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| Video games (sincere) |
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44 | 10.89% |
| Video games (ironic) |
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14 | 3.47% |
| Video games (the mod) |
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74 | 18.32% |
| Video games (but only for my platform of choice) |
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10 | 2.48% |
| Video games (but only the one game I play) |
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13 | 3.22% |
| Video games (but only the ones I played as a kid) |
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17 | 4.21% |
| Family, friends, your job, the forum (sincere) |
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38 | 9.41% |
| Family, friends, your job, the forum (ironic) |
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14 | 3.47% |
| Bowsette |
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117 | 28.96% |
| That this Bowsette meme seems to be dying |
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63 | 15.59% |
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https://twitter.com/Fallout/status/1058358148233355264al-azad posted:I haven't really played an FE game so what makes it stand out for you beyond like Tactics Ogre? I would say the most interesting implementation I've seen in an SRPG is some game whose name I can't even remember (Sword Queen Something???) where to attack you actually move through enemies so there's a lot more tactical depth than walking up on someone's flank to smack them. The emphasis is on speed and maneuverability which works perfectly for a Game Boy Advance game.
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Nov 3, 2018 00:32
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Nothing can ever be as bad as Gears of Funko Pop and that EPIC ESPORTS MOBILE GAME SHOUTCAST from this year's e3
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Nov 3, 2018 00:32
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Bethesda really tries hard to make people hate them sometimes.
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Nov 3, 2018 00:34
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I've always imagined being a marketing exec is really easy because it apparently doesn't really matter what you do
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Nov 3, 2018 00:36
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just only announce phone games forever
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Nov 3, 2018 00:40
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them FFT
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Nov 3, 2018 00:42
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them Master of Monsters, the game that would most directly inspire Battle of Wesnoth. Similar heavy RNG to what wesnoth would do later, but the aesthetic is very strong. great visuals on all the weird monsters you can summon, and great music.
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Nov 3, 2018 00:42
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imo the only srpg you need is the stragtegy battles from suikoden 2. the one where all your hit rates are <30% and enemies' are all >70 because of a math error
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Nov 3, 2018 00:46
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4
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Nov 3, 2018 00:49
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Jay Rust posted:FFT no Venuz Patrol posted:Master of Monsters, the game that would most directly inspire Battle of Wesnoth. Similar heavy RNG to what wesnoth would do later, but the aesthetic is very strong. great visuals on all the weird monsters you can summon, and great music. I don't know anything about Wesnoth so this doesn't really help me much Really Pants posted:Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 4 I've played VC1 and plan to play 4. It hits two other notes that I forgot to mention in my effortpost: objective-based maps, and unique characters instead of generics
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Nov 3, 2018 00:50
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The Moon Monster posted:I'm pretty ambivalent about piranha plant being a playable character, but does Nintendo think that people like Petey Piranha? DO people like Petey Piranha? I was actually thinking about this a day or so before the announcement, for reasons I can't remember. Upon people first talking about it, I thought it was Petey piranha and was totally uninterested. Then I watched it and saw it was a literal potted plant and was immediately stoked because it's just such a dumb idea that is perfect for Gamemaster Anthony's Birthday: The Game.
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Nov 3, 2018 00:52
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What about Vandal Hearts 2, the SRPG where both your units and the enemies move at the same time I'm sure there are other strategies but I'd leave one unit with their back turned to my foes in a very obvious bait, then move someone to attack the empty spot behind them while they got out of there.
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Nov 3, 2018 00:52
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Poops Mcgoots posted:Upon people first talking about it, I thought it was Petey piranha and was totally uninterested. Then I watched it and saw it was a literal potted plant and was immediately stoked because it's just such a dumb idea that is perfect for Gamemaster Anthony's Birthday: The Game. The part in the Direct where they were like "all these other characters from those other games will be in here as spirits trapped in the other universe" made me think about that
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Nov 3, 2018 00:54
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cheetah7071 posted:I haven't actually played Tactics Ogre. It has the same basic system as FFT right? in the way characters move and do actions, but the job systems and such are very different. the remaster on the PSP is an incredible game
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Nov 3, 2018 00:55
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them Ogre battle: march of the black queen and ogre battle 64. Mix of pausable real time strategy manuever and then effectively turn based squad on squad combat. I don't think any srpg's have tried it again since the 90's (though a few pc wargames have sorta done similar without rpg mechanics) Really, I would like to see it done with fewer squads than either of the ogre battle's did but more fine control over squad combat
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Nov 3, 2018 01:02
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An actual good SRPG I'd recommend would be Soul Nomad, which I think is the last one I finished back when I still had my Ps2 because I never had much patience for the genre.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:04
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them
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Nov 3, 2018 01:05
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Wasn't Code name STEAM supposed to be pretty decent
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Nov 3, 2018 01:05
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grieving for Gandalf posted:in the way characters move and do actions, but the job systems and such are very different. the remaster on the PSP is an incredible game I really wish every turn based game would implement rewind. Most people are going to quicksave/load, just let me do it naturally you cowards! So yeah I don't know if I would be in love with Fire Emblem because it seems more strategy than tactics. Even though you're moving single units one by one, a big part I look for in the genre is the importance of like terrain and moving around a 3D map. Tactics Ogre takes this to the extreme where seemingly innocuous things like the terrain you're standing on influences magic, but even in FFT I love manipulating the turn tracker. "How cute, you're casting fire on me, I'll just walk in between your healer and share the damage."
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Nov 3, 2018 01:05
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them Front Mission 1, 3 or 4 Yggdra Union Gungnir
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Nov 3, 2018 01:06
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Fire Emblem is cool and good cause it's more like a board game imo Valkyria chronicle 1 is insanely good
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Nov 3, 2018 01:06
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There's also the Overlord games if you want something real-time, but they're not at all like Fire Emblem or FFT. They're more like a mix of Pikmin and Fable.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:08
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Are SRPGs a Japan-only phenomenon?
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Nov 3, 2018 01:08
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them - Jagged Alliance 2 (get version 4870 of the 1.13 fanpatch, the devs went full retard after that one) - Silent Storm - X-Com '94 - X-Com '12
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Nov 3, 2018 01:09
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Jay Rust posted:Are SRPGs a Japan-only phenomenon?
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Nov 3, 2018 01:11
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Those feel very different to me
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Nov 3, 2018 01:13
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I think I’ve played every NIS SRPG since Disgaea 1 but Phantom Brave was the only one I beat. Probably because the leveling exploits are more intuitive.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:13
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I really like Makai Kingdom, but probably largely due to it being a huge mess
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Nov 3, 2018 01:16
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Jay Rust posted:Are SRPGs a Japan-only phenomenon? Most western approaches are more Advance Wars and less fire emblem, i.e. de-emphasizing rpg mechanics in favor of more pure strategy (apart from those imported from tabletop like space hulk) I'm pretty sure ds advance wars outsold ds fire emblem in the west, while the reverse was true in japan. That said there's still several with actual rpg mechanics, like fantasy general, jagged alliance, xcom, and silent storm Myriarch fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 3, 2018 |
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Nov 3, 2018 01:17
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Jay Rust posted:Those feel very different to me
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Nov 3, 2018 01:18
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Master of Magic was really good iirc Most of the Heroes of Might and Magic games are also super good
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Nov 3, 2018 01:20
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like no one was calling the SSI gold box games "SRPGs" at the time because they just played like tabletop D&D, it was nothing special, but pool of radiance and the buck rogers games and stuff totally fall in line with SRPGs spiritually IMO
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Nov 3, 2018 01:21
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Oh goodness how could anyone forget Heroes of Might and Magic, especially III, which is quite literally the best game ever made by anyone ever. Darn it precision I type too slow
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Nov 3, 2018 01:24
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i have never played a homm game nor do i know what they are
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Nov 3, 2018 01:24
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cheetah7071 posted:also, go ahead and lay SRPG recs down on me I know I haven't played a lot of them You like Valkyrie Profile 2, right? Did you ever try Covenant of the Plume?
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Nov 3, 2018 01:25
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al-azad posted:I really wish every turn based game would implement rewind. Most people are going to quicksave/load, just let me do it naturally you cowards! I would actually say FE leans almost exclusively on tactics, not strategy. My favorite maps all emphasize within-map strategy (as opposed to between map strategy that you'd get with things like skill trees or whatever) but the meat of the game is turn by turn tactics because the correct strategic move is usually obvious. You're rarely at a loss for what your short term goal is.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:28
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Phantasium posted:You like Valkyrie Profile 2, right? Did you ever try Covenant of the Plume? Yeah and I like it a ton
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Nov 3, 2018 01:29
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I played HOMM after King's Bounty and preferred the latter. If you're including those types of games I thought the Expeditions games were pretty good
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Nov 3, 2018 01:30
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homeless snail posted:like no one was calling the SSI gold box games "SRPGs" at the time because they just played like tabletop D&D, it was nothing special, but pool of radiance and the buck rogers games and stuff totally fall in line with SRPGs spiritually IMO Yeah and those hold up surprisingly well though they're pretty anemic w/r/t class and spell options The Dragonlance ones are the best Heroes of MM 3 is the best but man I played the poo poo out of the game boy color port of 2
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Nov 3, 2018 01:31
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In the tabletop world there's a distinct difference between strategy and tactics. Tactics is smaller scale, usually individual units, with a focus on terrain and individual details. XCOM and Jagged Alliance would be tactical games. Strategic level games are on a larger scale where the focus is more on logistics and formation involving a number of diverse units that typically represent a larger unit like a squad or battalion e.g. Advance Wars and Daisenryaku. Then you get hybrids like Ring of Red which is a strategy game but battles are played out at a tactical scale where movement and unit composition becomes important. There are a lot of Western tactical games that blend RPG elements, but the strategy RPG really is more of a phenomena in Japan. Maybe it's because Western games were influenced heavily by wargames like Squad Leader which carried on into Laser Squad/XCOM.
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Nov 3, 2018 01:32
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