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Anza Borrego: Feb 11, 2005; Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Admiral Ray posted:

We should do this poo poo like the Indians do, tbh.

Edit: Actual secure machines with open source software, independent inspectors of machines, and no network access, so each machine needs to be brought back to have its vote tally transferred to a central database and all of it is webcast live the whole time.

Coupled with mandatory voter registration for citizens, this seems like the best approach.

Oh wait, ARE FREEDUMBS

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:04

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# ? May 25, 2024 04:28

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1062873781939580929

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:05

Wicked Them Beats: Apr 1, 2007; Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1062873781939580929

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:06

acksplode: May 17, 2004

I'd prefer slow counting with paper ballots over fast counting with electronic voting machines. Trust is way more important than speed or efficiency here. And electronic voting machines wouldn't do anything to speed up mail-in ballots anyway.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:07

dont be mean to me: May 2, 2007; I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars

acksplode posted:

I'd prefer slow counting with paper ballots over fast counting with electronic voting machines. Trust is way more important than speed or efficiency here. And electronic voting machines wouldn't do anything to speed up mail-in ballots anyway.

Isn't that (at least for recounts) part of why they changed the ballot-trons to a human-readable format?

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:09

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Young Kim went to orientation in D.C. today

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:22

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Cup Runneth Over posted:

truly moving

Newsom took a page out of the feinstein book of winning elections ,say nothing do nothing get elected

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:23

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1062873781939580929

Her

-fest when she loses is going to fuel my depleted soul.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:25

Boredumb: Mar 10, 2005

The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1062873781939580929

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1062873956116385792

!!! heck yeah

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:31

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Nate 538 with the latest from CA-21

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1062869422728200193

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:38

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Thurmond has pulled 1.0% ahead of Tuck :siren:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:38

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Sydin posted:

Thurmond has pulled 1.0% ahead of Tuck

this is not a drill, prepare the party poppers

# ? Nov 15, 2018 02:49

Jerry Manderbilt: May 31, 2012; No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Sydin posted:

Thurmond has pulled 1.0% ahead of Tuck

i can't wait for tuck to lose again

Sydin posted:

Her -fest when she loses is going to fuel my depleted soul.

her

-ing about voting fraud is going to make the schadenfreude over her loss even sweeter

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:08

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Sydin posted:

Thurmond has pulled 1.0% ahead of Tuck

thank loving god

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:20

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

that said, how much power does superintendent of public education actually have? I honestly don't really know much about what poo poo like Insurance Commisioner or Superintendent actually does, and what they can gently caress up alone.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:20

Jerry Manderbilt: May 31, 2012; No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1062796884648120320

:nallears:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:34

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Xaris posted:

that said, how much power does superintendent of public education actually have? I honestly don't really know much about what poo poo like Insurance Commisioner or Superintendent actually does, and what they can gently caress up alone.

Insurance Business Magazine posted:

In California, the Department of Insurance is particularly large. The 1,300-employee department licenses and regulates roughly 325,000 agents and hundreds of insurance companies. It also works to fight fraud, enforces state laws and regulations and resolve insurance-related complaints from the public.

CalWatchDog posted:

For instance, the California Supreme Court issued a Jan. 23 ruling in a case that challenged the insurance commissioner�s authority to issue rules governing how insurance companies calculate replacement-cost estimates for homeowners� policies. The trial and appeals courts ruled the commissioner exerted power not granted to him by the Legislature, but the high court overruled those decisions.

Insurance Commissioner is huge and it's a big deal that Poznier is going down.

EdSource posted:

The state superintendent runs the Department of Education. The department:

Monitors districts� compliance with state and federal programs, grants and laws to ensure money is spent appropriately;

Collects data on district spending and student performance through sites like DataQuest and Ed-Data, and allocates money under the Local Control Funding Formula and other programs;

Shares responsibilities with county offices of education and the Collaborative for Educational Excellence for helping districts improve under the Local Control Funding Formula and the federal Every Student Succeeds Act. Starting 2020, the state superintendent will determine which consistently low performing school districts will need tighter state oversight and control.

Oversees county offices of education budgets and their Local Control and Accountability Plans;

Executes policies adopted by the State Board of Education and provides support for the board�s small staff in drafting regulations and academic standards;

Runs two schools for deaf students and a state school for blind students;

Appoints state trustee for bankrupt districts that receive emergency state loans and monitors their recovery.

As is Superintendent. This is not where you want a charter school shill like Tuck.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:43

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Fun fact from one of the OC races:

https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1062879059972104192

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:45

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Leperflesh posted:

Why? What is the reason for spending piles of money in order to get the results faster, given none of the elected officials take their seats yet? What harm does taking a few days longer cause? Even if it took an extra month, I don't see how that hurts anything.

Other modern democracies count all the votes in one day despite having many more voters than California.

Draging it out damages legitimacy.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 03:46

Skippy McPants: Mar 19, 2009

FMguru posted:

Fun fact from one of the OC races:

https://twitter.com/Alex_Roarty/status/1062879059972104192

Economic populism, in my OC?

# ? Nov 15, 2018 04:25

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

800 on the index rolling into SAC. It may not be orange but god drat itll give you cancer close your windows sacgoons because this poo poo is :toxx:

: $200 air filter or 100,000s in medical bills from pulmonary disease

# ? Nov 15, 2018 04:57

Digamma-F-Wau: Mar 22, 2016; It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

Classes both today and tomorrow were canceled because of air quality and I'm pretty much stuck in my dorm room.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 05:07

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Charlz Guybon posted:

Other modern democracies count all the votes in one day despite having many more voters than California.

Draging it out damages legitimacy.

Funny, I thought not counting all the votes and electing the person who lost damages legitimacy

# ? Nov 15, 2018 05:23

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

This take aged like a fine wine:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 05:31

Lemming: Apr 21, 2008

Assembly District Election Meetings are coming up in January, is anyone here planning on trying to run? If you get elected, you get to vote as an Assembly District Delegate at the state party convention in Sacramento. Bernie delegates ran a lot of the tables last time two years ago, I missed getting on by like four votes. I'm going to give it another shot this year I think.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 05:39

a_good_username: Mar 13, 2018

Woof it is tense waiting on all these random CA house race results to come in. Basically all the candidates I donated to who actually won did so following an apparent election night loss. This is good in that it seems like I donated to places where it matters, but it definitely makes things way more stressful while you wait.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 06:01

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

a_good_username posted:

Woof it is tense waiting on all these random CA house race results to come in. Basically all the candidates I donated to who actually won did so following an apparent election night loss. This is good in that it seems like I donated to places where it matters, but it definitely makes things way more stressful while you wait.

I'm wondering how it feels like to be a Republican supporter (or worse, candidate) who went to bed Tuesday night thinking that you won, and have spent the last eight days watching your lead just drip drip drip away and now you're a walking dead man (or woman) with no idea when it will all end. I mean LOL it couldn't happen to a more deserving gaggle of shitheels, but it still seems cruel.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 06:05

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Funny, I thought not counting all the votes and electing the person who lost damages legitimacy

I agree, though I don't see how that statement has any relationship or relevance to what I said.

My position is clear. Count all the votes, and count them all in one night.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 06:11

dont be mean to me: May 2, 2007; I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars

Charlz Guybon posted:

I agree, though I don't see how that statement has any relationship or relevance to what I said.

My position is clear. Count all the votes, and count them all in one night.

So do you wait until all the mail-in ballots are in, or do you disenfranchise mail-in voters?

# ? Nov 15, 2018 06:16

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Instant Sunrise posted:

This take aged like a fine wine:

# ? Nov 15, 2018 06:19

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

dont be mean to me posted:

So do you wait until all the mail-in ballots are in, or do you disenfranchise mail-in voters?

Ok, count all the votes on the day that they are recieved. All counting should be done by the end of the last day mail ballots are recieved. That is three days post election day, IIRC.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 06:50

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Charlz Guybon posted:

I agree, though I don't see how that statement has any relationship or relevance to what I said.

My position is clear. Count all the votes, and count them all in one night.

So since we didn't do that should we only count the ones we were able to get to in one night?

# ? Nov 15, 2018 07:50

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Cup Runneth Over posted:

So since we didn't do that should we only count the ones we were able to get to in one night?

What are you going on about? I'm talking about future elections, not past ones. Obviously we must count all votes cast in the recent election.

I have been extremely clear in what I want. Read the post directly above yours.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 16:18

eyebeem: Jul 18, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Charlz Guybon posted:

What are you going on about? I'm talking about future elections, not past ones. Obviously we must count all votes cast in the recent election.

I have been extremely clear in what I want. Read the post directly above yours.

Cool.

You gonna pay for it? You don't understand how ballot counting works.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 16:32

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Charlz Guybon posted:

What are you going on about? I'm talking about future elections, not past ones. Obviously we must count all votes cast in the recent election.

I have been extremely clear in what I want. Read the post directly above yours.

Ok cool so we agree that we should count all the votes? So since they are doing that and there's months until the new congresspeople actually take office I don't see the problem

# ? Nov 15, 2018 16:46

The Wiggly Wizard: Aug 21, 2008

ProperGanderPusher posted:

The GOP didn�t even try this year. Coupled with Trump�s extreme unpopularity and the fact literally nobody was excited for Cox I�m not surprised Gavbot won in a landslide.

In many ways, Schwarzenegger was the last hurrah of the Cali GOP. He was exceptionally liberal (for a Republican) and very charismatic. I doubt the levers of power will ever be in their hands again except if they completely drop their socially conservative platform and focus their energies on pandering to rich liberals on taxes and more handouts for property owners.

Never underestimate the voter�s capacity to regress hard.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 17:05

Roland Jones: Aug 18, 2011; by Nyc_Tattoo

Charlz Guybon posted:

Ok, count all the votes on the day that they are recieved. All counting should be done by the end of the last day mail ballots are recieved. That is three days post election day, IIRC.

So, rather than running tallies of the votes, you want the results all revealed at once, even if it still has to be days or weeks after the election is over. That, or you're insisting that the votes not be counted until every single vote is in, then all those votes counted at once and the results revealed after that.

The first of these is personal preference and not something to change the laws or process over, and only idiots and insincere assholes think that counting mail-in votes that arrive in the mail after the date voting itself ends because they were, you know, mailed, and that takes a while to happen, delegitimizes elections. The second is so stupid I'm not even going to bother addressing it in detail, it's just doing things extremely inefficiently for dumb reasons.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 17:19

The Wiggly Wizard: Aug 21, 2008

What we should be doing is appeasing our loser President and disenfranchise voters who dared submit ballots on Election Day via socialist United States Hussein Postal Service.

# ? Nov 15, 2018 17:50

Ammanas: Jul 17, 2005; Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Never underestimate the voter’s capacity to regress hard.

tbf california never went very reactionary after the 2008 collapse devastated the state. admittedly the broad political climate wasn't a freight train on fire rocketing toward cosplay fascism like it is now but we hold the line here pretty well.

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# ? May 25, 2024 04:28

theblackw0lf: Apr 15, 2003; "...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"

Sydin posted:

So beyond single payer, what are some things the Dems could do with a super majority that we'd really want them to do, but they won't? I know anything that touches taxes requires a super majority, but I don't know how handcuffed the legislature is by Prop 13 in regards to the taxes we really need to raise at the moment.

Repeal Costa Hawkins and Ellis Act

Can a Dem supermajority overturn the 2/3 requirement for tax and budget increases?

# ? Nov 15, 2018 18:33

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