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Nystral posted:You graduated college and still enlisted? That's insane... I did it too, and as an 11B.
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I see all the "kill nobles" talk and I sorta wish I could hear my brother's subordinates' opinion on him. He's a West Point grad who just made captain this year. I think he's a great guy, smart as hell, and I can tell he's well respected by peers and colleagues (the ones he brings around on leave, at least; they seem like good folks too), but still... I'd like to think there are some exceptions 
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Beach Bum posted:I see all the "kill nobles" talk and I sorta wish I could hear my brother's subordinates' opinion on him. He's a West Point grad who just made captain this year. I think he's a great guy, smart as hell, and I can tell he's well respected by peers and colleagues (the ones he brings around on leave, at least; they seem like good folks too), but still... I'd like to think there are some exceptions Enlist and find out
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Tias posted:Enlist and find out I'd prefer not to add more than a minimal amount of content to the thread. He once said "you'd make a good noncom". I've never figured out whether he was loving with me, if it was the hooah pre-Ranger koolaid he'd been quaffing at the time, or if he legit thinks I'd be happy and fulfilled in the service. I'm too chickenshit to gamble 4 years of the very last of my youth to find out. Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Nov 8, 2018 12:33
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Lol he said you’d make a good servant
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_6yq7LFfeg
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Beach Bum posted:He once said "you'd make a good noncom". Those are fighting words
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Beach Bum posted:I'd prefer not to add more than a minimal amount of content to the thread. maybe he meant noncombatant cause you aint got WHAT IT TAKES j/k lmao at that
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Beach Bum posted:I see all the "kill nobles" talk and I sorta wish I could hear my brother's subordinates' opinion on him. He's a West Point grad who just made captain this year. I think he's a great guy, smart as hell, and I can tell he's well respected by peers and colleagues (the ones he brings around on leave, at least; they seem like good folks too), but still... I'd like to think there are some exceptions If he went to a service academy and is a white male he's assisted with at least one sexual assault at minimum.
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Edit: double.
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I knew an Aggie when I was living over in Korea. He had that soft southern drawl that women loving loooooved, and for the most part he was very chill and laid back. He'd usually be the first to crash when we went out partying, hence his nickname of Bedtime. But when he was in a partying mood...you could pour liquor down his throat and he would even flinch. It was impressive. A little scary actually.
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Beach Bum posted:I'd prefer not to add more than a minimal amount of content to the thread. He's probably fantasizing about you replacing whatever functional illiterate gave him an unreadable e-mail most recently. You can be a good guy and a bad leader if you lack empathy for your people. Officers are shielded from a lot of really stupid stuff about the forces (although they have to deal with very different types of stupidity all the time), Like if there's hard standing to stay the night, the officers will get any bunks or cabins while the troops might get mats in an open shelter or are stuck tenting. HQ guys might be giving orders to guys who've been carrying heavy packs through the bush for 4 days while sitting at a table with a hot coffee in their hand. They don't generally have to wait hours to go home because the Q store needs three guys to sort some poo poo out, clean weapons all day, turn wrenches or deal with irate dependents at the front desk. So it can be easy to do things that have a disproportionate effect unless you think carefully about what it means to the people affected.
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Or you do what Navy SWOs do and don’t worry, I’m sure the E3s can handle the 120 hour workweek while we jerk each other off in staterooms.
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Apropo navy... a young officer in the Royal Norwegian Navy failed his practical (boat) drivers test and got walloped by an oil tanker: That'll buff right out!  Okay maybe not. I'm sure the CO will have fun writing the loss/damage report for a USD $500 million frigate, heh.
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Nov 12, 2018 00:42
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Hyggelig.
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Wibla posted:Apropo navy... a young officer in the Royal Norwegian Navy failed his practical (boat) drivers test and got walloped by an oil tanker: Perkele!
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Memento posted:Perkele! Any good Forgotten Weapons fan would know that's Finnish!
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chitoryu12 posted:Any good Fixed that for you.
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chitoryu12 posted:Any good Forgotten Weapons fan would know that's Finnish! gently caress it is too, I got my Scandos mixed up. I will drink some dreadful vodka as penance.
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Memento posted:Perkele! The right expletive in this instance would be "Faen!" I've logged god knows how many hours at the helm on one of the sister ships and I have no loving clue how they managed to gently caress up so badly. Heads will roll.
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For added fun, the location of the accident meant that a major oil transport and processing hub (Sture) got shut down for security reasons, forcing some other oil installations to shut down. So Norways main export gets cut by 25% + for a couple of days.
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Arban posted:For added fun, the location of the accident meant that a major oil transport and processing hub (Sture) got shut down for security reasons, forcing some other oil installations to shut down. that's one hell of a fuckup lmao
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It's going to be a long few days picking bits of him out of the grill of his immediate superior's car.
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From listening to the radio traffic it sounds like the frigate is married to his course line. Doesn't want to turn, and when the tanker or VTS asks him to he says he "has a couple of degrees starboard once past... once past... *Static* ..on our starboard". My semi-educated guess is they wanted to turn on sector change of Ådneset lighthouse (see map below). The tanker was a bit more west than usual northbound traffic, both because it'd just departed the oil terminal on the west side of the fjord, and because there was other northbound traffic at the same time it had to give way to. Sounds like the frigate had plotted a course hours before and very much wanted to stick with it. And then the starboard anchor on SOLA TS peeled open the side (Top picture above) and the bulb probably opened the engineering spaces to the sea for the whole length of the engine room.  Loss of propulsion was instant according to the radio logs, and they immediately chose to beach her with the residual speed I guess. (At least they only reported loss of propulsion, not of steeering, and the beaching has been descripbed as deliberate, but who knows. Could have been dumb luck.) Frigate speed was 17 kts at impact. Will be interesting to see the total damage when they get her up, and why the gently caress they chose to go hard port at the last second instead of starboard, or if they even turned at all. The finest of maps in paint, FF in blue, tanker in red, other traffic in green: 
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I hosed up bad in the Army but never half a billion dollars and 25% of a country's oil exports for a whole day bad.
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That dude owes so many beers he might as well sell himself and his children into slavery to make up for it. Impacting a national economy, jesus.
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Caconym posted:From listening to the radio traffic it sounds like the frigate is married to his course line. Some details in English quote:“This is a huge blow to the Norwegian navy,” said Sebastian Bruns, who heads the Center for Maritime Strategy and Security at the University of Kiel in northern Germany. The loss of the $400 million ship, which appeared likely, leaves the Norwegian Navy with a 20 percent cut to its most advanced class of ship...
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the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian.
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canyoneer posted:the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian. gently caress
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Never mind, Russia wrecked its only aircraft carrier, which is almost 40 years old, and can't fix it.canyoneer posted:the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian. 
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canyoneer posted:the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian. god loving dammit
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Can anyone give me the lowdown on why navies around the world can't stop smashing really expensive state of the art ships into supertankers?
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canyoneer posted:the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian. Legit smiled thank you 
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canyoneer posted:the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian. 
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A White Guy posted:Can anyone give me the lowdown on why navies around the world can't stop smashing really expensive state of the art ships into supertankers? Navy: "I WANNA GO MY WAY FUXK YOU GO AROUND" Tanker: *literally can't*
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canyoneer posted:the crash looks like it tore off the ship's barcode too, so even if they had made it back into port they'd have no way to scandinavian. I simultaneously love you and want you permabanned.
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Vat are you zinking about?
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A White Guy posted:Can anyone give me the lowdown on why navies around the world can't stop smashing really expensive state of the art ships into supertankers? It's a lot of failures all lining up at the same time: Someone on the bridge not watching or misinterpreting what they're seeing, someone in combat not seeing the entire radar picture, deciding to not have your most experienced people driving the ship during a high traffic area, things like that and all happening at the same time. Crew fatigue can also play a huge role. What really surprises me is that the frigate didn't have on its AIS. You'd think NATO ships in their own home country would feel secure doing that considering it was a key failure point for both the Fitzgerald and the McCain collisions last year (according to the report released).
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A White Guy posted:Can anyone give me the lowdown on why navies around the world can't stop smashing really expensive state of the art ships into supertankers? Because How to Avoid Huge Ships is out of print.
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