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friendbot2000 posted:Just a minor nitpick because I think in this instance specificity is important. It exists to control poor whites AND people of color. Huh. Really. Learned something new today. Since it doesn't translate well in text I'm making fun of you for being autistic. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Failed Imagineer posted:I love when the Big Wet President plays weatherman on Twitter. I mean, I get what he's hamfistedly trying to do, but it's still hilarious. He's really mastered the art of the internet troll approach to his bully pulpit. Basically find point you want to hammer on and then conveniently pick through current situations and factoids that allow you to hammer on said point while disregarding everything else around you. Trump clearly wants to be on about climate change denial as he does every single winter cause he's a simple minded base pandering idiot. So now instead of thanksgiving well wishes we get daily twitter shitposts about how Thanksgiving and Christmas are really about how global warming is a myth. Soon probably to give way to some bleating about what a boon Black Friday was for the economy and how it's all thanks to him if he's predictable as I figure. I wonder if he's even remotely aware about how just little the average American gives a solitary gently caress right now. Their concerns are almost certainly going to be "holy gently caress is it cold right now" and boy I hope my flight isn't delayed so I make it home to my family in time for Turkey. Prester Jane posted:If it weren't Mitch McConnell it would be someone else. And the reason we're focused on incompetent leadership is because incompetent leadership hamstrings any actual resistance from taking place. You absolutely have to replace the incompetent leadership first before you can expect to really fight back. Until you replace that incompetent leadership nothing you do matters and will have no appreciable impact in the long-term. Sure, you may win a few short-term victories here and there, but so long as you have incompetent leadership you are ultimately destined for failure. 100%. No exceptions whatsoever. Makes sense. Again it's not that I disagree with these positions or anything in particular, it's just the way the USPOL unpackages it's ideas, as I've mentioned before, that makes it come across at times as sort of meme inspired or half serious. One thing that can't be stressed enough is that just because someone questions a position does not actually mean they are fully against it or even at all. There's this tendency to feel like asking for elaboration or about where the long term goal in a position lies means you automatically oppose that goal or idea and have some bad faith intention to undermine it. Kale fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Kale posted:I have absolutely no idea what that guy particularly stands for other than a Democratic party line vote.
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Want to have some fun, ask Siri How Old is Donald Trump https://mobile.twitter.com/verge/status/1065718041558818817 Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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friendbot2000 posted:Just a minor nitpick because I think in this instance specificity is important. It exists to control poor whites AND people of color. While it did evolve into that, it wasn't necessary to control poor black people at the time with such subtlety, they had far more blunt and direct means to do so which they were more than willing to use.
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Ague Proof posted:Trump supporters on Thanksgiving. The_Donald Thanksgiving     
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Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. it's all going to be the same avatar so i'll find a nice dog or something.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar.  Turkey and American Chestnut Pudding
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Skex posted:Counter point I don't see how this contradicts what I said? The Constitution was written in the 1780s, I said that the hierarchy of racial superiority was fully entrenched by 1750. 1600-1700 is when you see the racial codes and laws come into force as you posted, so I would say that in 1600 "race" as a modern person would understand it did not exist and in 1700 it did.
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Prester Jane posted:If it weren't Mitch McConnell it would be someone else. And the reason we're focused on incompetent leadership is because incompetent leadership hamstrings any actual resistance from taking place. You absolutely have to replace the incompetent leadership first before you can expect to really fight back. Until you replace that incompetent leadership nothing you do matters and will have no appreciable impact in the long-term. Sure, you may win a few short-term victories here and there, but so long as you have incompetent leadership you are ultimately destined for failure. 100%. No exceptions whatsoever. So when do you start insisting on replacing leftist leadership if they can't defeat the dem establishment? Or does this absolutely hardline rule only apply to liberals, because leftists are pure and good and faultless?
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Fulchrum posted:So when do you start insisting on replacing leftist leadership if they can't defeat the dem establishment? Or does this absolutely hardline rule only apply to liberals, because leftists are pure and good and faultless? they can defeat the dem establishment so this question is moot but yes if leftist leaders were nazi-sympathizing dirtbags we would insist on replacing them too
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Fulchrum posted:So when do you start insisting on replacing leftist leadership if they can't defeat the dem establishment? Or does this absolutely hardline rule only apply to liberals, because leftists are pure and good and faultless? Yes, we should replace Bernie with Ocasio-Cortez as the leftist leader as soon as she turns 35 Edit: I'm also going to apply "Beto almost winning in Texas is a sign he was a better candidate than prior ones in Texas" logic to Bernie's loss in 2016 galenanorth fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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I'm eating Thanksgiving alone in a bar and yet I'm somehow less pathetic than that poo poo jfc
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Yinlock posted:they can defeat the dem establishment so this question is moot So if you think you can, and Schumer just retook leadership over the senate, then by your logic they chose to let Schumer be Senate Minority leader. Good to know Schumer is who leftists want as minority leader in the senate. Also, Bernie thinks we need to be nice and compassionate to Nazis and not interrupt their meals. So where exactly is your insistence? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fulchrum posted:Bernie thinks we need to be nice and compassionate to Nazis and not interrupt their meals. So where exactly is your insistence? happy thanksgiving everyone
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. I made chili for friendsgiving. 
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Fulchrum posted:Bernie thinks we need to be nice and compassionate to Nazis and not interrupt their meals. So where exactly is your insistence? I mean he's not giving nazis everything they want in exchange for nothing, so I'd say that's still a large step up from current dems
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. I'm in the UK so we don't really do Thanksgiving, but I did think "huh, it's Thanksgiving in the states then" when I was reading this thread while cooking some bizarre sweet potato/chicken hash feast. It was pretty tasty.  Happy Thanksgiving amerigoons. I personally give thanks to the fact that brexit is going more down the shitter every day. Also thanks to you lot for keeping me abreast of American politics, and generally making me more left wing than I probably would have been.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The_Donald Thanksgiving His hair looks like a tightly packed stack of pubes.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The_Donald Thanksgiving Tag yourself. I'm the dead vacant glare hovering above the pedostache.
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Prester Jane posted:Tag yourself. I'm the dead vacant glare hovering above the pedostache. I'm the hair that hasn't been washed in weeks.
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Prester Jane posted:Tag yourself. I'm the dead vacant glare hovering above the pedostache. I'm the unfinished basement filled with my parent's poo poo
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Prester Jane posted:Tag yourself. I'm the dead vacant glare hovering above the pedostache. He's in a basement too.
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You’re all my drunk uncles this Thanksgiving. Jesus Christ. Practice self care tonight. Eat the pie. Call an old friend. Pet a dog. https://twitter.com/dogsolutions/status/1064248064070885377?s=21
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Yes I know the origin, I have a BA in Political Science I paid too much money for, thank you very much. I love that we have so many polisci posters here (send us jobs please we're dying) Yeah. I think you're going to get your wish tbh, that article was so loving bad that it looks like there might be a big shake up in the magazine
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. Turkey, stuffing, green bean casserole with crispy onion bits, mashed potatoes, gravy, cranberry sauce, rolls. I think I'm missing something. Happy turkey day USPOL! I bought some cheap prosecco for today. https://i.imgur.com/Fuz1kmW.mp4 Discount Dracula fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Lightning Knight posted:I don't see how this contradicts what I said? The Constitution was written in the 1780s, I said that the hierarchy of racial superiority was fully entrenched by 1750. 1600-1700 is when you see the racial codes and laws come into force as you posted, so I would say that in 1600 "race" as a modern person would understand it did not exist and in 1700 it did. I guess my question is more what was your original point? My statement was that most people at the time were racist not that all people of the time were or that there was no push back. You accused me of presentism and mocked the "for their day" argument when weighing their decisions but for that to be the case there would have needed to be a substantial anti-racism movement at the time and there wasn't, even most of the critics of slavery at the time primarily favored resettling black slaves in Africa because they didn't think they could or should integrate with the American public which is a straight up racist opinion.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. Deviled eggs (and a hairy arm)
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar.
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People mad at the caravans do believe it was funded by somebody Soros or not, and they were educated on what US asylum laws are. Mexican memes have all but made them out to be ungrateful people who have spurned donations of food and supplies to them by common Mexicans.
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Skex posted:I guess my question is more what was your original point? My statement was that most people at the time were racist not that all people of the time were or that there was no push back. You accused me of presentism and mocked the "for their day" argument when weighing their decisions but for that to be the case there would have needed to be a substantial anti-racism movement at the time and there wasn't, even most of the critics of slavery at the time primarily favored resettling black slaves in Africa because they didn't think they could or should integrate with the American public which is a straight up racist opinion. I mean I wouldn't call it an "accusation," I was just pointing out that you said something to the effect of "everyone was racist back then" and it's a common rhetorical point to basically imply, perhaps not intentionally, that anti-racism is a purely modern concept and that race based caste systems were simply passively accepted by everyone until the mid-20th Century. I agree that many abolitionists of the period were indeed typically racist as well, and that racism and race-based caste systems are complicated. I guess I didn't have any kind of strong sweeping point, I was using your post to present a thing for the thread to think about. 
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Prester Jane posted:Tag yourself. I'm the dead vacant glare hovering above the pedostache. I'm Jeff Sessions weeping in the corner because I can't prosecute this guy for smoking weed anymore.
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An ironically appropriate story for Thanksgiving: https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1065526167720026112 You may have seen stories about the North Sentinelese before, they're the dudes who shot arrows at a helicopter that came to check if the tribe survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake/tsunami.  We know basically nothing about the tribe (not even the language they speak) because this is how they've reacted to every attempt at contact. The Indian Government has even passed a law that places a 3 mile exclusion zone around the island and bans all contact for both the safety of the islanders and to keep idiot missionaries from doing exactly what this guy did. Saladin Rising fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:Anyone who quotes this post with a picture of what they're cooking/eating for thanksgiving will get a nice happy new avatar. That's helpful.
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Saladin Rising posted:An ironically appropriate story for Thanksgiving: Dr. Jones, no!
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