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vyelkin posted:In every single one of those options the self-driving car should drive itself into a ravine to avoid hitting any of them. Oh there were lots of "kill occupants/kill pedestrians" choices, but the idea was that's not always an option so what should it do given these two choices Cats rightly are always chosen as victims, I did my part and voted to always take out anyone who looked above median income
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I like that just 'stroller' is at the top. So basically to cause a gigantic pileup all you need to do is launch an empty stroller across the roadway, lmbo. It's especially funny given how specific some of the other stuff is. Like it can tell if you're a doctor or not but can't determine if a stroller is empty or not.
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What if a cats in the stroller. Putting the question out to the people is interesting. But the actual inputs into any trolley lever software problem are going to come from the insurance industry, who already knows how much you are personally worth to society compared to others.
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vyelkin posted:In every single one of those options the self-driving car should drive itself into a ravine to avoid hitting any of them. but what if the car is a stroller full of large pregnant homeless intersexual criminal puppies???
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Raldikuk posted:So basically to cause a gigantic pileup all you need to do is launch an empty stroller across the roadway, I mean, I think if you did that today with no self driving cars that would still happen.
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As far as I can tell the only definition they ever give of who counts as a "criminal" is someone jaywalking (in most of the scenarios they just say "criminals" with no explanation of how the self-driving car knows those people are criminals). So either we've collectively decided that jaywalking is now a capital offence or we've collectively decided that self-driving cars are omniscient or we've collectively accepted that self-driving cars are going to be as racist as every other techbro algorithm. In any case if a self-driving car sees a little girl jaywalking while pushing a cat in a stroller I expect it to just spontaneously explode.
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SiKboy posted:I mean, I think if you did that today with no self driving cars that would still happen. Car AI vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps-v-kZzfec&t=395s *beep boop* avoid: children, women, men, horses, soldiers, cossacks #¤% *beep beep beep* stroller detected FOCUS ON STROLLER
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I like that "large" people are less valuable than executives.
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Never leave home without a stethoscope and a head mirror.
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Get a self-driving stroller and become invincible. Drive down the centre of the street if you want.
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Executives are criminals so they should be way below cats.
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 Carry this with you to attract any self-driving car.
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First Law of Auto-robotics: A self driving car must not injure a dog or cat, or through inaction allow a dog or cat to come to harm. Second Law: Save the humans, I guess, if you feel like it. (But it's fun to watch the fat ones ricochet off the hood. Just sayin'.) Third Law: Strollers are worth extra points, aim for them.
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It's pretty funny that they think Fox News has higher standards than CNN.
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I object to those partisanship assessments, the Financial Times is communist propaganda
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I like the Atlantic but lol at it being the pinnacle of in depth complex journailsm
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Dave Grool posted:I like the Atlantic but lol at it being the pinnacle of in depth complex journailsm What are the best sources of really in depth journalism? I already read the Economist and like it but I really want more of the same quality or better.
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I like the Atlantic to laugh at David Frum. Beyond that I do like a lot of their articles and series but they don't do a ton of really in depth articles. Their article that reprinted a bunch of MLK's letters was cool though.
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Count Roland posted:What are the best sources of really in depth journalism? I already read the Economist and like it but I really want more of the same quality or better. Vox is somewhat variable in quality, but their best articles are very good. They're one of the best sources I've seen for health reporting. Bloomberg didn't make the chart for whatever reason, but their long-form reporting is incredibly solid. They just don't really do a lot of it. Edit: That's not the latest version of that particular graphic. Here's an updated one: 
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Yeah I basically have a mental list of journalists I can't stand/trust and a list I can/do. Almost anywhere can publish a real trashy number by a total hack.
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I find it interesting that Buzzfeed didn't make the chart considering they do a lot of pretty important journalistic work. They also do a shitload of terrible clickbait so maybe they just couldn't figure out where to put them.
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I mean, the chart was made by a complete idiot, so there’s that.
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Count Roland posted:What are the best sources of really in depth journalism? I already read the Economist and like it but I really want more of the same quality or better. I dunno about "best" but I like Pro Publica and sometimes Mother Jones. Mother Jones is pretty openly partisan and they send annoying, overly dramatic fundraising e-mails, so I don't read them as much but they have good investigative pieces. They paid a reporter to go be a private prison guard for a couple months. Dave Grool has a new favorite as of 07:07 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I find it interesting that Buzzfeed didn't make the chart considering they do a lot of pretty important journalistic work. They also do a shitload of terrible clickbait so maybe they just couldn't figure out where to put them. buzzfeed is right under huffpo
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learnincurve posted:Anyone who thinks the BBC is anything but biased towards the right, and puts on the guardian but misses off the telegraph is a Conservative without realising it. They put the Daily Mail as "skews slightly conservative".
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Tenebrais posted:They put the Daily Mail as "skews slightly conservative". lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI (It belongs in the empty space below The Blaze.) Bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_neSA7J92dw
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learnincurve posted:Anyone who thinks the BBC is anything but biased towards the right, and puts on the guardian but misses off the telegraph is a Conservative without realising it. Tenebrais posted:They put the Daily Mail as "skews slightly conservative". I suppose you could chalk the BBC's position on the chart up to the original creator being from the US, where the overton window is right enough that the BBC might come across as "skewing liberal" for admitting climate change exists. But if that's the case I have no idea why the mail isn't right next to fox news, even by US standards it's a real piece of poo poo.
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I like that Natural News started out far left then was moved to leans conservative. Global warming denial seems pretty far right to me. I'm guessing it's the stereotype of the liberal hippies promoting all the new age pseudoscience woo woo. Nope, plot twist, their politics are also ignorant as all gently caress!
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I warms my heart that there are people in this world who have not heard of Michael Gove.
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learnincurve posted:I warms my heart that there are people in this world who have not heard of Michael Gove. it fills mine with envy
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:it fills mine with envy Mine with water glasses
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Dave Grool posted:I dunno about "best" but I like Pro Publica and sometimes Mother Jones. Mother Jones is pretty openly partisan and they send annoying, overly dramatic fundraising e-mails, so I don't read them as much but they have good investigative pieces. They paid a reporter to go be a private prison guard for a couple months. Yeah that was the only thing I've read from Mother Jones, and it was fantastic. They were on my bookmark list for a while after that, but I took them off again for some reason. Maybe I'll try it again. You know, what I'd really like is a sort of news-roundup program. I've seen various outlets do things like this, basically go over newspaper headlines in their region to get a birds-eye view. Newspaper x takes a hard line, paper y is more moderate, TV channel z is moderate except for a commentator who is off the rails, and so forth. But its usually a quick skim without going deeper than a few choice quotes. I'd love a, podcast, or something, where people go over say American political media once a fortnight and spend 30 minutes highlighting the good the bad and the ugly. Or if there's some website that showcases the best journalism of that month.
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The rightward march of Natural News.
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steinrokkan posted:The rightward march of Natural News.  (yes, that is a Gab share button)
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steinrokkan posted:The rightward march of Natural News. I prefer the rightward march of HillaryIs44
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ultrafilter posted:Vox is somewhat variable in quality, but their best articles are very good. They're one of the best sources I've seen for health reporting. https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1049773254414622723
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