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Peter Daou Bundy posted:The Democrats are so spineless they won't even fight for the votes they earned, and will let the republicans ran rampant and constantly rig every election. lol, that's how we got president bush. 
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enraged_camel posted:two seats JUST two would be amazing considering how the map looked. For the umpteenth time, the 2020 Senate map is WAY more D friendly. Now they need a good candidate to make sure they drive the right turnout again. God it shouldn't amaze me I guess that FL hasn't become any less of an electoral joke in 18 years but GOD...they couldn't be even a LITTLE less of a joke than this poo poo was in eighteen loving years?
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ratbert90 posted:Guys, I think Acosta assaulted the intern. Video proof: This is some Mel Brooks or Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker tier poo poo right here. 
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Z. Autobahn posted:Just so I'm understanding right, the position now is pro-voter-disenfranchisement so long as it's THEIR voters? Yes, since the Republicans have lowered the bar to this level. Unfortunately, in order to win, we will have to gently caress this chicken.
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:So I gather it is too much to hope we'll know AZ Senate winner tonight or even the weekend sounds like it might take until the 14th unless a mathematically overwhelming lead happens
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ratbert90 posted:Guys, I think Acosta assaulted the intern. Video proof: I don't know why but this made me think of this 
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean, I suppose, but they seem to actually have a decent track record of contesting state level recounts and stuff like this legally. I don’t think it’s comparable to Bush v. Gore at any rate. for people curious, Marc Elias is managing all these recounts and is a really famous (and apparently still undefeated in Supreme Court cases he's argued) lawyer that's run a lot of long recount battles for the democratic party over the last few years his twitter is also surprisingly informative and he's updating about recount-related stuff pretty regularly https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1061034562900451328
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GreyjoyBastard posted:sounds like it might take until the 14th unless a mathematically overwhelming lead happens Yeah, and I’m not even sure they’ll give an update after today’s 5 pm local time update, until Monday. If either opens a large enough lead, then yeah, but McSally is already taking about a legal challenge.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I don't know why but this made me think of this Literally same
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I don't know if y'all are serious or not but you need to gently caress off with this 'disenfranchise republican voters' poo poo. There are a million different ways that we can play dirtier than we do now, this ain't it fam
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Because this thread moves way too fast, here's a Cat Tax I owe you all. Whisky affectionados should appreciate this one. 
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:So I gather it is too much to hope we'll know AZ Senate winner tonight or even the weekend About that https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1061030428453285890
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VH4Ever posted:JUST two would be amazing considering how the map looked. For the umpteenth time, the 2020 Senate map is WAY more D friendly. Now they need a good candidate to make sure they drive the right turnout again. yeah, it was what... 4 or 5 lost seats on tuesday night?
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Still seems highly unlikely McSally can make up those votes with what's out there.
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haha everyone hates this guy, so long as they are not required to say on the record that they hate him https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1061033180088553472
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I don't know why but this made me think of this Same here. 
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OAquinas posted:https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1061022117548814336 They also banned Antifa groups, because of course they did.
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Arturo Ui posted:I don't know if y'all are serious or not but you need to gently caress off with this 'disenfranchise republican voters' poo poo. There are a million different ways that we can play dirtier than we do now, this ain't it fam Basically too much trying to construct a preferred narrative, not enough actual commenting on the news much like....the news. I'm pretty sure people are just shitposting and not actually serious though, much like Chris Cilliza. https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/09/politics/trump-cohen-payments-women/index.html And now your Friday night bomb drop. Cohen officially testifying that Trump ordered him to make the payment of hush money and violated campaign finance laws. So that thing you heard on the tape that sounded like Cohen consulting with Trump and Trump giving the go ahead to pay some people cash to STFU, that's really what happened. Shocking I know. Kale fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Niwrad posted:Still seems highly unlikely McSally can make up those votes with what's out there. Well, a lot of talk was that Maricopa counted the same-day dropped off mail in ballots and few days leading up, first, which favored Sinema. They’re now counting the earlier days which the GOP thinks will favor McSally more. It’s honestly going to be close. I think the earliest mail-in ballots get counted leading up to it, so I’m hoping it’s close to the 50:50 it’s been going with a slight break for Sinema.
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enraged_camel posted:yeah, it was what... 4 or 5 lost seats on tuesday night? The more paranoid fears was 6 but I mean the ones that flipped D to R weren't surprises, right? Heitkamp and McCaskill never had a prayer, Beto was a long shot at best and Nelson has the charisma of a jar of off-brand mayonnaise. If NV and AZ flip with tester hanging on that's as well as most realistically optimistic forecasts had the Dems doing anyway.
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eke out posted:haha everyone hates this guy, so long as they are not required to say on the record that they hate him
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Z. Autobahn posted:Just so I'm understanding right, the position now is pro-voter-disenfranchisement so long as it's THEIR voters? The position is "change the rules of the game, but also win the game."
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VitalSigns posted:Democrats got everything they wanted from that ruling and y'all are melting down because they didn't try "don't count their votes just ours, your honor" on a judge jfc
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If you can be too young to vote, you can be too old to vote.
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Can someone give me a tldr of what is going on in florida? I sorta checked out since tuesday to avoid a stomach ulcer.
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VH4Ever posted:JUST two would be amazing considering how the map looked. For the umpteenth time, the 2020 Senate map is WAY more D friendly. Now they need a good candidate to make sure they drive the right turnout again. Looking at the 2020 map, the Democrats should be able to flip Colorado easily. North Carolina, Montana, Alaska, Arizona, and Maine should be races that Democrats have a decent chance in. Maybe even Georgia if they can keep the momentum. Doug Jones in Alabama seems like the only Democrat that would be in danger.
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Dems did well enough for me to turn away from "lol @ Dems" nihilism. I know it's kind of hosed up that this hinged on them doing adequately but just being honest here. The most effective pragmatic solution to stall Trumps bullshit is to vote Dem, not kooky Green people Still making fun of centrism / triangulation though, in this era it is appropriate
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cr0y posted:Can someone give me a tldr of what is going on in florida? I sorta checked out since tuesday to avoid a stomach ulcer. Short version: there are a lot of uncounted votes that could change the result and the right is doing everything they can to get them thrown out.
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VH4Ever posted:The more paranoid fears was 6 but I mean the ones that flipped D to R weren't surprises, right? Heitkamp and McCaskill never had a prayer The fears about Brown seem particularly justified, considering a statistically significant number of voters split their vote for Brown in Senate and DeWine in Governor, the person they had previously voted against in the 2012 Brown v. DEWine Senate race .
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cr0y posted:Can someone give me a tldr of what is going on in florida? I sorta checked out since tuesday to avoid a stomach ulcer. recounts nelson is getting a hand recount, gillum is getting a machine recount that may-but-probably-won't lead to a hand recount CuddleCryptid posted:Short version: there are a lot of uncounted votes that could change the result and the right is doing everything they can to get them thrown out. this is also useful
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ratbert90 posted:Guys, I think Acosta assaulted the intern. Video proof: This is great. Is it from Kimmel?
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VH4Ever posted:The more paranoid fears was 6 but I mean the ones that flipped D to R weren't surprises, right? Heitkamp and McCaskill never had a prayer, Beto was a long shot at best and Nelson has the charisma of a jar of off-brand mayonnaise. If NV and AZ flip with tester hanging on that's as well as most realistically optimistic forecasts had the Dems doing anyway. The polling was giving a (in retrospect) false sense of security. Heitcamp was toast, but Donnelly and McCaskill looked like they might be competitive at least, and Nelson seemed to be the slight favorite. So Donnelly and McCaskill getting utterly crushed was a bit surprising (though not entirely unexpected), and Nelson not making it was the real loss happening contrary to expectations. Netting -2 is still a really good showing for the map, and Nelson might still eke it out to make it a -1--which would be nigh-unbelievable to anyone a year ago.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Just trying to keep up with the GOP. Lie cheat and steal if you think you can get away with it because everyone else is doing it as well. MSDOS KAPITAL, future wall street banker.
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Niwrad posted:Looking at the 2020 map, the Democrats should be able to flip Colorado easily. North Carolina, Montana, Alaska, Arizona, and Maine should be races that Democrats have a decent chance in. Maybe even Georgia if they can keep the momentum. As I said in the local races thread, the current Governor of Montana is a term-limited Democrat who can run in 2020. There's also the previous term-limited Governor, who theatrically vetoed stupid Tea Party bills: quote:HELENA - In vintage political theater in front of Montana's Capitol, Gov. Brian Schweitzer wielded three red-hot branding irons to burn "VETO" messages on some Republican bills Wednesday as a large crowd cheered him on. Gardner looks like the new Dean Heller. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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gently caress the NRA and their enablers https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1060977811584962560
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:Dems did well enough for me to turn away from "lol @ Dems" nihilism. I know it's kind of hosed up that this hinged on them doing adequately but just being honest here. Well and I think that's needed. It's a favorable map next time, right? All the more reason to make sure they run quality Dems! Tibalt posted:There was decent hope around Heitkamp and Breseden, and reasonable fears around Brown and Manchin. I thought I read somewhere that these Dems trying to run squishy Centrist-type campaigns are the ones that underperformed their polling estimates whereas the more Progressive ones tended to do pretty well against their forecast.
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As a reminder to anybody who doesn't have it, another poster made this nice piece of java script:JavaScript code:Very handy for catching up. I would suggest that this goes into the OP.
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Party Plane Jones posted:It is in the third post. I went two down! 
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