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Geoj posted:Who is insinuating you should devote your whole life to political activism? Nope.
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everdave posted:I have no idea I'd rather stumble drunk back to a hotel but lots of places seem to be like a max of 9 miles away that shouldnt take long in uber right? I know nothing about New Orleans I haven't been in ages but 9 miles could take a long time if there's traffic. It took us 2 hours to travel a few miles in LA.
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Nov 7, 2018 20:14
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MomJeans420 posted:Volunteer and then refuse to send those annoying spam texts a-loving-men. I hate all the junk mail mailers and texts from the last few weeks. Luckily I don't watch much TV besides netflix so I wasn't bombarded with ads there, too. Applebees Appetizer posted:Close races between doucebags and fucksticks yay where do I sign up While I agree with this to an extent (love the south park "giant douche or turd sandwich" episode(s)), apathy doesn't help improve the situation at all. I didn't vote until 2008 I think but started paying more attention as I've gotten older and even voted in the primary this year for candidates I actually liked (though none of them made the ticket  ).
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Nov 7, 2018 20:18
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Applebees Appetizer posted:As soon as someone that's worth a poo poo comes along I'll vote, until then I'm not going to bother. The choices for Gov and Senate in FL were extremely clear cut and sometimes you vote for the person who's less bad because they're less bad.
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Nov 7, 2018 20:28
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Suburban Dad posted:a-loving-men. I hate all the junk mail mailers and texts from the last few weeks. Luckily I don't watch much TV besides netflix so I wasn't bombarded with ads there, too. yeah, the libertarian dipshits that make a bad cartoon that should have ended 15 years ago are definitely who you want to listen to for political advice, because there's literally no difference between an openly white supremacist party and one that is not - both sides send you paper in the mail you can literally throw away without even looking at, so both sides ARE roughly the same.
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Suburban Dad posted:a-loving-men. I hate all the junk mail mailers and texts from the last few weeks. Luckily I don't watch much TV besides netflix so I wasn't bombarded with ads there, too. It's got nothing to do with apathy, I just don't like any of them so I'm not voting. Wrar posted:The choices for Gov and Senate in FL were extremely clear cut and sometimes you vote for the person who's less bad because they're less bad. The lesser of two evils argument is something I don't buy into either. I have a choice, so I choose not to vote when I'm not happy with any of the candidates.
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I'm going to choose to starve to death because this hamburger you're giving me has no cheese on it.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It's got nothing to do with apathy, I just don't like any of them so I'm not voting. At least vote 3rd party or against the establishment then. Let your vote show your displeasure with the current state of affairs. You might one of hundreds of thousands of votes, and it can seem like it doesn't matter, but remember that the 2000 and 2016 presidential elections were won by just a few thousand votes in key states I'm a hardcore socialist, no American candidate will adequately represent my views. As far as I can tell, there will never be one in my lifetime, but I will support the least capitalist, least oligarchical candidate I can. If nothing else, my vote will show that a voter is dissatisfied with our insane libertarian economic, civic, and environmental policies
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everdave posted:Hate to ask more questions but is it worth it to pay a lot more and stay near French Quarter / Bourbon Street or in the day and age of uber is it ok to stay by airport? We are talking about hundreds of dollars difference (New Orleans) Stay near Frenchman street if you can - it's way better than Bourbon and doesn't smell quite as strongly of piss. Lots of great live music.You can walk to Bourbon and check it out, but it wasn't really my scene. I'd spring for a place close personally - it's really nice to be able to walk/stumble back to your airbnb etc. if you need to take a break, use the restroom, whatever. Also seriously don't miss the WWII museum in the business district/downtown, it's incredible.
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The Door Frame posted:no American candidate will adequately represent my views. As far as I can tell, there will never be one in my lifetime, but I will support the least capitalist, least oligarchical candidate I can. If nothing else, my vote will show that a voter is dissatisfied with our insane libertarian economic, civic, and environmental policies This, along with "we really loving need preferential voting". But we'll never get it because the only people who can implement it are those who stand to lose. Unrelated: I think I'm starting to get a few too many sideways glances when I'm banging away on my Model M in the cube farm at work. I was slightly tempted to buy a keyboard with some Chinese Blue switches (I have one at home and like it well enough) but then remembered that it's really not that much quieter. Are there any options these days that are as close to the feel of an M as possible, but without anywhere near as much noise?
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Ether Frenzy posted:I'm going to choose to starve to death because this hamburger you're giving me has no cheese on it. I'm gonna choose to drink piss because I'd rather not eat poo poo......Oh wait I don't have to do either? Sweet.
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Nov 7, 2018 20:58
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I'm gonna choose to drink piss because I'd rather not eat poo poo......Oh wait I don't have to do either? Sweet. Closer to "someone is going to throw either piss or poo poo into my face, I can try to pick which one would be less awful for myself" IOwnCalculus posted:This, along with "we really loving need preferential voting". But we'll never get it because the only people who can implement it are those who stand to lose. loving any voting system besides first past the post would be a marked improvement
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Nov 7, 2018 21:12
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I'm gonna choose to drink piss because I'd rather not eat poo poo......Oh wait I don't have to do either? Sweet. You don't have to choose which, but you're still getting force-fed one or the other.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:12
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Well it appears Utah chose a middle aged upper middle class white man over a black woman for congress. The race is too close to call just yet so it will be Thursday or Friday before it is official. both choices were terrible tbh and while having personally met and known McAdams I hope the Washington machine doesn't swallow him whole because he is actually a decent person Utah also chose for better access to medicinal marijuana (also not proposed for what actually needs to be done) but I have strong feeling that the Utah state gov't will bork it all up in no time and what actually needs to be done will be botched up as per usual. High turnout for voting though. So that is good.
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Fo3 posted:Florida, texas and georgia disappoints, as always. E: and missouri IIRC. One of our local TV stations gets PBS news hour every day so they have access to their broadcasts already. They devoted 9am-1pm (my local time) to their mid-terms election coverage special. We also like to put election days on weekdays to minimize worker turnout. Though early voting has minimized that a bit. Beto lost by only 150K votes, or about 2.4%. I apologize for us inflicting "Human, no, really!" Cruz on America again. I don't know how well compulsory voting would fly in the US, to be honest, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. Ironocally, I'm sure someone would complain about the lack of freedom to not vote. Would be better if there were a "non of the above" option. Fender Anarchist posted:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gillum-targeted-new-racist-robocall-florida-governor-race-n923406 What in the actual gently caress. It angers me beyond words that the Trump administration is making these filth feel safe and bold enough to come out of the dunghills. Fender Anarchist posted:god i want to pound people's faces and i hate that i want that I hate that, as far as I can tell, sometimes that appears to be the only viable remedy, not just for this. Fender Anarchist posted:^^I started hormones on monday so I doubt there's been time for that yet. Got a long-time friend who started transiti for the second time - they backed out of the first time a few years ago due to fears of family and friend disapproval. I'm happy to say that I'm one of the friends that was told with no such fears. They're going full bore with the hormones and such this time, and it's really loving with (now) her mental state. Self-worth issues and such. Rhyno posted:Everyone here supports you. We're a bunch of disfunctional assholes but at least none of us are racist bigots. Get the gently caress out of there for your own health and safety. What he said. Applebees Appetizer posted:No it's not. I choose not to vote and wouldn't appreciate being forced to do it. The question then becomes: if you don't participate in the state, are you entitled to the protections of it? QuarkMartial posted:Now I'm seeing all this stuff about if you don't like the results to organize and all that poo poo. And lovely politicians count on that. Most of us are far too busy just actually living and making enough money to eat and not be out in the rain, to actually afford the time to truly understand most issues and legislation. That's why stuff gets distilled down to sound bites and hot-buttons. The rich better watch their asses, though. When you get enough people out of work and/or dissatisfied, they suddenly have enough time to think about stuff, and then do something about it. Applebees Appetizer posted:It's got nothing to do with apathy, I just don't like any of them so I'm not voting. That's why we need the none of the above option. IOwnCalculus posted:You don't have to choose which, but you're still getting force-fed one or the other. Also because of that. edit: oog. Sorry so big.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I'm gonna choose to drink piss because I'd rather not eat poo poo......Oh wait I don't have to do either? Sweet. People fight and die in actual guns & bullets wars over their right to vote, but you do you. I'm sure your wages being stagnated for the last 30 years under republican governance will sort itself out if you just keep having this very sophisticated opinion of an activity that grownups partake in in every other advanced western nation in the world.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Are there any options these days that are as close to the feel of an M as possible, but without anywhere near as much noise? Never used an M but I've been really happy with my two Logitech gaming mechanical keyboards (I have one at work and one at home) that use their own proprietary "romer-g" switches. Nice tactile feedback but relatively quiet and without a spring "boing" when you release the key. No custom keycaps if that's a thing you're into though.
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Darchangel posted:That's why we need the none of the above option. So what would happen if that was actually the highest vote-getter? As it stands now, "I choose not to vote" is functionally the same as "I vote for whoever more people vote for".
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Ether Frenzy posted:yeah, the libertarian dipshits that make a bad cartoon that should have ended 15 years ago are definitely who you want to listen to for political advice, because there's literally no difference between an openly white supremacist party and one that is not - both sides send you paper in the mail you can literally throw away without even looking at, so both sides ARE roughly the same. Show me on the doll where South Park touched you. Oh my this hot take. Yes, I don't like garbage propaganda and thought they had a funny episode where the choices were less than ideal. Neither impacts how I vote so I don't get what you're all fired up about.
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"Hot take" is a new term, true, but I don't think it means what you think it means. Actively believing right-wing talking points about democratic candidates because it's easier than actually becoming educated on the tangible differences between party platforms is the "hot take".
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Nov 7, 2018 21:48
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Suburban Dad posted:Show me on the doll where South Park touched you. South Parks "EVERY SIDE IS BAD" was dumb the day it came out and it's far worse with actual Nazis walking the streets now.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:South Parks "EVERY SIDE IS BAD" was dumb the day it came out and it's far worse with actual Nazis walking the streets now. Even the south park creators seem to have acknowledge that to at least some degree.
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IOwnCalculus posted:You don't have to choose which, but you're still getting force-fed one or the other. Lol yep. Ether Frenzy posted:People fight and die in actual guns & bullets wars over their right to vote, but you do you. I'm sure your wages being stagnated for the last 30 years under republican governance will sort itself out if you just keep having this very sophisticated opinion of an activity that grownups partake in in every other advanced western nation in the world. I served my country, and I'm going to use my grownup freedoms in the country I served, and partake in non voting this year ok. Thanks for your concern tho 
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May or may not be associated with the KKK, ran on a platform that basically consisted of "I'll do whatever Lord Trump commands!"
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Ether Frenzy posted:But his opponent routinely did not "Be kind and rewind" his VHS tapes in the mid-80s, so voting for him is like drinking piss!!!! Chill out.
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If you can't respect a fellow citizen's right to not vote, you should probably move somewhere it's mandatory and stop being a crybaby. How's THAT for a hot take?
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Adiabatic posted:Chill out. Nobody's unchill. I'm just surprised that people in this country throw away something that many citizens in most societies throughout history would have killed people to attain. Like, you're definitely free to not take this $100 bill, for sure. I just don't see why you'd refuse it.
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The Royal Nonesuch posted:Stay near Frenchman street if you can - it's way better than Bourbon and doesn't smell quite as strongly of piss. Lots of great live music.You can walk to Bourbon and check it out, but it wasn't really my scene. I'd spring for a place close personally - it's really nice to be able to walk/stumble back to your airbnb etc. if you need to take a break, use the restroom, whatever. Cool I will look. Not going to be there for 2 days. If nothing else I think I’m going to blow 30k points on this “Eliza Jane” hotel unless I find a decent safe spot close for a good cash price. Also thanks Rhyno
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Ether Frenzy posted:Nobody's unchill. I'm just surprised that people in this country throw away something that many citizens in most societies throughout history would have killed people to attain. Do you think that more people voting is somehow going to increase the quality/"goodness" of the candidates? I don't get what you don't get. Voting is making a choice, just like buying products from one company over another, or getting your pet from a puppy mill or the local shelter. Some people don't like either option, so they just don't get a dog. The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Make it clear you don't like the candidates by still actively participating. An impression of "all these people are quite willing to get out and vote but hate all their current options" might get you better candidates. "All these people can't be arsed" will not.
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would anyone be interested in a thread about that obnoxious car thing drifting
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SquirrelGrip posted:would anyone be interested in a thread about that obnoxious car thing drifting Fuckin yes we would.
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So the newly elected Dems are already talking about bipartisanship on popular issues, like infrastructure. I'm all for that, but they need to frame new programs for what they are. Call it socialism and make Republicans vote for it so it can stop being a dirty word.
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Gingerbread House Music posted:If you can't respect a fellow citizen's right to not vote, you should probably move somewhere it's mandatory and stop being a crybaby. Voting is NOT mandatory even in Australia. What the law requires is for you to attend a polling booth and get your name marked off. You can draw dicks on the ballot paper if you want. You can vote for Lord Buckethead and then let your vote expire. The difference between Australia and the shithole backwater that is most of the USA outside of the coast edges is not wether you have to vote or not. It is that Australia has a real Electoral Commission that ensures fair and free elections, that ensures enough places to vote in places where people are, that both parties are invested in to make sure neither gets an advantage, that also comes up with fair divisions that take no regard of voter split, just an even number of people as possible. It ensures votes are cast secretly, that votes are properly counted and scrutineered openly. Votes that get challenged are taken out and checked by an independant person. It ensures voter intimidation does not take place and if anyone tries suppression tactics they get jail or huge fines. And hence it's generally acknowledged that despite having paper ballots, Australian elections are usually the most open and most honest / fair elections possible. Now part of why that happened is due to mandatory voting but there is also a culture of everyone gets a chance to vote and anyone trying to deny that gets strung up these days. We also have the attitude that if we're gonna vote then we're gonna make it somewhat worthwhile anyway. Hence election booths are at schools and community halls that usually have fetes on the same day so you can go buy old books or other junk arts and crafts, the kids can go bounce on a jumping castle, old Aunt Flo can sell her rasberry jam or of course the now famous DEMOCRACY SAUSAGE SIZZLE where the local Rotary Club or similar will sell you a sausage in a slice of bread with onions and sauce for a buck fiddy so you can eat while deciding which rear end in a top hat to vote for. And hell now they have mobile coffee vans so you get barrista made coffee. Oh and in NSW, my voting registration is attached to my driving license, so not only am I automatically enrolled, it's moved to the right electorate automatically. Until the US voting system is unfucked and made fair, there's no point in mandatory voting. CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Adiabatic posted:Fuckin yes we would. ok I’ll write something up
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Voting is NOT mandatory even in Australia. What the law requires is for you to attend a polling booth and get your name marked off. You can draw dicks on the ballot paper if you want. You can vote for Lord Buckethead and then let your vote expire. What i said has nothing to do with the electoral system in the US. It's about personal liberty.
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The Prong Song posted:Do you think that more people voting is somehow going to increase the quality/"goodness" of the candidates?  If you don't do your civic duty to vote, you don't get to complain about any of the aspects of societal life that are resultant from the decisionmaking processes of the duly elected leaders. That "not complaining" part doesn't happen, so those of us who bother to vote get tired of hearing all the moaning from the non-participants. You're certainly free to not vote all you like, as long as you stick to the rest of the bargain.
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Ether Frenzy posted:
That's not how it works.
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