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SKULL.GIF posted:I really hope Orbonne Monastery is going to be just bugfuck insane and not disappointing like Omegascape was But but... the ancient eggrolls!
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I'm doing the HW relic grind, for some reason. No individual step seems too crazy..
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Cabbit posted:I'm doing the HW relic grind, for some reason. No individual step seems too crazy.. Umbrite step was a real pain in the rear end for the longest time, but it's fairly easy now, if time consuming. HW Relic's version of the light grind is probably the most painful, now.
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I got this on a cyber monday sale since I have some friends who play too, and I was wondering how important the server is. I understand we can do instanced content in the same cluster, but how much outdoor group content is there? Especially if we're all still on our first Jobs.
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 I love that Convert's animation makes you into a full-on eye-clutching chuunibyou.
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Celebrity Ghost posted:I got this on a cyber monday sale since I have some friends who play too, and I was wondering how important the server is. I understand we can do instanced content in the same cluster, but how much outdoor group content is there? Especially if we're all still on our first Jobs. Basically the big thing you want to consider as far as outdoor content are Hunts, Maps and possibly Blue Mage. The last is still not out yet so it's hard to say but Hunts and Maps are group content locked to the same server which can be used to unlock items/glams/etc. It isn't critical by any means but it is something fun to do with friends.
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Celebrity Ghost posted:I got this on a cyber monday sale since I have some friends who play too, and I was wondering how important the server is. I understand we can do instanced content in the same cluster, but how much outdoor group content is there? Especially if we're all still on our first Jobs. The expansion in 4-5 months will let you visit other servers on the same data center too. It won't be too long before your server determines nothing but your housing market
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Thanks for the quick answers! The housing situation was precisely why I was debating this, and since I can safely see us all still playing in a few months, there doesn't seem to be much immediate drawback to picking a small one.
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CYBEReris posted:Like with a lot of trade occupations in meatspace, the cost doesn't just represent the raw materials and the labor, but also the investment that the crafter put into mastering the trade - or in this case, leveling, gearing, etc. their DoH job. Sounds good on paper and should be the case, but usually intermediate mats are on par or less than their individual components. I’m pulling numbers out of my rear end, but let’s use walnut lumber: Walnut lumber sells for 800 on the MB It needs 3 walnut logs which the cheapest is a stack of 99 for 300, but there’s a smaller stack for 350. Also don’t forget the catalyst which is 2 or 3 wind shards that have been averaging 50 Gil a pop on the MB. This also doesn’t account for stuff like having to repair your gear or the fact that you can turn spirit bonded gear into materia or that intermediate mats (like labor or ingots) are in drop tables. Finished good = Raw Materials + Labor + “value” 800 = 1200 + (-400) Math checks out.  I’ve seen intermediate mats actual hold the model of mats + labor for crafts that are either leve turnins (hello, Linen Shirts), housing items, or threading the needle and being the only player on the MB and cashing in on the folks trying to win the high end gear market. That last one was interesting for 4.4 patch week because I managed to corner the MB for a few days on tama hagane and oroshigane ingots, and wound up being able to sell 4.0 intermediate mats for 20-30k each because they were required for chigusa ingots. It was easy as hell to sell 250k worth of 4.0 mats and stay out of the undercutting market of 4.4 mats or the 380 HQ gear market. This is all going to be destroyed by cross world MB. 
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Phone posted:This is all going to be destroyed by cross world MB. Nah like 80% of the Crafter hustle on the MB is predicated on people being loving lazy. And teleporting world to world to buy materials is a lot of work to save a 100k gil or some poo poo.
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If people won't bother teleporting to the ixal to buy their walnut lumber, I don't see them doing their shopping on multiple worlds.
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Bolow posted:Nah like 80% of the Crafter hustle on the MB is predicated on people being loving lazy. And teleporting world to world to buy materials is a lot of work to save a 100k gil or some poo poo. Some outrageous nerd is going to develop a site that tracks the value of MB items by server once 5.0 hits. It won't be updated live because it can't be (unless SQEX makes it themselves...) but it'll be updated with alarming frequency. AngusPodgorny posted:If people won't bother teleporting to the ixal to buy their walnut lumber, I don't see them doing their shopping on multiple worlds. I've run into a very large number of people who don't even realize that beast tribes sell mats. It isn't just laziness, most market participants are entirely ignorant of how the market and supply chains work. So, also kind of like the real world
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Bolow posted:Nah like 80% of the Crafter hustle on the MB is predicated on people being loving lazy. And teleporting world to world to buy materials is a lot of work to save a 100k gil or some poo poo. People will pay for things that they could get cheaper from a vendor because the vendor is a beast tribe vendor and it's a teleport and a walk away vs just getting off the MB right here and now. The convenience aspect of the MB is a big part of it too. e: in fact, every item tool tip will tell you if you can buy it cheaper from a vendor.
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People sometimes sell stuff on the MB for less than they would have gotten from just trashing it at a vendor. Economics are magical.
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Leofish posted:People will pay for things that they could get cheaper from a vendor because the vendor is a beast tribe vendor and it's a teleport and a walk away vs just getting off the MB right here and now. The convenience aspect of the MB is a big part of it too. Ask me about selling those stupid flowers and the bouquet you buy in Gridania for a 8000% markup to idiots
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Thundarr posted:Some outrageous nerd is going to develop a site that tracks the value of MB items by server once 5.0 hits. It won't be updated live because it can't be (unless SQEX makes it themselves...) but it'll be updated with alarming frequency. This already exists; they’re using the phone app API. It also attaches retainer names to player names. 
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Bolow posted:Ask me about selling those stupid flowers and the bouquet you buy in Gridania for a 8000% markup to idiots Twelve bless the "show recently added items" check box.
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Ask me about not having to care about making or spending a few hundred thousand here and there because I'm a self-made bootstraps catgirl, not a plebeian proletariat poor commoner foodstamps lala.
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the lalafell are a proud people who just need some assistance because YoshiP keeps adding things that eat us to this hell of a game.
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As a misanthopic miser, it is equally important that all of my gil stay in my hoard, and also that none of it goes to market board people. I'll teleport to Little Ala Mhigo and ride out to the amal'jaa for a single steel ingot if I have to. I figure a lot of the market board purchases are also non-crafters who are told 'bring me all the raw materials and I'll make you gear." It's understandable that they don't know what crafting supplies are available where.
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Thundarr posted:Some outrageous nerd is going to develop a site that tracks the value of MB items by server once 5.0 hits. It won't be updated live because it can't be (unless SQEX makes it themselves...) but it'll be updated with alarming frequency. Too late and it is updated live https://www.ffxivmb.com Edit: that might a link to the wrong one, I'm on my phone, but there is one that uses a bunch of characters and the companion app for live updates. It uses this API https://xivapi.com/docs/Market Jose Valasquez fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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Well what do you know, I didn't think they'd open up the entire MB as an API but I keep forgetting the phone app exists.
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They probably didn’t mean to.
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I've managed to clear the hardest content in the game, namely conquering the Balmung housing market and getting a silly hat for winter.       
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Ibblebibble posted:
She casts Flare once then has to lie down for the rest of the day.
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Ibblebibble posted:
"I draw upon the infinite power of the void" and "I channel the seething rage buried deep within my soul to grant me strength" are tied for the most chuuni job in the game.
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Ibblebibble posted:
Yeah, I'm gonna need the name of those boots, thanks.
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Rainuwastaken posted:Yeah, I'm gonna need the name of those boots, thanks. I think those are dyeable AF2 boots for black mage.
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Cabbit posted:I think those are dyeable AF2 boots for black mage. Yep! Horde rod, Vanya hat, Shire coat, Eikonic gloves, Makai shorts, AF2 boots.
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Cheap Trick posted:She casts Flare once then has to lie down for the rest of the day. *shakes head*
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Renegret posted:*shakes head* blm.gif: 
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Renegret posted:I won't be satisfied until I get a skill that lets me black mage so hard I implode my body and soul, like in the job quests. late, but give BLM explosion mechanics like Bright Wizard in Warhammer Online no wait healers don't leave hear me out-
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Does anybody have a controller layout that they wouldn't mind sharing for WAR? I just resubbed to this game wanting to try controller since I'm couch gaming now, but I'm struggling to come up with a layout that feels natural.
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Sleng Teng posted:Does anybody have a controller layout that they wouldn't mind sharing for WAR? I just resubbed to this game wanting to try controller since I'm couch gaming now, but I'm struggling to come up with a layout that feels natural. I'll try and take a screenshot later tonight. How do you feel about double clicking the triggers?
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Vargatron posted:I'll try and take a screenshot later tonight. How do you feel about double clicking the triggers? That's for the expanded cross bar right? That + hold feels the best to me so far so probably not an issue. Thanks a bunch!
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Any skills on PLD I can just rip from my skill bars? With unlocking all role actions, there's just way too many buttons and they all won't fit in 3 skill bars. It's annoying because skills like Tempered Will and Cover are so situational I don't expect to use them a ton, but are still too good to rip off my bar entirely. I'm only level 53 and I'm already struggling with hotbar space. From what I can tell, shield bash is the only truly useless skill. The whole thing is souring me on tanking for the rest of this expansion, to be honest.
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Nope. Paladin has the most buttons because it's the worst designed.
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I'm having the same problem with DRK. It feels like I have way too much for 3 bars, and hotkey/binding everything is basically not gonna happen. I was thinking I could maybe move Grit off a hotkey since for awhile it was "put on and forget" but it seems like ideal tanking has you toggling it off when you have some comfort so you can work in blood weapon. I'm curious to see what will get cut with SB2. Doing the PVP thing and making single button combos could do a lot to help pretty much across the board. Also, I'm around 54 but have played with some the skills up to 60 with PotD - am I correct to understand the basics of DRK is basically Darkside always on, Grit based on comfort, Soul Eater is the combo you want to be doing, Power Slash is just for aggro? Use DA to burn mana with combo finishers and some other abilities as your mana permits?
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Renegret posted:Any skills on PLD I can just rip from my skill bars? With unlocking all role actions, there's just way too many buttons and they all won't fit in 3 skill bars. Shield Bash lets you interrupt problematic dungeon mobs (assuming there's no WHM) with huge AOEs like the sandworms in the Burn, letting you and the melee keep uptime higher. It's also essential in higher PotD/HoH floors. Saint Freak posted:Nope. Paladin has the most buttons because it's the worst designed. Nah
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