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Lt. Lizard posted:So uh is Tribal kinslayer a new trait or did I just never noticed it before? Because its kinda silly. (- 5 general opinion, + 15 sex appeal) Please don’t kinkshame.
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pidan posted:Monks and Mystics and Holy Fury add a lot of role-playing options. Seconding these two, they really add to every playthrough.
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Torrannor posted:Most (all?) plots can't fire until there are at least three plotters. Invite more people. One of the murder bloodlines has a description that claims to let you plot by yourself, but I haven't tested it yet. e: Yep, HF.24113 has a 3000 month MTTH (can drop as low as 25.8 months with modifiers) to manually execute him yourself if you have the correct murder bloodline. The success of it has a pretty big modifier based upon how much more combat rating you have, in addition to the usual intrigue score. binge crotching fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Yadoppsi posted:I got into Paradox games through Stellaris and I was hoping to try Crusader Kings 2 and get started during the Steam winter sale. From watching a couple let's plays I think I'd most enjoy the role playing and being a character in history aspects of the game so I think the two DLCs I really need are Conclave and Way of Life. Does anybody recommend and the other essential DLCs for somebody just starting out? old gods unlocks pagans, who are more conquery and war focused than the default catholic feudals you have in vanilla ck2 if you have the money, old gods and holy fury are good to add if you want to do a more tradition paradox-style map painting as mentioned, monks and mystics (societies) and reaper's due (diseases) are probably good picks if you want to play ck2 more as a role playing game than a map conquering game none of the dlc are essentially really, all of them are good and worth getting. it's a question of how much cash you want to throw at the game. i'd say start with these dlc in this order and then stop when you have run out of money -way of life -conclave -monks and mystics -old gods -holy fury (if you got old gods) -reaper's due -sons of abraham -charlemagne -any of the specific dlc for playstyles like republics, muslims, nomads, etc. that seem interesting note that this isn't a dlc quality ranking but just what you should buy first to maximize your game per dollar if you want to play rpg ck2
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The only thing I would add to that is that Legacy of Rome adds Retinues and they are a very powerful tool. However, the AI doesn't seem to exploit them very much so the net effect may be to make the game easier.
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Argh, I really hate how there's nothing you can do to influence whether a wound becomes infected or not. Going back to court instead of continuing to fight and having a badass physician should at least give you a little better odds.
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Fat Samurai posted:Did he came pre-castrated? Don't think so.
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twistedmentat posted:That's some game of thrones stuff, but I'm sure that's pretty basic for what you can do later. Me a long time ago posted:I started out as the Count of Wurttemberg. I immediately set out with the goal of obtaining my own duchy. Though luck and God's favor, I quickly fabricated and claimed the counties of Baden and Breigsau. In addition I also secured a second barony in both Wurttemberg and Baden, the former by using intrigue focus to expose and imprison my childless Baron who was swiftly thrown in the oubliette, the latter baron, also childless, died of severe stress before I could do the same thing to him (guess he knew what was coming!). And thats nothing compared to what some people do. Still possibly the most evil I've been unless you count killing a couple children as part of a revenge plot because someone killed my child.
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For some reason, a few realms with my reformed enatic clans hellenism are ending up following agnatic open succession, which should not be available to them.
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Only major DLC you don't want is the Sunset Invasion one.
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zebez posted:Only major DLC you don't want is the Sunset Invasion one. Would you say it took away your ability to feel human?
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I keep antagonising the pope to make him my rival and then try to duel him, but he always chickens out. The caliph at least comes out to play when I do that to him. I once destabilized the Abbasids via a duel, but the thing was it came after I assassinated their current caliph and my involvement was discovered. This made me rival to his whole family and all, so I immediately challenged his son who inherited to a duel, as being rivals enabled that. (This was a while ago.) Because I was a badass from conquering Basically, my advice is to kill more of them, and faster. luxury handset posted:old gods unlocks pagans, who are more conquery and war focused than the default catholic feudals you have in vanilla ck2 A note, Holy Fury also unlocks pagans, but it doesn't unlock Zoroastrians or the 867 start date, which are Old Gods-only. Old Gods is still really good, but I feel that's worth pointing out. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Nov 24, 2018 |
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binge crotching posted:Would you say it took away your ability to feel human? Wtf do you even mean? No it did not?
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zebez posted:Wtf do you even mean? No it did not? Paradox Forums Nutter posted:October 31st, 2012 is a day I will always remember. It was the day I became cynical, bitter, and distraught. You may call it an overreaction for me to feel this way simply because of the business practices of a single video game company, but let me explain what all of this means to me.
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Man, Holy Fury has lots of little things to make playing as a woman more of a pain in the rear end than before. I got an intrigue decision to become celibate after a troublesome pregnancy. Cool, I've already got 6 kids, master seductress, and I'd really rather not die crapping out another little bastard so that's net gain for me. But apparently doing that deletes master seductress. I understand why but man it should really tell you beforehand especially because as a woman character losing 50 opinion with every character that matters is a bit of a problem.
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ulmont posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/casualisation-and-streamlining.647344/#post-14632431 this post wasn't actually earnest, i feel like I should point that out
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Nov 24, 2018 00:44
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binge crotching posted:One of the murder bloodlines has a description that claims to let you plot by yourself, but I haven't tested it yet. A thing to bear in mind about this is that it's an event that has a chance to fire in addition to the normal plotting events. So it basically adds a second roll to your chances of killing someone, raising the overall speed of plots.
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Couple of quick questions, currently doing an Ireland/Mumu run to get the basics back in my head with Holy Fury: 1) How do you get the bloodline ambition to be available? I think I've only even seen it as an option on one ruler this game, and it's like 1350 at this point. 2) I'm embarrassed to say how many hours I've played this game before realizing when you have the option to lock someone up, you can see why on their character sheet (stabbing, plotting a claim, etc). But now and then I've had a few people come up with the 'can be imprisoned' notification, and there's nothing showing as to why. Am I missing the reason elsewhere?
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Gobblecoque posted:Man, Holy Fury has lots of little things to make playing as a woman more of a pain in the rear end than before. I got an intrigue decision to become celibate after a troublesome pregnancy. Cool, I've already got 6 kids, master seductress, and I'd really rather not die crapping out another little bastard so that's net gain for me. But apparently doing that deletes master seductress. I understand why but man it should really tell you beforehand especially because as a woman character losing 50 opinion with every character that matters is a bit of a problem.
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Wolfechu posted:Couple of quick questions, currently doing an Ireland/Mumu run to get the basics back in my head with Holy Fury: 1) You need to have at least 5000 personal prestige. I don't think there's any requirement beyond that (I think you're also blocked if the character already has an ambition bloodline on them, even if they didn't create it themselves, but I'm not 100% on that). 2) Some of the reasons aren't immediately obvious - if they're discovered BACKING a plot it won't show on their main character page but it will show in the list of discovered plots on your intrigue page. This will still render them eligible for arrest.
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Animal kingdoms are all well and good, but has anyone had a random world with the skeletons or the Stellaris robots yet? My current game I've been stalling on becoming king because I want to be able to look back on the history tab and see when I was just a duke and not a full king, so I've just been burning through prestige upgrading my tribe. I got the option to declare an ambition, and I chose a new one I've never seen before: Improve moral authority - do three of the following, build a temple, win a holy war, convert a province, yadda yadda. Seems neat. I thought I'd have an easy target for a holy war, half of Britain has been tied up in a viking invasion (from Brittany, oddly enough) for a while now, most of England is occupied, and the war has been sitting at 99% for the invader for a while now. I figured I'd see what was taking so long, and the invader is caught up in another war where some Sverker guy is 60% of the way through an invasion of Britanny. Probably something about having all his men tied up in England. Very annoying to me, because that means I don't have a holy war target. I kinda wish I hadn't destroyed a couple churches on raids, but maybe they shouldn't be keeping all that money in churches in the first place. I've been leaving a couple fraticelli provinces around to with the idea of maybe converting later to have a vassal pope, but now I may have to clean up just to keep christianity alive.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:1) You need to have at least 5000 personal prestige. I don't think there's any requirement beyond that (I think you're also blocked if the character already has an ambition bloodline on them, even if they didn't create it themselves, but I'm not 100% on that). Thanks - I'll have to check when I get home, but I know my current guy is at over 7000 prestige, because I'm trying to nudge it up to 8000 to form an empire. It's likely the existing ambition bloodline then, as there's been one in the family for centuries at this point. 2) I've seen cases like that, where it's someone backing a plot, but generally you can right click on their portrait and say 'stop backing plot' instead of 'end plot' and it'll sort itself out. I'll have to see if I get one of these specifically again. I know there was at least one where I had maybe a 1-2% chance to imprison, didn't want to deal with a rebellion at the time, and couldn't ask them to stop because it wasn't clear what they did wrong. That guy, of course, got stabbed to death, which also clears the 'can imprison' alert.
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quote:Animal kingdoms are all well and good, but has anyone had a random world with the skeletons or the Stellaris robots yet? The skeletons screenshot was a mod gone weird, the Synthetic Dawn easter egg is EU4, not CK2....at least, for the moment. I'm sure someone's working on that.
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Spaseman posted:Killing a child or baby really should have a negative modifier of its own. It does, mostly. If you execute a child you get a -10 malus.
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Jedit posted:It does, mostly. If you execute a child you get a -10 malus. Does that apply to being discovered after a murder plot concludes?
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Is it worth picking up this game on the steam sale to someone new to the genre? I love boardgames and the only other game I've played even close to like this is Civ.
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Wolfechu posted:Thanks - I'll have to check when I get home, but I know my current guy is at over 7000 prestige, because I'm trying to nudge it up to 8000 to form an empire. It's likely the existing ambition bloodline then, as there's been one in the family for centuries at this point. Another common thing that leads to imprisonment justifications that isn't immediately obvious on the character sheet is if they were caught cuckolding you. Check your opinion of the courtier, a number of big opinion maluses go along with imprisonment justifications.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:And thats nothing compared to what some people do. Still possibly the most evil I've been unless you count killing a couple children as part of a revenge plot because someone killed my child. Man, the most Crusader King I've got was seducing my daughter-in-law so that my chaste gay son would have an heir.
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moush posted:Is it worth picking up this game on the steam sale to someone new to the genre? I love boardgames and the only other game I've played even close to like this is Civ. this game owns hard enough that people are still excited about it seven years after it was released. it's unique and amazing. imo it's worth a ten dollar gamble to see if it clicks for you or not
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The Cheshire Cat posted:1) You need to have at least 5000 personal prestige. I don't think there's any requirement beyond that (I think you're also blocked if the character already has an ambition bloodline on them, even if they didn't create it themselves, but I'm not 100% on that). 1) Looking at the code, you're correct - if you already have a forged bloodline on that character then you cannot take the ambition again. Also, you can take the ambition with 2500 prestige if you're am Ambitious, Quick, Genius, Wilful, or Proud...child. 2) As far as I know, every valid imprisonment reason will show up as an opinion you have of them (that is, the second of the two boxes near your picture on their character sheet, if you're their liege). If one is not immediately obvious, check there.
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moush posted:Is it worth picking up this game on the steam sale to someone new to the genre? I love boardgames and the only other game I've played even close to like this is Civ. I would say yes, because that's what I did and I loving love the game, even though the only strategy games I've played before are Age of Mythology/Empires. It's not too expensive just to pick up and play around with to see if you like it.
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My gay wife kept giving me daughters until I enforced her claim to become queen of Northumbria. Then she had a son and took all the kids with her so I couldn't use the daughters for alliances and dynasty spreading OR control my son's future marriage.
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moush posted:Is it worth picking up this game on the steam sale to someone new to the genre? I love boardgames and the only other game I've played even close to like this is Civ. It’s fun, though I’d compare it more to RPGs than board games. There are a lot of random elements that will screw with you, but it can be really fun to do badly in his game. Getting imprisoned for decades by your rival sucks, but it makes it feel oh so sweet to get revenge on his family once you get out. I’ve never been able to get hooked on Civ but that role play element is what caught me with this game. That said, I actually quite like the mechanics of war, as straightforward as they are.
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moush posted:Is it worth picking up this game on the steam sale to someone new to the genre? I love boardgames and the only other game I've played even close to like this is Civ. Go for it. I think it's one of the best options for someone new to the genre. Like you I had only played Civ, but tried to get in to Hearts of Iron and EU and a few other Paradox grand strategy games. They always ended up sounding cooler than they were to actually play, probably because there are a ton of mechanics to master all on a huge scale that all seem equally important. CK does have that high end complexity when you want to get into it, but it also lets the player scale up their involvement starting from the bottom. You start off solving problems you can get your head around like - "I need a wife that doesn't want to kill me", "What kind of literate non idiots can I get together to help run my country". Watch a little bit of youtube and start in Ireland or do the in game tutorial. Don't worry if you feel like you don't know what the hell you are doing, most medieval rulers didn't know poo poo either. Just blunder through doing whatever you want, don't worry about making mistakes.
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The game's also super helpful with tooltips and the like. I have never known a company like Paradox for putting extra information just about anywhere you mouse over. Now, finding the exact bit of information you want is gonna take practice, but it's all there somewhere.
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CommissarMega posted:Man, the most Crusader King I've got was seducing my daughter-in-law so that my chaste gay son would have an heir. In one of our early multiplayer games, I hosed up badly and wound up with one or two counties in northern Italy. I had three sons, two of whom were already engaged or married, when I noticed that the elderly king of Germany had a single daughter as his sole heir, and his wife was also elderly. "A-ha!" I said. "A plan forms. I'll marry my youngest son to his daughter, and change my own succession law to Ultimogeniture, and after a generation, I'll bounce back from my earlier dumbassery and be ruler over the kingdom of the Germans!" My plan, of course, hinged quite heavily upon the King dying before his wife. Obviously, this didn't happen, and she died shortly after the marriage. The AI more or less immediately married a nubile 16 year old, potentially destroying all of my hard work. The poor young lady simply had to die. ...........................................long story short, I murdered 8 successive Queens of Germany.
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I'm currently in the middle of a Pope murder spree because I'm trying to get a satanist Pope so I can diplomatically vassalize them. And I've managed to get TWO satanists into the position only for them to either immediately loving die, or get involved in a decade long Jihad and croak before ever being at peace.
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Kemper Boyd posted:In my Byz game I noticed that Basileios' dad is sitting around in court, with bad stats and no usefulness, cramping my style. So I sold off my dad to China. The Makedon start? I married him to the Queen of Italy once. They had one kid and then an epidemic killed her and then kid, so I inherited Italy. Loved that old dude since then.
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I will say, the antagonise button is amazing. For about a century now, my Irish rulers have been making GBS threads on a chain of English kings, just to kill time between truces expiring. Most of them have been pretty stoic about it, but the current guy gets super pissed off, and half the time challenges me to a duel. His PCS is negative, so he either gets knocked on his rear end or adds another scar to his collection. I was kinda hoping I'd end up goading him into breaking the truce, but this is just as much fun.
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