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Time to end this discussion as this is not the place to have it.
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Your avatar is depressingly appropriate for ending this conversation
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Oct 15, 2018 03:19
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Good episode tonight. I’m glad Oliver took the time to focus on our hosed-up relationship with Saudi Arabia.
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Oct 15, 2018 04:46
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Guys... Was it just me, or did John look legitimately nervous during his whole Saudi Arabia spiel? I don't want anything to happen to him. 
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Oct 15, 2018 08:46
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Lol at the pig
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Oct 15, 2018 10:08
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Milo and POTUS posted:Lol at the pig Yeah, no idea what he was on about Armstrong.
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Oct 15, 2018 10:10
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This episode had the most epic deadpan deliveries of "cool" ever.
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Oct 15, 2018 13:16
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Stare-Out posted:Yeah, no idea what he was on about Armstrong. Isn't it wrong anyway? For some reason I've always thought Aldrin planted the flag because Armstrong had the camera. Not that Trump being wrong about something would be a surprise in any way, but still
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Oct 15, 2018 13:32
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The Right tried to make a big deal that there was no money shot of the flag on the moon in that Armstrong biopic that came out. It's a typical culture war non-controversy controversy. John Oliver didn't mention one bit about the Saudis I found a little bit chilling, which was they might have had a hand at getting Rex Tillerson sacked. (To be fair, this piece is a bit speculative, and Tillerson obviously had a shaky relationship with Trump to begin with.)
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Oct 15, 2018 14:42
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webmeister posted:Isn't it wrong anyway? For some reason I've always thought Aldrin planted the flag because Armstrong had the camera. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure there actually was a quite a lot of Neiling going on during the moon landing. 
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Oct 15, 2018 17:38
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Perestroika posted:Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure there actually was a quite a lot of Neiling going on during the moon landing. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you monster. I love it.
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Oct 15, 2018 17:46
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Echo Chamber posted:The Right tried to make a big deal that there was no money shot of the flag on the moon in that Armstrong biopic that came out. It's a typical culture war non-controversy controversy. Not that I disagree that it’s a nonissue but did the director even mention why they didn’t include it? I mean yeah it is really easy to read as jingoistic but it’s also a really iconic image of the event.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:03
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Jingoistic may be too harsh of a word as to why it wasn't included. But yeah, the director wanted to emphasize the accomplishment for mankind to echo Armstrong's words. Focusing on the flag undercuts that a bit.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:15
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Yeah, I think the point was the right wanted a nationalistic movie that went "U-S-A!" and they were actually trying to make an apolitical film and make it about "a giant leap for mankind". So naturally people saw that as a political statement.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:24
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Perestroika posted:Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure there actually was a quite a lot of Neiling going on during the moon landing. That's such a John Oliver joke that I'm honestly surprised they didn't do it
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Oct 15, 2018 23:36
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DaveWoo posted:Good episode tonight. I’m glad Oliver took the time to focus on our hosed-up relationship with Saudi Arabia. I imagine the comedy focus afterwards was them trying to leave the episode on a happy note.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:37
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I'm fine with that then and even finer with them doing it every week because let's be honest, we need it
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Oct 15, 2018 23:40
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I think the point was the right wanted a nationalistic movie that went "U-S-A!" and they were actually trying to make an apolitical film and make it about "a giant leap for mankind". So naturally people saw that as a political statement. I mean, it is a political statement. A decent one.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:53
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TheBizzness posted:Shoving E pulls up your butt is called parachuting you crazies. parachuting is when you wrap something in toilet or tissue paper and drop it down your throat so you don't taste whatever is in there. boofing is putting the drug up ur butt. I had no idea either of these were obscure terms at all but I guess I hang out with drug people a lot
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Oct 16, 2018 04:39
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I’ve spent some time around drugs and never heard the term boofing in my life. It’s all regional like anything else vernacular related .
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Oct 16, 2018 05:21
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Honestly I think I preferred John Oliver's hair before he ctrl-v'd a generic business haircut onto his head. The Saudi monarchy is in many ways shaped by how back in around WW1, the Saudis were the radicals, as compared to the other state which was in contention for control of the Arabian peninsula wich was backstabbed by European "allies". It's really creepy just how well their monarchy can blend with the kelptocrats and corporations. Just another little reminder of how the path we're on is leading us back towards feudalism.
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Oct 17, 2018 01:38
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https://twitter.com/TerriIrwin/status/1052349180255981569
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Oct 17, 2018 02:55
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That ending song was better than the one they use in the intro.
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Oct 29, 2018 12:20
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John tried his best to prepare me for the video they were about to show. I still wasn't prepared. Now I'm sad and angry and I want to post today's episode as a response to every tweet Trump makes.
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Nov 5, 2018 09:02
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Jamesman posted:Now I'm sad and angry and I want to post today's episode as a response to every tweet Trump makes.
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Nov 5, 2018 09:09
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Love Stole the Day posted:That'll show 'em! That's basically what John Oliver does already; what new passive-aggressive video can we put online or on TV that Trump won't care about anyway.
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Nov 5, 2018 09:16
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Wow, he was upset and angry as gently caress after that video. It was hard to watch that clip, especially as a parent of young kids
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Nov 5, 2018 09:20
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Haven't seen the episode yet, now I'm curious as gently caress
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Nov 5, 2018 10:26
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God forbid anyone itt actually votes
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Nov 5, 2018 10:29
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Love Stole the Day posted:God forbid anyone itt actually votes I'm voting tomorrow, but I don't think it's gonna matter because every other house I pass has a sign out front for Republicans (and I'm in a blue state). I just meant I wish a video like that would actually be seen by Trumpsters and they would actually feel some kind of shame and regret, especially a day before they might go out and vote Red. But sadly, I'm pretty sure they just see stuff like this, dismiss it as fake news, or proudly proclaim how much they love triggering Libs by destroying families. Duzzy Funlop posted:Haven't seen the episode yet, now I'm curious as gently caress Tonight's episode reviewed Trump's stance on immigration and how he separated kids from immigrant children and put them into cages. He showed a clip of the traumatic effects it had on one kid as an example. Jamesman fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Nov 5, 2018 |
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Nov 5, 2018 10:42
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"Well if his parents hadnt illegaled then this wouldntve happened now would it  "
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Nov 5, 2018 13:59
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:"Well if his parents hadnt illegaled then this wouldntve happened now would it The frustrating thing is that this is legitimately the reasoning for a lot of people who support it. It's like that crazy conservative lady who tweeted about how going to a Democratic rally made her actually entertain the notion that her children might actually deserve universal health care and schooling...and then she shook off that delusion, because it's her decisions that determine how her children turn out. A lot of these people just see these kids as invisible casualties of their parents' choices, not as living breathing children who deserve protection regardless of who their parents are.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:11
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Every one of them motherfuckers families immigrated to this country and just cause it was a lot easier back then they think nobody else should have the opportunity. This country is gigantic and we need immigrants.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:31
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:"Well if his parents hadnt illegaled then this wouldntve happened now would it That's exactly what I've seen people say. And then you have that woman in the clip last night. "I don't have a problem with immigration, so long as they do it legally." -"Uh, they ARE doing it legally." "...Then I hope Trump changes the law." It's such blatant racism and it's disgusting how we just accept it and treat it as a fair and reasonable opinion.
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Nov 5, 2018 21:46
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Didn't one of the guards have AIDS
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Nov 5, 2018 21:49
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This country is gigantic and we do need immigrants, but it’s worth discussion of... 1, whether those immigrants should be so strongly weighted to the unskilled labor category. America has it’s own home grown class without high school diplomas; and you see a lot of support for unskilled labor immigration from college educated people in skilled positions who won’t be competing with these people for jobs. 2, whether countries that can reach us by land crossing deserve to be treated differently than those who can’t. None of that excuses child prisons, of course. I don’t want to get too deep into it but I do feel a lot of the “more immigrants now” whites are economically advantaged people who aren’t negatively affected by a huge surplus of unskilled labor. To me the biggest missed opportunity in US immigration was the Syrian refugees; many of them spoke English and had trade skills. But our Islamophobes got in the way.
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Nov 5, 2018 21:51
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A lot of the unskilled jobs immigrants take are jobs you literally can't pay people enough to do, they're hardly stealing are jerbs. Look at the crop picking jobs in California
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Nov 5, 2018 21:54
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You actually can pay people enough, but companies don’t want to. It’s a labor exploitation/corporate greed issue. And ideally immigrants are here legally because they’re getting protections on wages and labor law. Please don’t buy into the old “we need a permanent underclass of exploited workers” bullshit from the Dubya years.
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It's an ethnic cleansing. I feel like that needs to be said, because that's the effect and that's the intent. The idea of a "deterrent" for people coming to the US, land of opportunity, is nebulous at best. They just want the people gone and want to enact violence upon them to punish them for existing. It's not a coincidence these people are all intermingling with white nationalists and adopting fascist tactics. It is only the saving grace of what's left of American values permeating the system keeping them from actually enacting violence, so they're limited to more soft genocide tactics: Destroy families to destroy the people. Craptacular! posted:Stuff There are valid arguments that can be made about the way our country exploits the immigrants that come in here, and even uses the threat of deportation to prevent them from asserting their rights as humans (like how Trump built his tower), but sadly there's no room for that sort of nuance when there are people who are pushing for policies of extermination that must be stopped for the sake of humanity. The whole deal of undocumented immigrants being exempt from human rights and labor laws and there being no option but to deport them is poo poo, but the fact that explicitly legal immigrants have been declared illegals is such a loving violation. There's an ungodly amount of paperwork that follows asylum seekers around, they're not undocumented, they're just an easy target because they don't know their rights and often lack community support.
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SlothfulCobra posted:It is only the saving grace of what's left of American values permeating the system keeping them from actually enacting violence, so they're limited to more soft genocide tactics: Destroy families to destroy the people. Yes. The language of it is in many respects closer to the cultural genocide behind Native American "re-education" or the Australian Aboriginal "stolen generation." "These brown savages are also unfit parents." It's too late for all the MS-13 rape-gang teenagers, but it's a tragedy that these poor children are being corrupted by their own culture. All the sympathy theater behind officials' discussion of the policy lands there. "I don't hate children. It's just such a shame they're being forced into this situation." ICE doesn't *want* to separate them from their families, but they *have* to because of their criminal parents. It's literally the same bullshit as a century ago.
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