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Fulchrum posted:Gee, could that be down to active nonstop sabotage by the GOP? Nah, they would never do anything like that, clearly everything with Obamacare was MEANT to be there. what part of GOP sabotage made the deductibles on the plans shoot through the roof? or the insurers pull out of the exchanges?
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Fulchrum posted:Gee, could that be down to active nonstop sabotage by the GOP? Nah, they would never do anything like that, clearly everything with Obamacare was MEANT to be there. bold to proclaim Obama was secretly a member of the GOP, but I'm interested to see where you go with this
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Willa Rogers posted:How about from the healthcare lobbyist's/Obama's pick for HHS's mouth? there you go, i thought something like this existed. also i miss when greenwald used to write about domestic policy in relatively normal ways, like that piece
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Fulchrum posted:Gee, could that be down to active nonstop sabotage by the GOP? Nah, they would never do anything like that, clearly everything with Obamacare was MEANT to be there. You know what the GOP can't sabotage? Medicare. Know why? Too many people are on it.
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Nov 15, 2018 03:03
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The Glumslinger posted:Have another "Trump is super angry and pissy because there wasn't a red wave" story Lol this article makes it sound like Trump is terrified of John Kelly, which is probably true Lmao at a President having a massively dysfunctional relationship with his Chief of Staff
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my bony fealty posted:Lol this article makes it sound like Trump is terrified of John Kelly, which is probably true tbh, i don't think there's a single person that has a functional relationship with trump
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Nov 15, 2018 03:07
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https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1062879923767918594 He put Mueller on there.
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Condiv posted:tbh, i don't think there's a single person that has a functional relationship with trump Hannity
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my bony fealty posted:Lol this article makes it sound like Trump is terrified of John Kelly, which is probably true i mean it makes sense. he has used kelly as a hatchet man because his own persona is utter fake bullshit and he is an abject coward. But trump being trump distrusts and hates everyone, but he can't bring himself to fire kelly.
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VitalSigns posted:You know what the GOP can't sabotage? Medicare.
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Nov 15, 2018 03:12
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Also, GOP sabotage was done before Obamacare was actually rolled out.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1062840118225055744quote:“When a culture is surrounded by, inundated by, and rewards things that celebrate death—whether it is zombies in television shows, the number of abortions—that we indiscriminately think is just OK,” Bevin explained to Conway. “These are drips, drips, drips on the stones of the psyches of young generations that are growing up in a society that increasingly says this is normal and OK."
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oh gently caress your morality police bullshit, you loving poo poo. you ground your state into the ground and striped people of their healthcare and yet you cry about the ills of the world are loving comics and zombies.
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This is particularly great because the overarching message of almost every zombie movie/TV show is that WE are the monsters.
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downout posted:I would think what the GOP has stated they want to do regarding Social Security and Medicare clearly disprove this. Especially, as they continue get the majority of people using those programs to vote for them. Their constituents do not care if Social Security and Medicare get cut as long as "those people" don't cannot use it. maybe. I think if Democrats can't get to 60 votes by 2034 when 20% cuts to Social Security kick in, they should abolish the filibuster solely for purposes of saving Social Security so that Republicans won't be able to complain about it without reminding voters that Democrats were solely responsible for saving Social Security.
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downout posted:I would think what the GOP has stated they want to do regarding Social Security and Medicare clearly disprove this. Especially, as they continue get the majority of people using those programs to vote for them. Their constituents do not care if Social Security and Medicare get cut as long as "those people" don't cannot use it. They couldn't even scrape 50 votes together to cut Medicaid my man. Yeah they want to but they can never wrangle up the votes to do it because too many legislators know their career is over if they do and every time they try they get owned in the next elections. That's why universal public programs are resilient, whereas overcomplicated subsidy-juggling private-profit compromises like Obamacare die the death of a thousand cuts because it's easy to cut risk corridor payments that no one understands or knows anything about and the consequences are obscured through the operations of private industry and time.
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Nov 15, 2018 03:23
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The man soon to be the second least popular governor in the country, ladies and gentlemen.
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Agent Burt Macklin posted:This is particularly great because the overarching message of almost every zombie movie/TV show is that WE are the monsters. Also, the NRA and gun manufacturers having huge hands into the zombie craze, selling guns and ammunition with zombie branding.
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Retro42 posted:I’m serious though. If you’re a hard lefty that fine. Just enlighten me why that puts her in the poo poo category. Otherwise you just sound exactly like the far right with zero context. The answer to this is mostly just that mainstream Democratic politics are bad enough that even being above average for a Democrat (like Pelosi) is still very bad, and Pelosi in particular stands out because she is a very prominent Democrat (so she's a symbol of sorts with more influence than your average member of Congress). Basically the left is not exaggerating when they talk about Democrats being a "lesser evil"; most of the harm both within and caused by our country enjoys bipartisan approval. I think many liberals view things as a "the Democrats don't go far enough and I wish they'd oppose Republicans better" situation, but the left views them as being actively harmful in the same vein as Republicans, even if not to quite the same extent. All of this being said, there's definitely some ignorance in perception of Pelosi, namely in the sense that there's a very real distinction between her and someone like Schumer and many seem to perceive her as being bad for a Democrat (which is definitely not the case, and probably actually is influenced by sexism and/or right-wing talking points to some degree), but merely not being as bad as Schumer still doesn't make her good. (I'd still rather her be Speaker than any of the likely more conservative alternatives, though)
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:if your personal theology requires Nancy Pelosi to have been utterly oblivious to any of the actions of democratic leadership in order to function, then so be it. not gonna reason you out of a position you did not reason yourself into. Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:let me introduce you to the Great State of California, and the trials and travails of trying to pass public healthcare there. We talk a lot about how much Sunk Cost Fallacy surrounds the GOP & Trump faithful, but centrist Dems have some major issues with it as well that they really need to start coming to terms with if they even want to maintain the pretense of intellectual honesty or objectivity. AlBorlantern Corps posted:That Obama wanted a public option and be Lieberman thwarted him is a comfortable lie I'm willing to live with, tbh. My point, precisely.
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Agent Burt Macklin posted:This is particularly great because the overarching message of almost every zombie movie/TV show is that WE are the monsters. I've always seen it as a fantasy about justifiably killing your neighbors
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Don't zombie shows depict a gun nut's dream life? Rolling around shooting at the world and living 24/7 with your guns and bullets?
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Brony Car posted:Don't zombie shows depict a gun nut's dream life? Rolling around shooting at the world and living 24/7 with your guns and bullets? yeah, because they all think they would be Imorton Negan, instead of dead in an hour/week, or killed/arrested when the military/bigger community/etc shows up.
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1062879923767918594 i mean, if your not a dead eyed super nazi who loves trump, your a commie.
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Good news! House leadership is getting fresh blood! https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1062884149760090112?s=19 ...probably something we'll see in the q thread unironically in a week
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Mr Interweb posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1062888209938554885 he is a never trumper, there for to the pod crew. a liberal in good standing.
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RE: Avenatti and that TMZ story. Why would any respectable news outlet use TMZ as a source, they're pretty much the far-too-drunken interpretive dance of news.  And if the KY governer was right, we'd have mass crossbowings, too. 
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KickerOfMice posted:RE: Avenatti and that TMZ story. Why would any respectable news outlet use TMZ as a source, they're pretty much the far-too-drunken interpretive dance of news. Aside from the LAPD twitter account confirming that he has been arrested, do we know anything about what allegedly happened?
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Brony Car posted:Aside from the LAPD twitter account confirming that he has been arrested, do we know anything about what allegedly happened? Washington Post emphasized a bit: Avanetti kicks a woman out of his home, she calls police on standby to get her stuff back, claims he hit her, and he claimed she hit him first. Its really minimal right now.
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KickerOfMice posted:RE: Avenatti and that TMZ story. Why would any respectable news outlet use TMZ as a source, they're pretty much the far-too-drunken interpretive dance of news. because avenatti is a scum bag and people are waiting for him to show his true colors.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:because avenatti is a scum bag and people are waiting for him to show his true colors. Oh, no doubt. But TMZ?
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Facebook also has admitted that they had a role to play in the genocide in Myanmar which...how do you show up for work the next day knowing that? Sandberg and Zuckerberg are both Jewish, and paying for a little of the same conspiracy mongering that lead to the massacre in a synagogue is just another day at the office for them. The guillotine is too kind.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:TMZ has really, really good sources in a few very specific places. Yeah, who is going to star next on survivor. E- Which... might make sense.
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selec posted:Facebook also has admitted that they had a role to play in the genocide in Myanmar which...how do you show up for work the next day knowing that? It fills me with no small amount of happiness that Zuck was clearly prepping for a presidential run and got that yanked away from him.
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Shifty Pony posted:It fills me with no small amount of happiness that Zuck was clearly prepping for a presidential run and got that yanked away from him. https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1062892813975674881
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