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Yeah, Big Mouth is good. Doesn’t mean everybody has to like it. But it’s good.
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It's not a masterpiece or anything but decently entertaining. Though I am slightly embarrassed at how funny I find Ricky. There's just something about his voicework that just tickles me. The voices are pretty good in general, David Thewlis needs to do more voice acting.
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Nov 1, 2018 22:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5YeOc0N6Ao Well this trailer doesn't go where you expect it to
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Nov 2, 2018 00:06
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Macaluso posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5YeOc0N6Ao oh i get it "da skies"
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Nov 2, 2018 00:21
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Macaluso posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5YeOc0N6Ao does that count as body horror?
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Nov 2, 2018 01:37
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Macaluso posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5YeOc0N6Ao I would be totally underwelmed for this except the origin is a short film called 'Pigeon Impossible' by a guy named Lucas Martell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjUAnPc2VA Lucas graduated from music school but at some point decided he was gonna make a short animated film and spent 5 years learning everything required to do it by himself. And now it's getting adapted as a feature film. That kind of singular vision and work ethic, even if it's about something silly like a spy vs a pigeon, is impressive. Glad he's been successful.
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Nov 2, 2018 02:02
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Ccs posted:I would be totally underwelmed for this except the origin is a short film called 'Pigeon Impossible' by a guy named Lucas Martell This is pretty drat cool. Also, Tom Holland, Will Smith...I'm ready for this. It may not be the best animated movie of 2019 but it looks fun and that's pretty much how I felt about Rio 1 and 2 so yeah.
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Nov 2, 2018 04:53
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Ccs posted:I would be totally underwelmed for this except the origin is a short film called 'Pigeon Impossible' by a guy named Lucas Martell They should have led with that, a bad pun would get me on your side way quicker than "an animated film about a spy WAIT GOTCHA he's a stupid-looking bird now!"
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Nov 2, 2018 04:58
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"pigeon impossible" would probably breach copyright, which is as strong an argument as any against copyright
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Nov 2, 2018 09:27
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Macaluso posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5YeOc0N6Ao Oh look, another animated movie with a POC protagonist that gets transformed into a cute animal so movie-goers don't have to be vaguely uncomfortable about watching a not-white protagonist, but the company still gets credit for being so progressive. whoop whoop. Let's just put it in the pile with Princess and the Frog and Mother Bear and Emperor's New Groove.
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Nov 2, 2018 10:19
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paradoxGentleman posted:Oh look, another animated movie with a POC protagonist that gets transformed into a cute animal so movie-goers don't have to be vaguely uncomfortable about watching a not-white protagonist, but the company still gets credit for being so progressive. whoop whoop. Let's just put it in the pile with Princess and the Frog and Mother Bear and Emperor's New Groove. oh no!
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Nov 2, 2018 10:28
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paradoxGentleman posted:Oh look, another animated movie with a POC protagonist that gets transformed into a cute animal so movie-goers don't have to be vaguely uncomfortable about watching a not-white protagonist, but the company still gets credit for being so progressive. whoop whoop. Let's just put it in the pile with Princess and the Frog and Mother Bear and Emperor's New Groove. uh what
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Nov 2, 2018 10:52
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Look, I've noticed a trend in Disney (actually I think it was pointed out somewhere in this thread that this happens) so seeing the same exact thing happen again bothers me. e: also the movie I was thinking about was Brother Bear not Mother Bear. Whatever.
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Nov 2, 2018 11:15
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ishikabibble posted:So the Netflix animated comedy "Big Mouth" came up in conversation and I had to look up images from the show to prove a point about how godawful repulsive it looks and uh I think the AV club has a rule against rating anything lower than a B+.
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Nov 2, 2018 13:07
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paradoxGentleman posted:Oh look, another animated movie with a POC protagonist that gets transformed into a cute animal so movie-goers don't have to be vaguely uncomfortable about watching a not-white protagonist, but the company still gets credit for being so progressive. whoop whoop. Let's just put it in the pile with Princess and the Frog and Mother Bear and Emperor's New Groove. That's exactly what I was thinking, but couldn't articulate what was bothering me while watching the trailer. "Man, I really would rather have watched the movie without the twist, it seems a little... unpleasant." Yeah, that specific scenario does seem to happen quite a lot. Also he should at least be a black pigeon but that's just aesthetic coherence rather than anything problematic. Also also, his lips being so high and close to his nose kinda grosses me out, but that's just character design I guess.
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Nov 2, 2018 13:52
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SolarFire2 posted:I think the AV club has a rule against rating anything lower than a B+. Really? I've seen so many Cs and Ds from them, and they have a ridiculous rule about never awarding A+s. But I haven't read them in a few years so maybe they've become soft in the meantime.
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Nov 2, 2018 14:55
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Big Mouth may be ugly. It's also gross at times. But it is good. The second season especially.
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Nov 2, 2018 14:57
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paradoxGentleman posted:Oh look, another animated movie with a POC protagonist that gets transformed into a cute animal so movie-goers don't have to be vaguely uncomfortable about watching a not-white protagonist, but the company still gets credit for being so progressive. whoop whoop. Let's just put it in the pile with Princess and the Frog and Mother Bear and Emperor's New Groove. I'm not sure David Spade could be any whiter if he tried.
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Nov 2, 2018 16:25
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The pigeon thing is a huge disappointment. The spy fantasy has always been cartoonish, and realizing it in CGI without jokes and gags like Despicable Me works fantastically. The spy action part of the trailer would have been great for a full hour. pigeon part feels like they feel like CGI is for kids and they cannot sell this without funny animals. Pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels a little cheated with seeing action scenes that are that good and then getting at last second that it's probably all we'll see of them in the movie. Doubt that they turned him into a pigeon because he's black. It's cgi Will Smith, he sells movies. Hell, my first thought was "Is this a Men In Black reboot or something". Whatever, glad the guy gets to make his dream... pigeon... movie. But I don't want to watch a pigeon movie, I want to watch spy movie.
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Nov 2, 2018 18:34
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I agree, Double 0 Smith is better than pigeon shenanigans.
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Nov 2, 2018 19:13
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ishikabibble posted:So the Netflix animated comedy "Big Mouth" came up in conversation and I had to look up images from the show to prove a point about how godawful repulsive it looks and uh Big Mouth does what it's trying to do well, and that is to be an adult gross out comedy with progressive themes. It's not for everybody, but it you're into that kind of stuff then you should probably check it out. paradoxGentleman posted:Oh look, another animated movie with a POC protagonist that gets transformed into a cute animal so movie-goers don't have to be vaguely uncomfortable about watching a not-white protagonist, but the company still gets credit for being so progressive. whoop whoop. Let's just put it in the pile with Princess and the Frog and Mother Bear and Emperor's New Groove. I understand what, you're getting at, but it seems a little unfair to lump Emperor's new groove in there. Yes, Kuzco is turned into a llama, but Pacha stays human the entire time and is just as much of a POC protagonist as Kuzco, which is to say "ambiguously brown and from a fantasy kingdom that vaguely resembles both Peru and the Aztec empire". Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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Nov 2, 2018 19:41
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paradoxGentleman posted:Look, I've noticed a trend in Disney (actually I think it was pointed out somewhere in this thread that this happens) so seeing the same exact thing happen again bothers me. Yeah, Mother Bear was about the Scots.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:47
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Pocahontas and Mulan didn't get turned into animals.
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Nov 3, 2018 02:43
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Moana also didn't get turned into an animal. Lilo either but apparently Hawaii hates Lilo and loves Moana so...
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Nov 3, 2018 03:59
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I was hoping that the pigeon aspect is just a gag sequence in the film, with the general premise being Spy Shenanigans with over the top gadgets. But if it turns out the elevator premise is 'Spy turns into bird', then my enthusiasm is deflated.
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Nov 3, 2018 04:13
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Whatever, glad the guy gets to make his dream... pigeon... movie. But I don't want to watch a pigeon movie, I want to watch spy movie. I mean, technically, it's a spy movie that has the main character become a pigeon, since pigeon movies are not a genre, so I imagine there will be spy movie things happening, just being done by a pigeon. But yeah this does feel more like the premise of an Animaniacs series than it's own movie.
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Nov 3, 2018 07:03
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I understand what, you're getting at, but it seems a little unfair to lump Emperor's new groove in there. Yes, Kuzco is turned into a llama, but Pacha stays human the entire time and is just as much of a POC protagonist as Kuzco, which is to say to say "ambiguously brown and from a fantasy kingdom that vaguely resembles both Peru and the Aztec empire". Alright, fair. Pacha is as much as a protagonist in Emperor's New Groove as Kuzco is. I retract that particular point. Ghost Leviathan posted:Pocahontas and Mulan didn't get turned into animals. ThermoPhysical posted:Moana also didn't get turned into an animal. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Nov 3, 2018 |
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Nov 3, 2018 14:24
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Hahaha, this is the second avatar that someone buys me out of spite. I wonder how many am I going to accumulate over time?
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Nov 3, 2018 14:27
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I mean, technically, it's a spy movie that has the main character become a pigeon, since pigeon movies are not a genre, so I imagine there will be spy movie things happening, just being done by a pigeon.  
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Nov 3, 2018 14:29
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ThermoPhysical posted:Moana also didn't get turned into an animal. Wait, I thought it was Japan that hated Lilo. Hawaii too? What reason do they have? Edit: looking around way more people were upset about Moana than Lilo, I think you might have this backwards. Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Nov 3, 2018 |
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I was about to say, I'm pretty sure when this thread mentioned a country, state or territory hating Lilo but loving Stitch, it was Japan. Something about how her lashing out in frustration as a coping mechanism for her parents' deaths isn't being the ideal little girl who should keep it all bottled up (which strikes me as incredibly unhealthy to force upon a kid who recently lost both her parents, but thaaaaaat's different cultures for you), which makes her terrible, or something. Meanwhile, Stitch is hilarious, more Stitch please.
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Nov 3, 2018 17:54
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paradoxGentleman posted:Hahaha, this is the second avatar that someone buys me out of spite. I wonder how many am I going to accumulate over time? Joke's on them because Sleepaway Camp's funny as hell and that particular actress is the best part.
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Nov 3, 2018 22:16
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I mean, technically, it's a spy movie that has the main character become a pigeon, since pigeon movies are not a genre, so I imagine there will be spy movie things happening, just being done by a pigeon. From what I saw in the trailer, the pigeon stuff feels like a waste of a perfectly good Will Smith. Shadow Hog posted:I was about to say, I'm pretty sure when this thread mentioned a country, state or territory hating Lilo but loving Stitch, it was Japan. Something about how her lashing out in frustration as a coping mechanism for her parents' deaths isn't being the ideal little girl who should keep it all bottled up (which strikes me as incredibly unhealthy to force upon a kid who recently lost both her parents, but thaaaaaat's different cultures for you), which makes her terrible, or something. Meanwhile, Stitch is hilarious, more Stitch please. Say what? Japan had their own anime series based on Lilo and Stitch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch!
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Nov 3, 2018 23:16
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paradoxGentleman posted:Hahaha, this is the second avatar that someone buys me out of spite. I wonder how many am I going to accumulate over time? It's not spite, that's just the punishment avatar everyone who failed the October horror challenge received.
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Cockmaster posted:From what I saw in the trailer, the pigeon stuff feels like a waste of a perfectly good Will Smith. that's the point - Japan loves Stitch, but they don't like Lilo very much.
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Nov 4, 2018 02:53
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I finally had a chance to watch that pigeon trailer and I, too, lost interest when the cool spy turned into the pigeon. I wanna watch the cool spy. I don't know what the story would be, but bring back the cool spy. Maybe Army of Darkness him so he can be cool in the Middle Ages, but now he has to learn to deal with this goddamn demon magic nonsense? I don't know. Show me a man stepping seamlessly into a drifting car and ignoring an explosion behind him for 90 minutes.
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Nov 4, 2018 03:50
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paradoxGentleman posted:Moana is what I'd consider a step in the right direction. Same goes for Lilo and Stitch. Although I do wonder why people from Hawaii don't like it. Beachcomber posted:Wait, I thought it was Japan that hated Lilo. Hawaii too? What reason do they have? I remember an article that someone wrote after talking to Polynesian people and Hawaiians right after Moana came out. A lot of them didn't like Lilo and Stitch and said Disney just didn't understand their culture and made Lilo some weirdo and a few were offended by her. They all preferred Moana to Lilo and Stitch in how it was a love-letter to their culture where as Lilo and Stitch was just "weird girl who just happens to be Hawaiian finds an alien. Hilarity ensues.". Some even seemed really pissed at Disney for Lilo and Stitch.
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Nov 4, 2018 05:15
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A lot of people seem to be upset that Lilo has issues and isn't the 'perfect' little girl. Hell, I remember my sister saying she hated the movie because of how Lilo was acting up She'd been watching it with her young son so that might've been a factor.
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A lot of people have no empathy and will only really discover it when something truly unspeakably horrible happens to them.
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