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Hunt11 posted:I do like the idea of all of Trump's kids turning on their monster of a father individually. Mod edit: nope (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mod edit nope Somebody fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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Nov 27, 2018 03:11
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No Somebody fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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Nov 27, 2018 03:16
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Lol if the investigation could have been over months ago except for the tangled web of co-conspirators each desperately scrambling to rat each other out.
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Nov 27, 2018 03:21
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https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/1067229758562476033
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Nov 27, 2018 03:31
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Hey ya’ll read the thread rules and also D&D rules.
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Nov 27, 2018 03:33
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Ay to, Banon? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 27, 2018 03:54
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Note to self. I can tear gas my nieces if someone is holding them. Christ, these people are monsters.
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Nov 27, 2018 04:22
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eke out posted:
How likely is it they drag it out till the forms are printed? Can anything be done to prevent this?
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Nov 27, 2018 06:48
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Spoke Lee posted:How likely is it they drag it out till the forms are printed? Can anything be done to prevent this? They could eventually piss off the judge so much that he or she blows up and gives them a one-week warning before everybody goes to pokey for contempt. But that's relatively unlikely.
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Nov 27, 2018 13:07
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Spoke Lee posted:How likely is it they drag it out till the forms are printed? Can anything be done to prevent this? That’s what they are trying to do but appeals courts will not give them the stay they’re asking for to do it, at least not before the trial court renders a verdict. Or maybe the 17th time will be the charm.
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Nov 27, 2018 13:24
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Apparently Facebook knew in 2014 that the Russians were feasting on their data (from the UK thread):
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Nov 27, 2018 13:33
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evilweasel posted:That’s what they are trying to do but appeals courts will not give them the stay they’re asking for to do it, at least not before the trial court renders a verdict. Or maybe the 17th time will be the charm. So the administration needs a stay to add the question before printing? I was under the impression a stay was needed to stop the question from being added.
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Nov 27, 2018 14:31
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Spoke Lee posted:So the administration needs a stay to add the question before printing? I was under the impression a stay was needed to stop the question from being added. The administration's goal is to run out the clock on any decision at all before it's too late. They assume that the trial court is going to rule against them, which will make it harder to use a run out the clock strategy because the presumption is going to be that if the trial court ruled against them, it shouldn't be added unless that decision is actually overturned.
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Nov 27, 2018 14:40
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In a normal world sure, but this is the Hellfucker 2018 Earth alternate dimension. What's to stop them from just doing it anyway? I mean literally stop them. That's been a bit of a habit with Hair Furor running things, so what part of this has actual consequences and enforcement lined up to stop it?
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Nov 27, 2018 14:46
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MickeyFinn posted:Apparently Facebook knew in 2014 that the Russians were feasting on their data (from the UK thread): quote:Collins brings up the Six4Three documents that parliament has received, but says that “we don’t intend to publish them today”. lol "They're a hostile litigant" isn't the greatest defense when the information isn't coming from Six4Three, it's coming from internal facebook emails and documents that they had possession of and turned over against their will
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Nov 27, 2018 14:53
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Anyone involved with going ahead going to jail
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evilweasel posted:That’s what they are trying to do but appeals courts will not give them the stay they’re asking for to do it, at least not before the trial court renders a verdict. Or maybe the 17th time will be the charm. I have to imagine that the courts would be extraordinarily hostile to the argument that "welp we can't re-print the forms!" considering that the judge has accused the DoC of trying to get the case delayed to the point that they could make such a claim and the DoC has claimed that they are in no way trying to do that.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:03
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Nov 27, 2018 15:31
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Shifty Pony posted:I have to imagine that the courts would be extraordinarily hostile to the argument that "welp we can't re-print the forms!" considering that the judge has accused the DoC of trying to get the case delayed to the point that they could make such a claim and the DoC has claimed that they are in no way trying to do that. i don't know why we'd think the judge is mad abo--- https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1067426010948399105 oh right lol
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Nov 27, 2018 15:35
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eke out posted:i don't know why we'd think the judge is mad abo--- Is everyone in this administration bad at their jobs? Oh, right, there was a mass exodus the minute Trump went into office.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:45
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Every stunt Manafort pulls just screams blissfully incompetent yet incredibly dangerous. He shouldn’t be in charge of an easy bake oven.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:50
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teen witch posted:Every stunt Manafort pulls just screams blissfully incompetent yet incredibly dangerous. He shouldn’t be in charge of an easy bake oven. Soon he'll be in charge of... Nothing.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:53
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Mustached Demon posted:Soon he'll be in charge of... Nothing. Or it's going to go like the producers and we'll see him running a student body election for the daughter of the warden.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:59
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Shifty Pony posted:I have to imagine that the courts would be extraordinarily hostile to the argument that "welp we can't re-print the forms!" considering that the judge has accused the DoC of trying to get the case delayed to the point that they could make such a claim and the DoC has claimed that they are in no way trying to do that. The DOJ knows they've burned every bridge with every judge that might review this case, except the Supreme Court. The DOJ is now openly taking the strategy of trying to bypass every lower court in favor of shoving their case in front of the five republican justices as quickly as possible and hoping to get a decision flagrantly ignoring the law in favor of what the republican party wants as quickly as possible.
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Nov 27, 2018 16:24
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holy poo poo that's like all the collusion, right there, and mueller apparently has the documents to prove it
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Nov 27, 2018 16:26
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quote:Manafort’s first visit to the embassy took place a year after Assange sought asylum inside, two sources said.
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Nov 27, 2018 17:06
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evilweasel posted:The DOJ knows they've burned every bridge with every judge that might review this case, except the Supreme Court. The DOJ is now openly taking the strategy of trying to bypass every lower court in favor of shoving their case in front of the five republican justices as quickly as possible and hoping to get a decision flagrantly ignoring the law in favor of what the republican party wants as quickly as possible. Are there projections on just how bad of an impact including the questions could have in terms of responses to the Census (and thus, the allocation of the House)?
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Nov 27, 2018 18:11
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Nucleic Acids posted:Are there projections on just how bad of an impact including the questions could have in terms of responses to the Census (and thus, the allocation of the House)? I believe some of that was entered into evidence in the trial but I didn't follow it closely enough to know off the top of my head. Importantly, it does not just affect allocation of house seats between states; it affects the relative political strength of cities vs. rural areas in the state.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:16
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Whoa https://mobile.twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1067448517768171521 https://mobile.twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1067464748617351169
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Nov 27, 2018 18:19
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knox_harrington posted:Whoa is it even theoretically possible for Zuck to see jail time over this? edit: vvvv FB is too big and well-connected and full of useful data to be allowed to sink. senior leadership may get hosed, but I doubt FB will ever die.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:20
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Is there any chance that this Facebook bullshit ends in a world where Facebook doesn't exist anymore? I don't even care if Zuckerberg ends up penniless in a ditch somewhere--I would just like Facebook to end up like MySpace.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:21
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knox_harrington posted:Whoa These committee hearings sound wild and the Canadian MPs sound pissed. Does this all end with Facebook being banned in Canada?
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Nov 27, 2018 18:23
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Is there any chance that this Facebook bullshit ends in a world where Facebook doesn't exist anymore? I don't even care if Zuckerberg ends up penniless in a ditch somewhere--I would just like Facebook to end up like MySpace. Their business model seems to depend on selling peoples private information to ad buyers and the don't seem to care why or where, so it's quite possible, yes.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:27
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Chilichimp posted:Their business model seems to depend on selling peoples private information to ad buyers and the don't seem to care why or where, so it's quite possible, yes. If it were just to ad buyers, it'd still be bad, but a lot less bad. They're selling people's private information to anyone at all, including those that want to do harm to those people.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:31
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Is there any chance that this Facebook bullshit ends in a world where Facebook doesn't exist anymore? I don't even care if Zuckerberg ends up penniless in a ditch somewhere--I would just like Facebook to end up like MySpace. The primary hold Facebook has is basically the existing data and the links you already have. I don't use my Facebook account, basically never post on it...but I don't want to delete it because it's got data that's not anywhere else and if there was Facebook 2.0 from a new company I wouldn't exactly go friend all of the people I haven't spoken to since college but i might, someday, be vaguely interested in what they're up to. I'm not real sure how you replicate that. But once people start deleting their facebook accounts it could easily enter a death spiral because once all of those people deleted their accounts, I have no reason to keep mine anymore. It also could just stagnate and die off as nobody creates new facebook accounts and it turns into just sort of a memorial of the 2004-2016 period in everyone's lives who had a facebook account.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:31
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Is there any chance that this Facebook bullshit ends in a world where Facebook doesn't exist anymore? I don't even care if Zuckerberg ends up penniless in a ditch somewhere--I would just like Facebook to end up like MySpace. This grand committee that's sitting in London was talking about breaking up Facebook (/ whatsapp etc). Also about RICO which I don't understand but Ken Popehat gets upset about. The committee pointed out that the 23 of them represent 400 million people.
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Nov 27, 2018 18:31
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alternatively, facebook could become so politically toxic that governments basically outlaw their entire business model and nobody's sure what to do with it anymore
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Nov 27, 2018 18:31
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Nationalise that poo poo, IMO. No direct government control, of course, but bring it into public ownership. EDIT - although I suppose that's an absolutely impossible demand in the USA
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Barry Foster posted:Nationalise that poo poo, IMO. Yeah they got close to saying that, amazingly! Discussing turning it into a public utility. e: wow this Canadian dude is loving fired up E2 why isn't our actual Parliament like this? These people seem actually competent knox_harrington fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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