or a brutalist university campus in BC! Or the botanical garden. Or that old-timey-village tourist trap they filmed like 3 primitive culture worlds in. Scifi is hard to watch when you intimately know Vancouver...
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If you're looking for a Trek-like show to pick up, you could do a lot worse than SG1. They really nail the whole "likeable characters solving problems together in extraordinary circumstances" dynamic e: honestly it has the occasional lovely episode and I think it does have a noticable peak but the series is never as consistently lame as Voyager, for example
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SG1, minus the last 2 stupid Ori seasons, is a perfect sci fi show that has a start and a finish that wraps things up nicely. They really, *really* shouldn't have done those extra 2 seasons and just focused on atlantis instead.
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All I know about Stargate is that when I was a poor college student I signed up to model for an erotic fiction zine and my pictures accompanied a story that was Stargate: Atlantis slashfic with the serial numbers filed off. (The scientists had to sync their pulses and biorhythms in order to operate a mysterious alien artifact. Also someone's sleeping bag fell in the lake and they had to share, oh noooo...)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdyHJNMFziI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1jSGib-NA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=808KWl4Lhyg
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wizzardstaff posted:All I know about Stargate is that when I was a poor college student I signed up to model for an erotic fiction zine and my pictures accompanied a story that was Stargate: Atlantis slashfic with the serial numbers filed off. Omg that's amazing
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wizzardstaff posted:All I know about Stargate is that when I was a poor college student I signed up to model for an erotic fiction zine and my pictures accompanied a story that was Stargate: Atlantis slashfic with the serial numbers filed off. It’s always amazing when I’m reminded the kinds of things that existed (sub-sub-genre exclusive magazines that is) before the internet broke everything. Fuckin lol
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bull3964 posted:Being a Showtime show for the first few seasons and them figuring out the tone of the first seaaon was fun. SURPRISE full frontal nudity! SUPRISE nudity was why I was grounded for a week. Watched the premiere Showtime made movie everything was copacetic then my mother walks in right when they stripe the women and put her in the sarcophagus. Got such and rear end whooping for watching "porn" fml
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Remember that episode where O'Neill and Teal'c are stuck in a time loop, and for Teal'c the beginning of each loop is getting hit in the face with a door by some dweeb, and one time he just slams it back on the poor bastard? That, but Tuvok and Neelix.
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That's the funniest episode
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Himuro posted:Any pet theories? Neelix
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I like the episode of SG-1 where they encounter a warrior race of non-whites that happen to strongly resemble an old earth culture we all admire. Despite their sexist and barbaric culture, the team needs something from them so has to jump through their cultural hoops. In the end the short-haired blond woman has to fight to the death but manages to get the upper hand and shame the local primitive sexist non-white culture. Same writer!
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SardonicTyrant posted:Remember that episode where O'Neill and Teal'c are stuck in a time loop, and for Teal'c the beginning of each loop is getting hit in the face with a door by some dweeb, and one time he just slams it back on the poor bastard? I loving love that episode!! 
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I remember posting this a few months ago when it was being talked about, but they had their first successes! https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/10/spinal-cord-stimulation-allows-three-paralyzed-men-to-walk-with-assistance/ Several centuries early!
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jeeves posted:The best part of First Contact for me is how completely separate the characters are for either side of the plot. Frakes and crew have no idea the Borg have captured anything up there for the entire film until the end. It would be interesting to see an edit (you'd have to stick in a few storyboard scenes to make it work) where First Contact is just split up into two unconnected episodes of TNG Season 8.
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Senor Tron posted:It would be interesting to see an edit (you'd have to stick in a few storyboard scenes to make it work) where First Contact is just split up into two unconnected episodes of TNG Season 8. I'd kind of like to see that for all the TNG movies TBH (except for Nemesis because who has time for that)
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bull3964 posted:Being a Showtime show for the first few seasons and them figuring out the tone of the first seaaon was fun. SURPRISE full frontal nudity! Apophis's approving eyebrow waggle when they strip Shau'ri slays me every time.
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SG-1 and Atlantis are better than most of Trek. Easily better than Voyager and Enterprise. Probably better than TNG. That first episode of SG-1 though is really terrible. I like how the show constantly makes fun of it's bad choices later on. We have a thread if you want to nerd out about it as you watch through it. Zesty fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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SG-1 is also a good show to watch after Voyager because there's a few episodes that have the same concept as some Voyager episodes but they're usually done better in SG-1.
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I avoided SG-1 for a while because I'd caught occasional episodes and they were all Trek plot rehashes so I figured that's all it was. It does retread a lot of Trek plots but is still good and worth watching.
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