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friendly 2 da void
Mar 23, 2018

Travic posted:

Anyone have some good articles about voter suppression of African Americans? I want to beat someone over the head with them.

CNN is ok, but avoid it if possible. If CNN said the world was round he wouldn't believe it.

I know everything is instant in the Twitter age but the election ended less than 12 hours ago.

It's going to take real time for people to investigate what actually happened and then write stories. Give the poor journalists at least a day

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Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


mcmagic posted:

You can't just assume that all the factors that make this race closer this time: the Democratic hatred of Trump and base activation paired with a great candidate at the top of the ticket like Beto. 4% might just be the Dem ceiling.

Not if 4% of Boomers die off. Not to be morbid, but that's really what it comes down to: just waiting for the Olds who have decided to be evil and racist until their last breath to finally crumple into dust.

I live in Texas, I can confirm that large portions of the youth population want things to change, it was always just a waiting game of continuing to get democratic/liberal/socialist ideas out there while also out living the evil that has taken up residence in our nursing homes. Last night was kind of exciting, for me at least, because it showed I won't have to wait to out live as many of them as I thought. It'll be a lot shorter for 4% of them to expire, with a final slur spoken through their wrinkled lips, than like 20% of them.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Your Taint posted:

Trump's face is two different colors. It's much lighter on his temples near his ears.

Any model builder can tell you you have to have highlights or the end build looks too flat

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Democrats flipped 350 state legislature seats last night.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...gn=the-atlantic

this had a link to a good site, http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/statevote-2018-state-legislative-races-and-ballot-measures.aspx

seven state legislatures flipped (six net: Alaska flipped D->R):

CO Senate R->D
CT Senate tied->D
NH Senate R->D
NH House R->D
MN House R->D
ME Senate R->D
NY Senate* R->D

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I know no one here wants Biden to be the nominee for many very good reasons. But how would you feel about a Biden/Beto ticket?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

The same qanon who thought last night that Trump had fatally betrayed them by failing to keep the House?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Bicyclops posted:

I'm trying to be optimistic about this. Like, yes, the Dems took the House, but goddamn, so much of this seems like the bare minimum of what we could have expected. I'm happy that Walker is out, that Maine really repudiated LePage, that MA voted yes on 3, etc. etc. The Senate was probably always going to go this way, where we lost a couple of seats, but I really could have used Steve King losing, or Gillum winning, or Iron Stache winning, or Beto. I was really hoping for at least one impressive upset. It feels like if this is the best we can do in a climate where the GOP has almost gone out of their way to make the party associated with incompetent, angry greed, that things are going to swing rapidly back when we have someone halfway competent bearing their standard.

It makes a difference having taken the House, it does, but it still feels like we have to be super cautious going forward, and that this actually doesn't bode well for 2020.

It was an good night for Dems beyond the House. They flipped a healthy number of state legislatures and governorships, which is huge because it means they can start to un-gerrymander in more states. Pennsylvania is a model of what that will look like: after the courts threw out the awful Republican map and forced them to draw a more neutral one, Dems swept into power there this election. The state pickups are huge and arguably in many ways more important than the House gains, particularly in the Midwest. Florida also just laid the groundwork for 40% of their African American population to be re-enfranchised as well. Basically the states that gave Trump his narrow path to victory in 2016 are bucking the trend (except Ohio I guess, and gently caress them).

Be happy, things went well.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Your Taint posted:

Trump's face is two different colors. It's much lighter on his temples near his ears.

That's because he probably does his make-up himself, but doesn't bother blending because that would be unmanly

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Your Taint posted:

Trump's face is two different colors. It's much lighter on his temples near his ears.

half assing his spray tan.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

evilweasel posted:

this had a link to a good site, http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/statevote-2018-state-legislative-races-and-ballot-measures.aspx

seven state legislatures flipped (six net: Alaska flipped D->R):

CO Senate R->D
CT Senate tied->D
NH Senate R->D
NH House R->D
MN House R->D
ME Senate R->D
NY Senate* R->D

we should give alaska back to russia

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Trump: "I don't know who Lil John is:

Jake Tapper: https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1060234033764818944

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

FizFashizzle posted:

half assing his spray tan.

The can ran out halfway through but the button only summons diet cokes so there was nothing to be done about it

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I know no one here wants Biden to be the nominee for many very good reasons. But how would you feel about a Biden/Beto ticket?

No, Biden sucks

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I know no one here wants Biden to be the nominee for many very good reasons. But how would you feel about a Biden/Beto ticket?

With the understanding biden only serves one term.

If we're doing this, I'd rather it be something like Bernie/Abrams.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

enraged_camel posted:

my theory is that they secretly love it when he shits himself in front of everyone

It can distract from more inconvenient or embarrassing stories

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Ditocoaf posted:

Who's ready for Democrats to champion a return to normalcy and decorum and not champion any remedies for rampant voter suppression and nonrepresentation?

Why not wait till literally anything happens before you start this up again?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Sydin posted:

It was an good night for Dems beyond the House. They flipped a healthy number of state legislatures and governorships, which is huge because it means they can start to un-gerrymander in more states. Pennsylvania is a model of what that will look like: after the courts threw out the awful Republican map and forced them to draw a more neutral one, Dems swept into power there this election. The state pickups are huge and arguably in many ways more important than the House gains, particularly in the Midwest. Florida also just laid the groundwork for 40% of their African American population to be re-enfranchised as well. Basically the states that gave Trump his narrow path to victory in 2016 are bucking the trend (except Ohio I guess, and gently caress them).

Be happy, things went well.

Oddly it appears that the PA court didn't require them to un-gerrymander the state legislature, and Republicans control both chambers of the state legislature.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I know no one here wants Biden to be the nominee for many very good reasons. But how would you feel about a Biden/Beto ticket?

I don't think Biden or Hillary would be a good option for President when they're already divisive enough as they are.

I'm 100% cool with a Beto for pres ticket though.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Democrats flipped 350 state legislature seats last night.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...gn=the-atlantic

Republicans can point to the senate and hoot "NO WAVE!!!" all they want, they've got to know they're in trouble.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Sydin posted:

It was an good night for Dems beyond the House. They flipped a healthy number of state legislatures and governorships, which is huge because it means they can start to un-gerrymander in more states. Pennsylvania is a model of what that will look like: after the courts threw out the awful Republican map and forced them to draw a more neutral one, Dems swept into power there this election. The state pickups are huge and arguably in many ways more important than the House gains, particularly in the Midwest. Florida also just laid the groundwork for 40% of their African American population to be re-enfranchised as well. Basically the states that gave Trump his narrow path to victory in 2016 are bucking the trend (except Ohio I guess, and gently caress them).

Be happy, things went well.

people forget the lesson the gop knows: the real power really is in the states, because if you have them long enough then you can't lose anywhere else

big boi
Jun 11, 2007

https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1060234445259595776

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Framboise posted:

I don't think Biden or Hillary would be a good option for President when they're already divisive enough as they are.

I'm 100% cool with a Beto for pres ticket though.

I don’t think Beto can handle being on the top of the ticket though.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

This is actually poetic justice. :eng101:

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Framboise posted:

I don't think Biden or Hillary would be a good option for President when they're already divisive enough as they are.

I'm 100% cool with a Beto for pres ticket though.

I don't know about president Beto actually getting approved by anyone outside of Texas... but goddamn VP Beto would be incredible

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Also the democrats can't have just two white dudes anymore on their ballot.

They've got to be POC, female, not necessarily together.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Republicans posted:

Republicans can point to the senate and hoot "NO WAVE!!!" all they want, they've got to know they're in trouble.

Why do you think Trump is melting down today? He knows things went very poorly for him last night. Not as much as we had hoped but still.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

my bony fealty posted:

McKaskill supported medical weed and the minimum wage and came out saying so. In mealymouthed cautious language of course but saying she opposed them is wrong.

If she had any campaign brains she would have run blazing on "Hawley doesn't want you to have weed or a minimum wage and I do" but she clearly did not and lost for it.

I'm like 80% certain that would've just doomed the measures along with her.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Not spotted it ITT yet but maybe I missed it; AP has called Montana for Jon Tester.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

this is neat

https://twitter.com/EsotericCD/status/1060223912720715776

(texas state courts are an abomination)

friendly 2 da void
Mar 23, 2018

It's disappointing that folks like Steve King didn't lose but he got 50.8% of the vote in 2018, in a blood red Republican district

In 2016 he got 61%

He's shook. Going down in 2020 :getin:

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Your Taint posted:

Trump: "I don't know who Lil John is:

Jake Tapper: https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1060234033764818944

They all look the same to him.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Why do you think Trump is melting down today? He knows things went very poorly for him last night. Not as much as we had hoped but still.

His aides probably started slipping benzos in his Diet Coke around the time returns started coming in, and he's only now realizing what happened

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

corn in the bible posted:

I don't know about president Beto actually getting approved by anyone outside of Texas... but goddamn VP Beto would be incredible

Yeah, I can't see him even trying to turn a Senate loss into a presidential nomination, but I think he'd be an excellent VP pick. He's been awesome at supporting downticket candidates, organizing, and delivering a strong message, which are all things a good VP can do to have a big impact.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Crow Jane posted:

I watched The Running Man for the first time recently, and while it is not a good movie at all, I couldn't help but see Trump all over it

That movie has two former Governors in it.

Piell posted:

No, Biden sucks

Anita Hill is going to be fresh in everyone's memories again after the Kav hearings. Biden should probably stick to the sidelines and champion whoever the candidate is.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

friendly 2 da void posted:

It's disappointing that folks like Steve King didn't lose but he got 50.8% of the vote in 2018, in a blood red Republican district

In 2016 he got 61%

He's shook. Going down in 2020 :getin:

he will probably remember to actually campaign in 2020 instead of stealing every dollar he raises in donations

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Why not wait till literally anything happens before you start this up again?

Sorry. I'm was feeling hopeful leading into the election, which is good because hope drives votes, but I can't maintain it at the moment. I'd love it if I'm proven wrong.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

evilweasel posted:

Oddly it appears that the PA court didn't require them to un-gerrymander the state legislature, and Republicans control both chambers of the state legislature.
Their super-majority in the senate was broken though, which means Wolf can at least veto any particularly egregious poo poo they come up with.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Ditocoaf posted:

Sorry. I'm was feeling hopeful leading into the election, which is good because hope drives votes, but I can't maintain it at the moment. I'd love it if I'm proven wrong.

i'm starting to suspect that at least some of the people who say "i'd love it if i'm proven wrong' would, in fact, not

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Harrow posted:

Yeah, I can't see him even trying to turn a Senate loss into a presidential nomination, but I think he'd be an excellent VP pick. He's been awesome at supporting downticket candidates, organizing, and delivering a strong message, which are all things a good VP can do to have a big impact.

I wonder if one of the front runners will try to lock up a deal with him early and try to win the primary as a package deal?

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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

friendly 2 da void posted:

It's disappointing that folks like Steve King didn't lose but he got 50.8% of the vote in 2018, in a blood red Republican district

In 2016 he got 61%

He's shook. Going down in 2020 :getin:

That's what's so frustrating is how close some of them were! Like, we almost, almost kicked out Ted loving Cruz!

Ah well. The House is going to make both of these years utter hell for Trump.

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