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Paradoxish posted:For the show, yeah, but not so much for the mission. The idea of the D running around from planet to planet never made a whole lot of sense and ship seemed more suitable as a kind of mobile starbase that could set up shop somewhere and do real long term exploration/science/diplomacy. The idea was that it'd be there to handle absolutely anything right away and then the Federation could send in a follow up mission for long-term shop-setting-up once they'd had a chance to get that mission together. It'd be a waste to park it for too long because once you could replace it with a specialised mission you should get it out there handling something else. But then we never really saw it doing its other big mission, which was the ability to just gently caress off out of Federation space for years on end and be totally self-sufficient. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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I feel like the Ent-D should have had a fleet with it, or even just space built in for larger, deployable craft. Like, they'll drop a team of scientists off on some planet somewhere with nothing except some equipment, maybe a shuttle which can do like warp 1. They already kinda had the saucer, which makes more sense as something you could leave in orbit for, like, science stuff while the drive section does other tasks.
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Nov 4, 2018 17:45
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They were meant to have runabouts, but we only ever saw them once. Or the Captain's gig, but we never saw that either. And hell, they could've fitted a few ships two or three times the size of a runabout in bay one no problem, which would've made plenty of sense to have for dropping teams off with for a while. They kinda tried to rectify it on Voyager with the Aeroshuttle but never used it.
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Nov 4, 2018 17:48
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MikeJF posted:The idea was that it'd be there to handle absolutely anything right away and then the Federation could send in a follow up mission for long-term shop-setting-up once they'd had a chance to get that mission together. It'd be a waste to park it for too long because once you could replace it with a specialised mission you should get it out there handling something else. Yeah, I get what the show creators were going for, I just mean that the size of the ship as presented and the hotel-in-space aesthetic never made it seem like a rapid first responder. It was like a carrier group showing up somewhere for a day and then just loving off. Especially when you consider the fleet of shuttles it was supposed to have in a massive hanger bay (that we were never shown) that only really make sense on a ship that's supposed to be doing long term operations.
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Nov 4, 2018 18:15
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I think, like the saucer seperation, the budget was a big issue there.
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Nov 4, 2018 18:17
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Stock footage, though. That's why they shot the saucer seperation in the pilot, they knew it would be extremely expensive to do in some random episode later on and might never be done if they didn't do it right away.
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Nov 4, 2018 18:29
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It always makes me laugh that on one hand Farpoint had the saucer separation sequence, but meanwhile the camera following Picard through Engineering in the very second shot is being dangled over the first-floor handrail by a piece of string
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Nov 4, 2018 18:49
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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I guess everyone's favorite genocidal RealDoll designer has decided to leave his self-imposed exile. http://realestate.boston.com/buying/2018/11/03/star-trek-house-listed-5-7-million/
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Nov 4, 2018 19:02
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Inferior Third Season posted:I guess everyone's favorite genocidal RealDoll designer has decided to leave his self-imposed exile. If it doesn't include a Triumph TR7, I will be disappointed.
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spincube posted:It always makes me laugh that on one hand Farpoint had the saucer separation sequence, but meanwhile the camera following Picard through Engineering in the very second shot is being dangled over the first-floor handrail by a piece of string Paramount got lucky and happened to catch ILM when they were between jobs, as ILM gave them a surprisingly low bid on the work. Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Stock footage, though. That's why they shot the saucer seperation in the pilot, they knew it would be extremely expensive to do in some random episode later on and might never be done if they didn't do it right away. The original idea was to do a big block of new library shots before the show started and in between seasons, cut exterior sequences around them as needed, and buy an "occasional" episode-specific shot from Image G. This plan fell apart basically immediately after production started, although I think nearly every exterior of the Enterprise from Arsenal of Freedom is Farpoint footage.
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Nov 4, 2018 19:31
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How many 1-in-a-billion transporter accidents happen with O'Brien on the controls? He's doing it on purpose
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I think one of my favorite transporter jokes is Babel when Odo needs to get to some docking nasty quick and Quark says he'll transport him. "Don't worry, I served on a mercantile vessel for seven years" Odo steps on transporter pad. Quark, poo poo eating grin "I've witnessed the procedure many times!" Pushes the switches
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Nov 4, 2018 19:56
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Especially when they go to the sol system, it should be thick with traffic. Like, managed lanes within the system, traffic controllers on patrol, interdictors to stop unauthorized travel on the fringes. Yeah, space is big, but common destinations will be packed pretty tight. This year, only nine teenagers with brand-new shuttlecraft licenses managed to kill themselves attempting Titan's Turn. That's a big decrease. I guess those new educational PSAs (the ones that play before your holodeck program starts, warning you not to try Felicium even once, or to scan both ways before beaming into the street) are working.
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HD DAD posted:“Captain, I’m receiving reports of three Commander Rikers roaming the ship” “At the rate the Rikers are multiplying, my calculations show that the entire ship will be pregnant in 36 hours, 14 minutes, fift—“ “Yes, Mr. Data”
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Nov 4, 2018 20:16
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I don't know if I ever noticed this lol
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Al Borland Corpse posted:I think one of my favorite transporter jokes is Babel when Odo needs to get to some docking nasty quick and Quark says he'll transport him. Agreed, that was hilarious.
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Nov 4, 2018 20:32
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Pinterest Mom posted:I don't know if I ever noticed this lol
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Pinterest Mom posted:I don't know if I ever noticed this lol It just be like that sometimes
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Nov 4, 2018 20:58
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Those little blurb boxes are all kinds of fun for starting drama.
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Nov 4, 2018 21:05
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Of course TOS had an episode with a native tribal princess
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PostNouveau posted:Of course TOS had an episode with a native tribal princess Have you ever heard the targ cry to the blue leola-root moons?
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Nov 4, 2018 21:28
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Wait wait wait, the planet Amerind? Really?
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Nov 4, 2018 21:59
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Wait wait wait, the planet Amerind? Really? Yes, because they were American Indians, see? Look, it wasnt that great an episode.
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That's TOS third season for you
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PostNouveau posted:Of course TOS had an episode with a native tribal princess As opposed to Voyager, which had
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Tighclops posted:As opposed to Voyager, which had
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Paradoxish posted:For the show, yeah, but not so much for the mission. The idea of the D running around from planet to planet never made a whole lot of sense and ship seemed more suitable as a kind of mobile starbase that could set up shop somewhere and do real long term exploration/science/diplomacy.
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Whalley posted:Or TNG, with Wesley's 'triumphant' final episode Ah yes, the episode so on-the-nose about Native Americans getting forcibly relocated that it featured actual Native Americans getting forcibly relocated. And also Magic Indians.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Wait wait wait, the planet Amerind? Really? The planet wasn't named onscreen, at least.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Ah yes, the episode so on-the-nose about Native Americans getting forcibly relocated that it featured actual Native Americans getting forcibly relocated. And also Magic Indians. *synth panflute music*
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Payndz posted:Maybe the Ent-J finally got to fulfil the dream of the Federation having a ship that was basically a Culture GSV. Although really it should have a name like USS Making It So, Bitch. Captain Jesse Pinkman commanding, yo
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Tighclops posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuMyfI_WM7E I checked out one of those Midnight’s Edge videos once and it was all about how Discovery is bad because it panders to the evil SJWs, so gently caress that guy.
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I didn't see that in this video aside from a snide "go woke go broke" title card which made no sense in context, if he has he must be pandering to the comments section because holy gently caress is it bad like I don't understand how twisted your mind has to be to watch that show and think "Yes. Feminists are why this is bad" or why anyone that stupid would have any interest in something like star trek there are people out there that got seriously excited about warp particles and got all uncomfortable when the show asked them to think about anything, these are the people that cry the loudest so even if CBS under new managment listens, ahahah a haha
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Reminder that there tons of libertarians and republicans who love Star Trek but completely tune out any and all subtext and morality lessons, even when the episodes bash you over the head with them
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Reminder that there tons of libertarians and republicans who love Star Trek but completely tune out any and all subtext and morality lessons, even when the episodes bash you over the head with them They probably watch it like "I sure am excited to watch the TV show Space Adventure" "oh boo quit preaching politics and get back to space adventures" "pew pew pew, oh yeah, incinerate that Cardie"
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I'm rewatching TNG S3 and its a shame Tomalak didn't get to be a bigger recurring enemy, he's great in both of his appearances but after this we see a hologram of him once then nothing till All Good Things.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Reminder that there tons of libertarians and republicans who love Star Trek but completely tune out any and all subtext and morality lessons, even when the episodes bash you over the head with them Maybe the fact that some episodes really bash you over the head is the problem. (Well, no, the problem is that some people are asshats. But bear with me.) Could this be a symptom of the same head-in-sand approach to what constitutes “legitimate” racism and sexism that we see elsewhere? “Microaggressions aren’t real, the only thing I’ll accept as racist is a burning cross planted by someone saying the n-word with video footage.” ....is something you might hear from someone who says... “Star Trek had a good lesson about racism with that episode about the half white half black people, but this new show with a black woman character is just pandering to SJWs.”
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I just watched Parallels for the first time, and it's instantly a top 5 TNG episode for me. Disheveled, bearded Riker was genuinely upsetting. Also it's really nice to see a Worf episode that isn't about Klingon politics or Alexander.
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Maybe they watch it like the federation is America and they go around outsmarting every kooky alien foreigner
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