|
spaceblancmange posted:No one should be doing this. He had one line in a season 24 ep where Homer calls him and gets his answering machine, he just says 'This is Herbert Powell, I'm poor again' or something like that, so Homer hangs up.
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 14:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 17:24 |
|
|
“honey you should listen to your heart and not the voices in your head, like a certain uncle did one gray December morn” “Your uncle Arthur used to have a saying , ‘shoot em all and let god sort em out. Unfortunately one day he put his theory into practice. It took 75 federal marshals to bring him down. Now let’s never speak of him again” That 45 second gag had more jokes in it than the entire drag queen episode . Also RIP uncle Arthur
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 15:28
|
|
|
Sponge?!
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 15:47
|
|
|
LoL giving the kids a rich uncle has to possibility for so many stories and they just wrote him out of the show poochie style that’s amazing. Family Guy 1-3 are still really funny, but 4-5 are still not super mean. Bob’s Burgers has an amazing Season 1-3 but after that the episodes really start to blend together for me and it’s probably the most formulaic of the cartoon family shows. Futurama 1-4 is pretty much a perfect balance of strong writing, great sight gags, and the cast just genuinely killing it every time. The movies and the reboot are DOGSHIT, with maybe 3-4 ever cresting to “probably the worst good episodes” American Dad 2-10 is rock loving solid comedy and I forgive Seth MacFarlane for being an insipid hoser with a fetish for 50’s big band music. My true life confession is that I genuinely enjoyed and laughed at The Cleveland Show more than anything else besides original run Futurama. I think Cleveland is the funniest cartoon dad ever because his personality is multifaceted, as opposed to Peter, Homer and Stan. Bob Belcher had great moments of character development and insight in the first 3 seasons but then it just becomes the Kristen Schaal screaming variety half hour.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 15:52
|
|
|
fatal oopsie-daisy posted:the latest episode is now on one of those weird edited channels but you still get the gist of how bad it is When are they gonna get to the jokes factory
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 17:37
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:Futurama 1-4 is pretty much a perfect balance of strong writing, great sight gags, and the cast just genuinely killing it every time. The movies and the reboot are DOGSHIT, with maybe 3-4 ever cresting to “probably the worst good episodes”
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 18:43
|
|
|
When people look back on Futurama seasons 1-4 they tend to remember the high concept sci-fi and emotional episodes, but there are indeed many that have a very standard adult animated sitcom vibe and don't use the setting and premise to any advantage. They're still funny, though. The first two seasons of Rick and Morty were so great because it was like if Futurama only consisted of those episodes. It sucks that it got a toxic fanbase and went up its own rear end in season 3, though. Bust Rodd posted:Bob’s Burgers has an amazing Season 1-3 but after that the episodes really start to blend together for me and it’s probably the most formulaic of the cartoon family shows. I actually think Bob's Burgers started improving around season 5 or 6-ish when they decided to tone down the constant yelling from the characters. Louise for example used to only speak in screams and now she usually speaks soft and subdued. Other than that though, I'm impressed with how well it has remained consistent, but you're right, it does all kind of run together because of how unflinching they've been with their formula. I would say almost 2/3rds of all episodes involve some kind of adventure that's somehow still interesting enough to watch, though, making it the perfect filler show to me. Another thing I can respect about Bob's Burgers is their unrelenting focus on positivity. No one on the show is ever a truly bad person, even people who are caught robbing Bob's restaurant. It's very refreshing when nearly every other animated sitcom has a strong focus on mean spirited humor and negativity. But this does also add to the formulaic feel, since you know no episode will have a truly sad or negative ending.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 19:03
|
|
|
I still think Rick and Morty is good, but you need to avoid anyone who talks about it Personally I find Bob’s Burgers boring
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 19:25
|
|
|
I watched the entirety of the drag queen episode out of morbid curiosity, and it wasn't as offensively bad as I was expecting. It was just...boring and bland. The Lisa B plot was somehow worse than the drag queen A plot, since it was just confusing and pointless and went nowhere. I almost chuckled once in the episode, at the gay guy dropping his accent for seriousness. My girlfriend is into drag queen culture a lot and watched it with me, she didn't enjoy it either but there was one joke in the episode she laughed at cus it was some kind of drag queen in-joke apparently. I didn't get it and can't remember what it was, though. fatal oopsie-daisy posted:I still think Rick and Morty is good, but you need to avoid anyone who talks about it Yeah R&M is still solid, season 3 is as good as the others but it was definitely when the fanbase hit critical mass in annoying and obnoxious.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 19:56
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:
I had wished they'd done a bit more with Mort after Cleveland left because he and Cleveland both sort of filled a similar niche in the Peter/Quagmire/Joe/_____ collective. They seemed to keep auditioning characters for that hole and none of them ever really feel like they fit or they stayed or were welcome. Either that, or the Cleveland Show had been The Mort Show with the ONLY difference in concept being Mort/Neil and keeping everything else the same. For some reason they could have worked some of Mort/Neil's character traits into the show's stories a bit better.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 19:58
|
|
|
Bobs burgers owns but it really lacks the satirical edge that keeps it from true greatness. That said, I'm mostly fine because there's enough negativity and cynicism in the world currently. Also, it's completely unrealistic. There's no way what i assume to be the new jersey coast is that great
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 19:59
|
|
|
The fan theory about Bob's Burgers is that everyone is in dead and in Heaven. They're just in Heaven's Jersey.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 20:06
|
|
|
CodfishCartographer posted:My girlfriend is into drag queen culture a lot and watched it with me, she didn't enjoy it either but there was one joke in the episode she laughed at cus it was some kind of drag queen in-joke apparently. I didn't get it and can't remember what it was, though. I'll go out on a limb and say it was Sideshow Mel saying his bone was taped between his legs
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 20:12
|
|
|
I stand buy the early seasons of family guy too. It had the fast paced back to back jokes like harvey birdman or the first time you see a movie like airplane. Now they just make everyone as mean as possible and dont even dress up the references. I think the lois as Rocky episode finally killed it for me. While there were some ok jokes from the futurama movies and later seasons none of the emotion episodes really hit for me and just felt forced, like they flipped the maudlin switch on the mash robot. Uncle Wemus fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 25, 2018 |
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 20:13
|
|
|
The early Simpsons episodes I can't stand are the ones that have Lisa depressed and whining over everything. I understand that she's was supposed to be a young intelligent little girl and that's probably typical for someone her age but I don't want to watch a show about a depressed little girl. They eventually stop doing that with Lisa as much. Granted it's only some episodes but all through seasons 1 - 3 Even the birthday one with Micheal Jackson starts with Lisa being depressed. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 22:05
|
|
|
spaceblancmange posted:Fair call, 'Old Money' was a bit of a dud too (not the I can't hate the episode, since it has so much drat heart in 22 precious minutes, but no jokes is no laughing matter. I'm also madly in love with your Skid Vicious avatar, he's so dreamy. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 22:19
|
|
kind). The show was still finding its feet in season 2 which is light years ahead of the first.
|
Phlegmish posted:Recently watched that one and it's pretty bad, yeah. I heard a few people blame it on 1990 network TV and they didn't want to get in trouble for encouraging that kind of thing. The problem is that it was on FOX and The Simpsons didn't get network notes. It's probably more likely that writers want Honeymooners/Flinstones marriage drama episodes and people were really weird about anything resembling sexiness in media back then. DropsySufferer posted:The early Simpsons episodes I can't stand are the ones that have Lisa depressed and whining over everything. I understand that she's was supposed to be a young intelligent little girl and that's probably typical for someone her age but I don't want to watch a show about a depressed little girl. They eventually stop doing that with Lisa as much. Granted it's only some episodes but all through seasons 1 - 3 Even the birthday one with Micheal Jackson starts with Lisa being depressed. It bothered me more that it never developed. The worst I remembered was when Lisa had an "eating disorder" (she didn't want to eat much). Not much came of it, and at the end, there was a potentially good line where Homer was like "Well, that's resolved" and Lisa had a line that's like "it's a serious issue dad, it's not just going to disappear from me." It came off as a rip of Very Special Episodes back then, but then the Simpsons never really brought it up again, either.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 23:08
|
|
|
I adore Golden Age Simpsons and it's one of my favorite *things* of all time. That said, yeah, I feel like the original run of Futurama's average episode is better than the average episode of the Simpsons from that period, and that its highs are higher, too. The original series finale is, quite frankly, one of the best series finales of all time. It's funny, touching, provides a great sense of closure and also creates the paradoxical sense that the adventures continue all the same. That and All Good Things from Star Trek TNG may well be the best series finales of all time. They are just perfect at both giving closure and yet a sense that things continue all the same, even if we're not privy to see them, and also are just really good episodes of their respective series that also more or less fully encapsulate every single thing that made those series good.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 23:59
|
|
|
Futurama > The Simpsons. The Life and Times of Tim is right up there with Futurama as well.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 00:06
|
|
|
Speaking of series finales, back in 2011 when there was a contract dispute between Fox and the main voice actors there was a serious belief the show could end. So much so that this episode was written as a potential series finale if that ever happened (it ended up being the Christmas episode that season). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holidays_of_Future_Passed It makes me wonder exactly how this show is going to end when it eventually does and if they do a "X years later" style story which seems logical at this point.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 05:25
|
|
|
Justin Godscock posted:Speaking of series finales, back in 2011 when there was a contract dispute between Fox and the main voice actors there was a serious belief the show could end. So much so that this episode was written as a potential series finale if that ever happened (it ended up being the Christmas episode that season). I worked on a food truck and one of our regulars worked at the local PBS affiliate. She got to interview Shearer and apparently he just rags on the show all the time and apparently hinted it was on its way out but nothing ever came of it. I think this was 4 or 5 years ago.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 05:36
|
|
|
Justin Godscock posted:Speaking of series finales, back in 2011 when there was a contract dispute between Fox and the main voice actors there was a serious belief the show could end. So much so that this episode was written as a potential series finale if that ever happened (it ended up being the Christmas episode that season). That was the last time I can remember a good joke from the show "I'm Santa? Oh... now I'll never die"
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 05:48
|
|
|
Justin Godscock posted:Speaking of series finales, back in 2011 when there was a contract dispute between Fox and the main voice actors there was a serious belief the show could end. So much so that this episode was written as a potential series finale if that ever happened (it ended up being the Christmas episode that season). That was a good episode, but it has the "Lisa marries Milhouse" future timeline, which is the worst
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 05:52
|
|
|
I seem to recall some quote from someone on the show about the contract dispute that was along the lines of, "You can make hundreds of thousands of dollars an episode and still get screwed over." But I don't know what the full context of this might be or what it was referring to. I'm thinking maybe royalties on merchandising which might pull in more per year than the actual show does.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 05:53
|
|
|
Remember when Marge was the Playboy centerfold Like, in real life, not in the show
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 07:06
|
|
|
oh my god they actually showed her loving nips  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsddaPJw33A what the gently caress man why
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 07:12
|
|
|
Also the front page had Marge in the same pose that the first black woman on the Playboy cover had.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 07:18
|
|
|
They should have put Lois in Hustler
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 07:26
|
|
|
Well, they did show Bart Simpson's dick in the movie as a shock joke so I'm not terribly surprised they went that low.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 07:27
|
|
|
Justin Godscock posted:Well, they did show Bart Simpson's dick in the movie as a shock joke so I'm not terribly surprised they went that low. I never took that as a shock joke, more of a joke about how ridiculous the trope of "conveniently-placed objects always cover up naked bits" that movies / TV shows do. I guess it was kind of shock jokey.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 07:57
|
|
|
Futurama was loving brilliant in many ways, but it will always be marred by having a "will they won't they" romance that spanned its entire run. That is the worst trope.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 09:06
|
|
|
Zulily Zoetrope posted:Futurama was loving brilliant in many ways, but it will always be marred by having a "will they won't they" romance that spanned its entire run. That is the worst trope. Also everytime the series came back it had to break them up so it could keep doing it.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 10:46
|
|
|
fatal oopsie-daisy posted:oh my god I'm actually rather impressed with how they drew the cloth drapery there What a price to pay though
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 13:51
|
|
|
fatal oopsie-daisy posted:oh my god Matt Groening drew these himself. He based the Simpsons on his family, so Marge was based on his mother.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 14:59
|
|
|
PostNouveau posted:Matt Groening drew these himself. Incest porn is the most watched porn genre in the US these days.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 15:00
|
|
|
Zulily Zoetrope posted:Futurama was loving brilliant in many ways, but it will always be marred by having a "will they won't they" romance that spanned its entire run. That is the worst trope. Oh God I hate those. Just gently caress already, this isn't the 60s or whatever where you can't actually imply sex exists on TV.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 15:01
|
|
|
Zulily Zoetrope posted:Futurama was loving brilliant in many ways, but it will always be marred by having a "will they won't they" romance that spanned its entire run. That is the worst trope. They're pretty much dating in the Comedy Central years. It's just kind of a low simmer of a relationship. Also Matt Groening's new show has this too, hopefully they drop it in the second season.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 15:04
|
|
|
Vincent Van Goatse posted:Oh God I hate those. Just gently caress already, this isn't the 60s or whatever where you can't actually imply sex exists on TV. Worse than that, I'd say that trope is in large part responsible for the incel-ish mindset that "if you just hang around the object of your affection for years on end and constantly wear down her defenses, eventually she will give you a chance"
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 15:30
|
|
|
steinrokkan posted:The original run of Futurama was better than any period in The Simpsons' history. Discuss. Futurama S1-4 > Simpsons S2-6 > Later Futurama > Later Simpsons I haven't watched S1 Simpsons in too long to remember 
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 15:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 17:24 |
|
|
PostNouveau posted:Also Matt Groening's new show has this too, hopefully they drop it in the second season. It’s also the worst part of that show, and it has nowhere near the same humor or charm to outweigh it that Futurama did.
|
|
#
?
Nov 26, 2018 15:42
|
|