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No Safe Word posted:Yeah licensing is stupid and onerous when it's for things like cosmetology but when it literally means the difference between life or death for some professions, it's a Good Thing as long as it's done properly. Becoming a Professional Engineer that can actually sign off on things is a long process (and the process is imperfect in some ways), but I wouldn't say just eliminate it. Same thing with doctors/surgeons/pharmacists. Even commercial driver's licenses are a good idea as long as they're done correctly. Dont you really only need a PE license only if you do government (contracting) work? I think I read that somewhere
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Is it possible to pass the bar without going to law school Former President of the United States Abraham Lincoln would tell you that yes, it is indeed possible.
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Grapplejack posted:Here's a fun trivia bit: the organization that handles funeral service examinations is called The Conference. I don't understand why they picked a name for their group that is so loving ominous, but Should have named themselves the Death Panel
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The Glumslinger posted:The man made some tweets https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/...ingawful.com%2F
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https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1067497459881033729 This is a good idea, and CNN should extend it to its own pundits as well.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dont you really only need a PE license only if you do government (contracting) work? I think I read that somewhere If you're building something that requires permits - say, a building, other structure, etc - you're going to need a PE to put their stamp on the structural plans, probably another one for the HVAC, that kind of thing. Anything that's going to be subject to government oversight, which in practice means just about anything, will need some kind of PE's signoff at some point. That said, there are lots of jobs for mechanical/civil/electrical engineers that don't involve a PE stamp, especially in private industry.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1067497459881033729 Now all we need to do is get either MSNBC or CNN to give Shucks the MST3K treatment as she stands at the podium.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Dont you really only need a PE license only if you do government (contracting) work? I think I read that somewhere Highly regulated industries like transport, residences or heavy industry/energy have very stringent requirements on stamped designs, it is why generally an O&G facility does not explode and wipe out a town or why skyscrapers do not collapse very regularly
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Wouldn’t targeting only GM for this kind of stuff be highly illegal?
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Wilhelm posted:Highly regulated industries like transport, residences or heavy industry/energy have very stringent requirements on stamped designs, it is why generally an O&G facility does not explode and wipe out a town or why skyscrapers do not collapse very regularly Truck driving licensing is legitimate as far as I'm aware, the big problem with truck driving is they don't want to pay drivers enough given how unappealing an occupation it is.
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Licensing needs to exist, but we need to make the education necessary to get licenses affordable and doable for all people. I’m not going want to live in a world where some rear end in a top hat can wake up tomorrow morning and decided to be a dentist, then fabricate their history performing oral surgery. That’s some libertarian-style “eggs and omlettes” poo poo where human lives are expendable in the pursuit of perfect competition.  This poo poo happens in Georgia already and we put a stop to it for a loving reason. quote:David Marsh told Channel 2 Action News he needed two teeth pulled and a deep cleaning when he went to County Dental Providers when the office was in Dallas. A few days after Szewczyk did the procedures, Marsh said the pain and swelling became unbearable. In the words of a wise person: “miss me with that poo poo”.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Wouldn’t targeting only GM for this kind of stuff be highly illegal? Illegal? Probs not in its current form hosed up? Absolutely. That downy sad line = americans losing their jobs, you know, the people the POTUS says he cares about.
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Speaking of licenses, everyone should have an FFL03. Because this machine really did kill fascists.
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sexpig by night posted:the bar remains exactly as classist and restrictive as it was when it first started and the bar as an organization constantly fails in its job as an oversight body. Any exam that can be passed by taking a review class for 8 weeks arguably isn’t that good of a skills assessment but is hardly a real barrier to entry. The point is to measure basic competence. Any “better” way of weeding out candidates would be a much more time intensive proposition which probably would hit underprivileged groups even harder.l yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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I don't really think Facebook has gotten either more or less Chuddy but it's hard to say. I've hidden entire sources one by one when I see some MAGA crap pop up, and eventually unfollowed people when it got to the point that they literally never posted original content at all, so there's no way of knowing, really. I do know that one of those people has begun complaining that Facebook censors conservative content, which is laughable considering how much I still have to put up with. This may become a self-fulfilling prophecy that causes them all to migrate to some other platform, I guess, even though Facebook is basically ground zero for MAGA crap ruining a website. Fritz Coldcockin posted:Now all we need to do is get either MSNBC or CNN to give Shucks the MST3K treatment as she stands at the podium. Biff, Hardcastle! Slab, Squatthrust! John, Bolton!
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Kimsemus posted:In the latter part of the 19th century when immigration was more open in the US, there was no secret as to the way they began legal licensing: This is just flat wrong, Bar exams in the US date back to the mid 18th century and predate the formation of the United States or Jewish immigration. Your comment on not being allowed to work during law school is also flat wrong, full-time students have a restriction of 20 hours, there is no restriction in any state on working while a part time student, of which there are many many programs. edit: also technically three years of law school isn't mandated by the ABA either, four states allow you to take the bar and be certified with just an apprenticeship.
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TheScott2K posted:If you're building something that requires permits - say, a building, other structure, etc - you're going to need a PE to put their stamp on the structural plans, probably another one for the HVAC, that kind of thing. Anything that's going to be subject to government oversight, which in practice means just about anything, will need some kind of PE's signoff at some point. That said, there are lots of jobs for mechanical/civil/electrical engineers that don't involve a PE stamp, especially in private industry. I think thats what I was thinking of, private industry exception (lol) I'm a chemist, what is licensing
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Kimsemus posted:Illegal? Probs not in its current form bills of attainder are illegal
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I have mixed feelings about this kind of retaliation when it's done in response to layoff announcements. I bet it plays well with a lot of voters too.
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Lightning Knight posted:Democratic voters have made it clear that they're perfectly willing to elect poo poo tier Democrats like Donnelly in primaries. a primary election doesn't guarantee your candidate, or the best candidate, will win. it does mean that worrying about republicans who "take advantage of the “blue no matter who” idiots and run as Democrats" either lose their primary, or the candidate you prefer couldn't even win a democratic primary against a republican so he wasn't winning the general. in neither case is the problem the people who understand republicans are a threat to our country and vote for the only credible alternative.
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evilweasel posted:a primary election doesn't guarantee your candidate, or the best candidate, will win. it does mean that worrying about republicans who "take advantage of the “blue no matter who” idiots and run as Democrats" either lose their primary, or the candidate you prefer couldn't even win a democratic primary against a republican so he wasn't winning the general. in neither case is the problem the people who understand republicans are a threat to our country and vote for the only credible alternative. I feel like this sentence is doing a lot of work here and should concern you more than it does.
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anyone who supports manchin is a nazi supporter Li Zhou Do you think the Senate needs to respond to the use of tear gas on children at the border? Joe Manchin They shouldn’t be bringing their children to the border when they know they can’t get in.
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Weeeeeeeelp
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half this thread is complicit for nazi-tier crimes. retire. ban yourselves. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheScott2K posted:Anti-licensing lolbertarians love talking about hair braiding and cosmetology but hate talking about Civil Engineering, medicine, and building/contracting. I don't think you're going to find anyone who disagrees that the hair braiding thing is bullshit but they never stop there. It moves on to "and it's too hard to become a lawyer!" and just becomes self-parody. See also: the collected works of Shoshanna Weissman. Eh, I don't think cosmetology licensing is bullshit. There's a potential to spread parasites or other maladies, so government and society do have an interest in making sure that the people doing business in those fields know how to not spread contagion. Now maybe professions like decorators on the other hand, that is something that shouldn't require a license.
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anyone who defended manchin itt is a pro-rape pro-nazi piece of poo poo
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anime was right posted:anyone who supports manchin is a nazi supporter Don't worry dawg. DiFi is writing a letter.
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Jarmak posted:This is just flat wrong, Bar exams in the US date back to the mid 18th century and predate the formation of the United States or Jewish immigration. Your comment on not being allowed to work during law school is also flat wrong, full-time students have a restriction of 20 hours, there is no restriction in any state on working while a part time student, of which there are many many programs. It’s actually the law schools that are the real problem/barrier to entry.
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Didn't this already not happen once recently? Maybe this one will be real.
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Brony Car posted:I have mixed feelings about this kind of retaliation when it's done in response to layoff announcements. I bet it plays well with a lot of voters too. It's not going to save my job, so w/e
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ReidRansom posted:Eh, I don't think cosmetology licensing is bullshit. There's a potential to spread parasites or other maladies, so government and society do have an interest in making sure that the people doing business in those fields know how to not spread contagion. Now maybe professions like decorators on the other hand, that is something that shouldn't require a license. on the other hand you have unlicensed interior decorators like the goon who cut load bearing beams in his house so he could install a bathtub
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evilweasel posted:becoming a lawyer is not all that hard you don't say (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Kimsemus posted:Other issue post: Ask me about what's required to be a tattoo artist in Denver, Colorado
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yronic heroism posted:It’s actually the law schools that are the real problem/barrier to entry. IMO apprenticeship should be legal in every state for lawyers.
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Lightning Knight posted:I feel like this sentence is doing a lot of work here and should concern you more than it does. why? we have assumed for the sake of argument a rebranded republican decided to run in a democratic primary. there are only two things that happen: he wins, or he loses. obviously, i only discuss the situation where he wins because in the situation where he loses Kobayashi is already wrong so why belabor the point. like yes, if i assume for the sake of argument a bad thing happened, then a bad thing happened, but why would it concern me? i assumed it would happen only for the sake of argument, not because i think it would happen.
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i am harry posted:Ask me about what's required to be a tattoo artist in Denver, Colorado More or less onerous than opening a dispensary?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you don't say it was like falling out of bed for me or more accurately, staying in bed, i wasn't great at the whole class attendance thing
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i am harry posted:Ask me about what's required to be a tattoo artist in Denver, Colorado a tattoo artist seems like they should have some health and safety regulations, and some sort of process to make sure you know what those are, given that you're poking people with needles
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evilweasel posted:why? we have assumed for the sake of argument a rebranded republican decided to run in a democratic primary. there are only two things that happen: he wins, or he loses. obviously, i only discuss the situation where he wins because in the situation where he loses Kobayashi is already wrong so why belabor the point. Well let's not play coy, the Democratic Party is already seeing Republicans flipped to Democrat running and winning primaries and that's not a good thing because it pushes the party right. Most prominently there was that Florida guy in 2016, I think he lost to Rubio?
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