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I’ve only seen video of it, but there’s an old Japanese city builder series that basically has a lot of political and detailed stuff. It’s a city builder set on a space colony (the kind that’s a city in a space station) and is themed around Japanese city politics, I think? It’s real neat but it’s probably a slog to play by modern standards. From what I understand you also get to control some real fine details about how the space colony is run, too, like scheduling spaceflights to Earth/the moon, and even set artificial day/night and weather schedules(?) https://youtu.be/CzPVtd3MzMc https://youtu.be/5dEVar8E3Ro
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VostokProgram posted:Not content to rest on their laurels after the recent Cities Skylines: Socialism With Chinese Characteristics expansion, Colossal Order now announce the Cities Skylines: Republican Virtues expansion. Features include: Finally, someone stepping up and making Caesar 5!
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah but that's typical "seedy underbelly" stuff. It's quite a lot different when you claim that real world, modern day genocides are actually being guided by your fictional magical people who are the protagonists of your setting. I just read the book on Montreal, calling it seedy underbelly stuff is a laughable understatement. Also, it's canon that Himmler became a member of the Clan Tremere at the end of the war. White Wolf has always been like this.
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I thought vampires keep out of human affairs? I don't think Himmler could've resisted the temptation to turn as much of the army as he could into hard to kill blood mages.
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Relevant to the crown artifact discussion: when I reformed Zunist my sun-queen got a sweet crown that's exclusively for the head of the Church of Zun.
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Charlz Guybon posted:I just read the book on Montreal, calling it seedy underbelly stuff is a laughable understatement. I think the issue is less "weird, alternate contemporary history" which is completely fair as a form of fiction even when done badly and more "the nuWW guys have been dogwhistling weird reactionary politics for quite a while." I mean, even as a LGBT fellow, what bothered me about this whole Chechnya business is not the fact that the purges are mentioned, or that they are minimized because there's a Secret Occult Conspiracy, but the feeling that the whole thing was a weird islamophobic pot shot using LGBT people as ammunition. Vampires are supposed to be above all this crap except for silly neonates which is the tone old Vampire books took when talking about real life religion/politics. Now, to bring it more back on topic, I think this is an excellent opportunity for the Paradox Dev Studio to get their mitts on White Wolf stuff and incorporate it in their games. The Dark Ages expansion pack with a whole "night map mode" almost writes itself
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Pacho posted:Now, to bring it more back on topic, I think this is an excellent opportunity for the Paradox Dev Studio to get their mitts on White Wolf stuff and incorporate it in their games. The Dark Ages expansion pack with a whole "night map mode" almost writes itself What exactly ARE Paradox Publishing's plans for WW anyway? Do we even know? Like the Eve people wanted to make an MMO with the setting and when that didn't pan out they sold them off, so they clearly had fairly solid intentions for the property when they picked it up. It seems like Paradox... doesn't really. Even though some kind of CK-esque vampire game where you play the as a vampire dealing with the various machinations of WoD city politics could be really interesting, I don't know if they actually have any plans for Paradox Interactive with the White Wolf stuff at all.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:What exactly ARE Paradox Publishing's plans for WW anyway? Well first and foremost, they're going to stop them from pushing far-right bullshit, and the rest can be figured out later.
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I originally assumed they'd make a variant of CK2 with it, but now I dunno.
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I am eagerly awaiting Paradox actually doing something really out of the left field awesome like a Mage game or hell anything other than Vampire
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dead comedy forums posted:I am eagerly awaiting Paradox actually doing something really out of the left field awesome like a Mage game or hell anything other than Vampire Wraith: The Oblivion themed expansion for Hearts of Iron
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After having owned Victoria 2 for a while and buying all the DLC for it in this last sale, I finally want to give it a go. I popped in as Texas and that already had me in some poo poo. Is there a good recommended country I can pick that will let me play around peacefully and watch the world burn elsewhere? I don't imagine starting at war is good for a first game.
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-Dethstryk- posted:After having owned Victoria 2 for a while and buying all the DLC for it in this last sale, I finally want to give it a go. I popped in as Texas and that already had me in some poo poo. Brazil. You'll only get in a war if you choose to so you can focus on learning the internal part of the game.
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Agean90 posted:Brazil. You'll only get in a war if you choose to so you can focus on learning the internal part of the game. That sounds perfect, thanks. I was mostly surprised after loading it up. I've spent hundreds of hours across HOI4, EU4, CK2, and Stellaris... Victoria 2's interface seemed way more alien than I figured it would be. Though that makes sense, because the mechanics guiding the game are different and that is pretty exciting.
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Hremsfeld posted:Well first and foremost, they're going to stop them from pushing far-right bullshit, and the rest can be figured out later. I've heard rumors that Mark Rein*Hagen, weird-punctuation-not-a-typo, currently-hanging-out-in-post-Soviet-Georgia was responsible via contract for the worst of the new writing but most people blame someone named Martin "Swedracula" Ericsson, who apparently does not mind having the worst nickname ever. The SA WoD thread is probably the best place for this sort of gossip tho. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712435 which has this great summary UrbicaMortis posted:It's honestly astonishing that paradox, a company that regularly puts out historical games where existing nations battle it out, has finally created an international incident and it's via their vampire rpg side- property. Since this all blew up the Russians/Chechens had a press conference! Foglet posted:Well, the press conference is over. I eagerly await the World of Darkness: Great Hero Kadyrov sourcebook where Dear Leader Ramzan saves young ladies from western vampires, punches tigers in the face, and turns Grozny into Wakanda. Demiurge4 posted:I originally assumed they'd make a variant of CK2 with it, but now I dunno. CK2 already has immortal satanist cults in the main game though! Not QUITE vampires but it's vampire-adjacent. Lum_ fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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-Dethstryk- posted:After having owned Victoria 2 for a while and buying all the DLC for it in this last sale, I finally want to give it a go. I popped in as Texas and that already had me in some poo poo. Prussia is usually recommended as the starting country just because it kind of shows you the whole game. You don't immediately start at #1 like with Britain but you're so strong that the conflicts you'll encounter you will almost certainly win, so it has a nice satisfying progression going form Prussia -> Germany without actually being too challenging to do.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Prussia is usually recommended as the starting country just because it kind of shows you the whole game. You don't immediately start at #1 like with Britain but you're so strong that the conflicts you'll encounter you will almost certainly win, so it has a nice satisfying progression going form Prussia -> Germany without actually being too challenging to do. I actually don't like Prussia as a starter country because up until you defeat AH in the Brothers' War, micromanaging influence is important, and if you're don't know what you're doing and don't pick up on the system for a while it can cause you big headaches later when you're trying to unify Germany any way other than the Gutter Crown. I think Brazil is a better choice.
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Pakled posted:I actually don't like Prussia as a starter country because up until you defeat AH in the Brothers' War, micromanaging influence is important, and if you're don't know what you're doing and don't pick up on the system for a while it can cause you big headaches later when you're trying to unify Germany any way other than the Gutter Crown. I think Brazil is a better choice. I can't be the only one who learned how to handle Vic, EU and HoI by loving up? How are you supposed to know the layers of combat, diplomacy or whatever if you don't dip your toes into nations where these are challenges?
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The Cheshire Cat posted:What exactly ARE Paradox Publishing's plans for WW anyway? well, it was revitalizing the swedish larp scene but the dude who wanted to do that is now out on his ear so who knows his nickname of "swedracula" is not, to my knowledge, used to his face or by people who like him, though Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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Mans posted:I can't be the only one who learned how to handle Vic, EU and HoI by loving up? It's easier to learn one thing at a time then it is to have everything hosed up at once and having to figure out what exact fuckup is causing your current problems. Prussia is a great second nation.
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Brazil's also a great starting nation for HoI. You've got enough industrial capacity to build a couple things at once, but without getting overwhelmed by choices; you've got the oceans between you and Europe, but you've got coasts so you can get your happy selves over to Britain to help out when it's time for D-Day. Plus, if someone tries to declare on you unexpectedly, the US'll kick 'em in the dick.
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Hremsfeld posted:Brazil's also a great starting nation for HoI. You've got enough industrial capacity to build a couple things at once, but without getting overwhelmed by choices; you've got the oceans between you and Europe, but you've got coasts so you can get your happy selves over to Britain to help out when it's time for D-Day. Plus, if someone tries to declare on you unexpectedly, the US'll kick 'em in the dick. At least in Victoria Brazil can actually do something, if you told a new player to try Brazil for their first HOI4 game they would be bored to tears
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420 Gank Mid posted:At least in Victoria Brazil can actually do something, if you told a new player to try Brazil for their first HOI4 game they would be bored to tears
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brazil in HOI4 requires you to make your own fun because it's absolutely lacking in any prompt to actually do anything beyond vaguely continuing to exist. that's a problem with ROTW countries in general in HOI, and even some of the expansion content (canada, australia) has serious problems with it.
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Lol if you don't conquer the entire Western hemisphere with Brazil in hoi4
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even that isn't very interesting because of how passive everyone is. unless you accidentally push someone into the allies, nobody in south or central america will show much concern about the rise of brazilian fascism or the fact that you conquered all of their neighbors on a thin pretext.
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Don't coward out, your first game should be making Haiti a Great Power.
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Corbeau posted:Don't coward out, your first game should be making Haiti a Great Power. This was literally my first game of Vicky 1, also my first Paradox game
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Corbeau posted:Don't coward out, your first game should be making Bhutan a Great Power.
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Corbeau posted:Don't coward out, your first game should be making Haiti a Great Power. I mean if you don’t play Vicky with the explicit purpose of kicking Frances rear end with Haiti what are you even doing.
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Cease to Hope posted:even that isn't very interesting because of how passive everyone is. unless you accidentally push someone into the allies, nobody in south or central america will show much concern about the rise of brazilian fascism or the fact that you conquered all of their neighbors on a thin pretext. In my experience they end up joining the allies pretty quickly even without the US guarantees, especially if you're really ramping up world tension by justifying war goals on Brazil as Argentina. But it isn't all that thrilling to play since South America either turns into a slog if you wait too long or it's a walk in the park if you attack early. It is however a good lesson on fighting in rough terrain, ie use overwhelming air power and naval invasions rather than grinding your armies into the jungles and mountains. There is something nice though about bludgeoning your way through Panama up into Mexico and then invading the US.
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I took a look at Brazil and I dont even know how you conquer anything because the whole hemisphere is guaranteed by the US.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I took a look at Brazil and I dont even know how you conquer anything because the whole hemisphere is guaranteed by the US. It's only a guarantee against non-western aggressors. In fact it makes conquering all of South America incredibly easy because nobody else will guarantee them. The only thing you have to worry about is the handful of communist or fascist countries joining their respective factions.
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The US does get a focus that allows them to intervene in wars between American countries, and once they pick that they will not hesitate to do so. But if you're quick or lucky you can get most of South America conquered before you have to deal with them.
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Unless you have ahistorical focuses, at which point the US beelines that tree.
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Now that ck2 is finally done with is it time for Victoria 3
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Stairmaster posted:Now that ck2 is finally done with is it time for Victoria 3 I hope they incorporate the war and economy analyzer into the base game, we need M O R E pie charts 
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I hope Vicky 3 changes the game mechanics each time you play so you can never know how the game works. It's more authentic to the time period.
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It reveals as you research different techs but sometimes the tool tip is flat out wrong because your economics research was done by someone who insists that it will trickle down
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