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EwokEntourage posted:Writing absurdly lopsided contract clauses and then watching them actually get adopted is super fun as an attorney
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dwarf74 posted:Isn't there a thing where an absurdly lopsided contract can be annulled due to its absurd lopsidedness? In theory yes, in practice basically no (especially between two sophisticated entities with lawyers).
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DC Murderverse posted:
No poo poo, the guy who created Grietens huh? I've definitely wrote this before, when all that scandal was blowing up, but it just tickles me pink I'll share it again. I knew a smarmy rich kid college republican in undergrad who went on to Harvard Law and then to practice with some (i'm sure awful) firm in St Louis, who quit a few years later to jump headfirst into Missouri Republican politics. He got in with Grietens and rode that train to the Governor's Mansion, being appointed some sort of senior policy fucker aide to the Governor or whatever. Oh his loving facebook was nothing but photos of Grietens making speeches with this rear end in a top hat standing in the background looking Very Serious, or candids of Grietens and his retinue (fucker included) walking around Importantly surveying a manufacturing plant or some poo poo. The guy was very clearly ambitious and saw this as his first step into serious Republican politics land. Well Grietens was a sex-monster and his flaming career took that fucker down with him. Stuck with him until the day he resigned, too. Couldn't have happened to a nicer piece of poo poo.
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Drone posted:So what stops Trump from just never nominating a successor? Or from intentionally nominating people who are so grossly underqualified that even Senate Republicans wouldn't confirm? (though tbh I literally don't know what that would look like... Trump could nominate Pepe the Frog and the Senate would confirm the fictional cartoon character along party lines). In this specific case, he has to make an appointment to keep an enemy (or at least a person he has a beef with) out of the seat. In the general case, nothing. The remedy for a president who allows the government to rot through dereliction of duty is supposed to be impeachment.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Honestly the Mississippi senate election barely matters because even if the Dems somehow pull out a miracle a win they’ll just most likely lose it in 2020 along with Alabama so it won’t contribute to the fight for 50 seats. Getting minority voters energized to get out and vote despite all the obstacles is a huge issue by itself. An Espy win would be a solid demonstration of how much power they actually have and could be a bellwether for future D success in the state.
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Skippy McPants posted:Wow, that is vile. Workplace culture is such that anyone who doesn't take a gun is going to feel derided, and framing it as "team building" only makes that worse. I would 100% never go back to the office if I knew everyone who worked there owned a loving firearm. American workplaces are rear end and the people in that rear end are toxic shitheads.
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Nov 14, 2018 16:25
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If my boss handed me a free gun I would say "wow, is this loaded?", point it at the wall, and pull the trigger. All possible outcomes would lead to the end of the free gun program.
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eke out posted:lol it must suck to have to try to pretend you believe this argument Who are they making that justification to, or is it just that they are making their position public? https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/1062403747819601920
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Skippy McPants posted:Wow, that is vile. Workplace culture is such that anyone who doesn't take a gun is going to feel derided, and framing it as "team building" only makes that worse. He's actually a ridiculously nice guy, super liberal - we used to sit in AP History with another friend and talk about things like A People's History of the United States and things like that. Just about everyone hunts in the area, so he had a gun or two, but he never struck me as a gun nut. I don't really get it. At least they require gun safety training with them. And it's not like there's any reason to need a handgun in that area - the plant is in Hortonville, we grew up in New London a few miles away, both towns are under 10,000 people. In 50 some years, there was one intentional murder - a classmate's stepfather killed her mother - it's not like there's this rash of robberies that you're going to think you need a gun to protect your family. It's like issuing lion repellent - even if it works, which it probably doesn't, and if lions are in the area, which they aren't, the odds of actually using it to protect yourself from lions are astronomically low, and then you need to worry about a pet or child choking on it.
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haveblue posted:If my boss handed me a free gun I would say "wow, is this loaded?", point it at the wall, and pull the trigger. All possible outcomes would lead to the end of the free gun program. I mean, it would also put you in jail for reckless endangerment, but do you
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I want to live in a timeline where Donnie brings down NBC and Fox media empires. Oh and also Disney because his statue is cursed.
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fox news is showing unusual amounts of foresight about avoiding the revocation of their white house pass in the next democratic administration
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 Saw this on my way to work today.....I give him a few months before he goes full MAGAbomber. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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evilweasel posted:fox news is showing unusual amounts of foresight about avoiding the revocation of their white house pass in the next democratic administration yeah lol, if this doesn't say "they see the writing on the wall" i dont know what does
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Mahoning posted:
A lot of people probably will think that, after that last bomber had all those stickers on his car.
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I'm not a lawyer, is this a serious enough oopsie that it completely undermines what DOJ argued? I recall the ACA case was also based on a completely laughable legal argument and yet it still got heard and had the Medicaid expansion get thrown out. The right wing doesn't seem to care about whether their arguments make sense in court.
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axeil posted:I'm not a lawyer, is this a serious enough oopsie that it completely undermines what DOJ argued? I recall the ACA case was also based on a completely laughable legal argument and yet it still got heard and had the Medicaid expansion get thrown out. At the end of the day the Supreme Court can always do whatever it wants, but assuming this guy is right this is massively embarrassing for the OLC attorney who wrote this, and they'd need to find a new argument about why it was legal instead of a time-warp argument.
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Er... so Trump is now supervising Mueller? https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1062732331222552576
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knox_harrington posted:Er... so Trump is now supervising Mueller? Oh good, that means Mueller's job is safe.
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evilweasel posted:At the end of the day the Supreme Court can always do whatever it wants, but assuming this guy is right this is massively embarrassing for the OLC attorney who wrote this, and they'd need to find a new argument about why it was legal instead of a time-warp argument. What makes it extra embarrassing is they already were pulling examples from the loving 1700s and 1800s so the question of "hey which laws were in place at this time?"should have been at the forefront of their minds. Just out of curiosity do they teach attorneys to sketch out a timeline when drafting arguments? We were taught to do so when handling cases with more than two dates because it is very easy to get mixed up. Or did the time split that put us down this alternate hell-universe make that unreliable in this case?
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evilweasel posted:At the end of the day the Supreme Court can always do whatever it wants, but assuming this guy is right this is massively embarrassing for the OLC attorney who wrote this, and they'd need to find a new argument about why it was legal instead of a time-warp argument. Luppe agrees: https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1062747489550266368 Seems to me like the key thing here is it would allow a reviewing court to say "You guys read the statute wrong, it's not legal to do this" rather than "The VRA is unconstitutional to the extent that it allows this to happen." The former is relatively uncontroversial, the latter is a huge opinion that makes big waves.
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enraged_camel posted:yeah lol, if this doesn't say "they see the writing on the wall" i dont know what does There’s a history of this IIRC. All the media outlets have solidarity in the access game, at least going back to Bush.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Wow, that's like the entire press room. Huh. No Breitbart? No OneAmericaNews? Curious, that.
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Here's a good brief writeup of some of the things we can infer from the OLC memo about Whitaker's appointment. https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1062760192662745088
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enraged_camel posted:yeah lol, if this doesn't say "they see the writing on the wall" i dont know what does That and Fox News is fundamentally a business at heart. I think this is pure business pragmatism winning out over the political side of the corporation. Big business is no one's friend.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Wow, that's like the entire press room. isn't reuters technically uk-based? if i'm not 100% wrong, that might be a factor.
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eke out posted:lol it must suck to have to try to pretend you believe this argument So I've been trying to figure this out and haven't been able to. Is Whitaker actually getting info from the Mueller investigation he can just pass on to the White House? Is he making decisions on anything at this point?
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eke out posted:Here's a good brief writeup of some of the things we can infer from the OLC memo about Whitaker's appointment. https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1062768968732233733
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Lmao there's a significantly greater than zero number of Americans who think Democrats controlling the House is a good thing, and approve of Trump. We are so loving dumb as a country, my God
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rscott posted:Lmao there's a significantly greater than zero number of Americans who think Democrats controlling the House is a good thing, and approve of Trump. We are so loving dumb as a country, my God They like Trump's thumb in the eye of queers and women and poors and blacks and soyboys, but also haven't reached escape velocity money to buy a walled compound in New Zealand for when society collapses?
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