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Shibawanko posted:Chrono Trigger is good but Terranigma is the best game on the snes. because they feel like they discovered something. But I've played all the those games twice and I'm baffled at how boring they are. The only good game in the series is Act Raiser. CT was like the best jrpg humanly possible for its generation. People only criticize it because it was popular
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unpopular opinion: Final Fantasy Mystic Quest was fun and good
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temple posted:Terranigma and the soul series are overrated. They are at best Zelda clones. Terranigma is probably the worst because its way too long, mostly grinding, and one weapon/move set has to last the entire game. People only like it Soul Series keeps making me double take because I keep thinking Demon's Souls/Dark Souls. Or Soul Caliber.
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temple posted:Terranigma and the soul series are overrated. They are at best Zelda clones. Terranigma is probably the worst because its way too long, mostly grinding, and one weapon/move set has to last the entire game. People only like it sorry but Illusion of Gaia rules
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!Klams posted:Just picked up Witcher 3 because everyone's always banging on about how great it is, and, yeah, it's p. good, but Geralt is absolutely unacceptable levels of Mary Sue. EVERY SINGLE conversation is hyper cringeworthy because of him, and it's so bad its definitely never going to be ok. I don't really care about that sort of thing, either, but it's just so horribly OTT I can't really understand how that isn't all anyone ever talks about. Yeah, Geralt was pretty much the reason I couldn't get more than halfway into the Witcher. What's worse is that he's constantly surrounded by buffoons and muck-scraping peasants whose entire existence is centered around showing you how cool and smart Geralt is. He needed a good Trevelyan, a rival who is as good as him, if not better, to really challenge that character and make him look foolish from time to time. Instead you're just playing as a cat-eyed demigod who really likes card games
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Rutibex posted:sorry but Illusion of Gaia rules
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Squashing Machine posted:Yeah, Geralt was pretty much the reason I couldn't get more than halfway into the Witcher. What's worse is that he's constantly surrounded by buffoons and muck-scraping peasants whose entire existence is centered around showing you how cool and smart Geralt is. He needed a good Trevelyan, a rival who is as good as him, if not better, to really challenge that character and make him look foolish from time to time. Instead you're just playing as a cat-eyed demigod who really likes card games Man that's just the complete opposite of my take on Geralt. To me his character works specifically because the game world doesn't revolve around him being a gruff badass. His friends are constantly taking the piss out of him for being a self serious dork. And there are plenty of plot points that show it's all just an act from him anyway and deep down he's a softy. Also the entire plot of Witcher 2 is him getting outmaneuvered by a rogue witcher.
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Dec 5, 2018 16:25
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is pepsi ok posted:And there are plenty of plot points that show it's all just an act from him anyway and deep down he's a softy. Having the same complaint about TW3 I felt like this actually somehow made him more of a Mary Sue. Like, “Well, he may be a complete stone cold badass sexman but also he’s got a heart of pure gold.
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I liked the new doom a whole lot but the serious sam games still play more like doom.
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Dec 5, 2018 16:47
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Geralt is a pretty massive sperg at times so I'm surprised more goons can't get into him. I think his even and deadpan delivery works pretty well most of the time.
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Dec 5, 2018 17:12
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Sardonik posted:Geralt is a pretty massive sperg at times so I'm surprised more goons can't get into him. I think his even and deadpan delivery works pretty well most of the time. his voice acting is terrible and sounds like xavier renegade angel edit: did i make this up or does being a witcher give off pheromones that make women want to gently caress you because that's hilariously bad
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temple posted:Terranigma and the soul series are overrated. They are at best Zelda clones. Is this a troll
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pretty sure everyone in the game world is aware of what a goober Geralt is
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witchers are immune to disease, infertile, and physically a bit larger which I assume applies to the dong as well. This makes them the perfect gigolos
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Geralt's a goober yall. I try not to do this but like yall have a busted perception of what's supposed to be going on in W3 if you think it's a self serious mary sue lmao
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Whorelord posted:his voice acting is terrible and sounds like xavier renegade angel Thank you, I really dislike Geralt too. Just a plain 2d caricature of a video game hero, pretending to be super cool Whoops I signed my post
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Snow Cone Capone posted:unpopular opinion: Final Fantasy Mystic Quest was fun and good  It was my first traditional JRPG and just simple and easy enough that I could play it. As sad as it might sound MQ, 12 and 15 are the only games in the series I've genuinely enjoyed. Good music as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZOQ8sLO-vU
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basic hitler posted:Geralt's a goober yall. I try not to do this but like yall have a busted perception of what's supposed to be going on in W3 if you think it's a self serious mary sue lmao he's a bad character
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The Witcher basically gives Geralt the same basic personality hook as Curb Your Enthusiasm. Geralt sees everyone as unreasonable and is repeatedly frustrated when he is swept up in the bullshit of normies. Geralt is a buff fantasy Larry David.
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basic hitler posted:Geralt's a goober yall. I try not to do this but like yall have a busted perception of what's supposed to be going on in W3 if you think it's a self serious mary sue lmao gamers as a whole are really loving bad at determining intent from aesthetics i once ran into a dude who got red-faced huffing mad that i pointed out that the protagonist of No More Heroes, a guy that wears lovely anime t-shirts and unironically says "moe~~~" and rides a big loving moped everywhere to do low-paid janitorial work is actually a huge dweeb and everyone else in the game clearly knows it, this poor dude was convinced he was a total rockstar badass because he wears a red coat and sunglasses
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Cf: Scott pilgrim
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food court bailiff posted:gamers as a whole are really loving bad at determining intent from aesthetics dreadmojo posted:Cf: Scott pilgrim Thing can get extra tricky with protagonists that are specifically meant to be dorky audience inserts because being a protagonist they have to get up to entertaining things and be presented in a way people will like, so they can come off basically as nerd fantasies; having all the same dorky hobbies and interests but also getting in spectacular anime swordfights and having cool wrestling moves and such. And to be fair, given the people creating these things are also huge nerds and know it. That and mocking people for being stuck in extended adolescence and not moving out into suburban homes with salaried jobs doesn't go over so well these days given it turns out that's not actually by choice and probably never was.
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I actually just beat the witcher 3 last night for the first time since getting it at launch and at the start of the last mission Yennefer, the love of Geralt's life, dunks on him for being a dweeb in front of a bunch of other sorceresses. I think for a video game the witcher does a pretty good job of depicting character relationships that resemble actual human relationships but I can't really comment on the overall plot because this was a single playthrough spaced out over 3-4 years and I barely had any idea what was going on
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dreadmojo posted:Cf: Scott pilgrim The game was really good though?
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romanowski posted:I actually just beat the witcher 3 last night for the first time since getting it at launch and at the start of the last mission Yennefer, the love of Geralt's life, dunks on him for being a dweeb in front of a bunch of other sorceresses. I think for a video game the witcher does a pretty good job of depicting character relationships that resemble actual human relationships but I can't really comment on the overall plot because this was a single playthrough spaced out over 3-4 years and I barely had any idea what was going on my dude the dlcs add like 50 more hours of content you're not really done at all
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basic hitler posted:my dude the dlcs add like 50 more hours of content you're not really done at all but my ending said that Geralt and Yennefer retired to a quiet life of leisure and lived happily ever after??
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DANG IT MY LAST DAY BEFORE WITCHER RETIREMENT
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temple posted:Terranigma and the soul series are overrated. They are at best Zelda clones. Terranigma is probably the worst because its way too long, mostly grinding, and one weapon/move set has to last the entire game. People only like it There's one point where you have to grind a bit, before Bloody Mary, otherwise it's not needed at all. I like it because, like in IoG, you get to explore some real world places and it just has really good presentation and story where nearly every other RPG is full of stupid dragon cliches and stuff. The moveset was good and I liked how you really got to use all 4 moves against different enemies. It definitely has a bunch of flaws and it's weird hybrid game with an out of place level system but then again it has undead mongolian villages, evil russian eugenicists, a cool penguin village and you get to visit the antarctic dry valleys to meet your dead former self from another age. Of all the games I played as a little kid that one stands out the most in my memory. Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Geralt is a strong beautiful pasty white man who don't need no sorceress, and the canon w3 ending is geralt and ciri witchering on the road together
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Another in the “people hated it but I liked it” series is Mafia III. I never played the earlier ones but I thought the setting and whatever would be fun. I was right! Cool characters, nice story-telling gimmick (it’s a documentary about the events of the game, made thirty years later), and decent GTA clone action with a great Vietnam-era soundtrack. People HATED this game when it came out for the terrible bugs, and the grind. Well, if you buy it now the bugs are gone, and I don’t know if they patched out the grind or I’m just immune but it over pretty quick. Like most open world games there’s a lot to do, but if you just ignore it you can breeze through the story missions pretty quickly. The grind involves breaking apart the operation of each city-segment’s boss before you can take that boss down. So you have to kill his enforcers, stop his money-making, etc. usually there’s one or two mini story missions and a whole bunch of stuff on the map. If you did all of that you’d lose your mind. In practice, you can do the mini story mission and then take down the boss, if you’re careful to destroy the property and Jill the enforcers while you go. The game didn’t overstay its welcome and had decent gameplay all the way through. A solid bargain purchase.
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poisonpill posted:Another in the “people hated it but I liked it” series is Mafia III. I never played the earlier ones but I thought the setting and whatever would be fun. I was right! Cool characters, nice story-telling gimmick (it’s a documentary about the events of the game, made thirty years later), and decent GTA clone action with a great Vietnam-era soundtrack. I got it from PS plus and I really enjoyed it
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Pretty sure the reason so many people hated it was because they had to be a black dude. God drat SJWs ruining all my games. But really, Mafia 3 is an excellent sandbox game and way better than the previous two. Even the DLC was cool and added a bunch of stuff to the main game when you finished them. In one you get to run a weed farm and it's pretty much Drug Wars.
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Rutibex posted:sorry but Illusion of Gaia rules except the part where you have to fight the vampires in mu
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The White Dragon posted:except the part where you have to fight the vampires in mu That part isn't even hard if you just charge the dark friar shot and stay out of the way a bit.
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is pepsi ok posted:Man that's just the complete opposite of my take on Geralt. To me his character works specifically because the game world doesn't revolve around him being a gruff badass. His friends are constantly taking the piss out of him for being a self serious dork. And there are plenty of plot points that show it's all just an act from him anyway and deep down he's a softy. In TW3 it almost explicitly does though, practically every female character wants to bang you because you're a gruff badass, he's successful at basically everything that he attempts, and the moments where he's not a gruff badass succeeding at everything are usually when he decides to take a break from doing that (e.g. dressing up like a sorceress and calling people on the wizard phone). The fact of the matter is that Geralt satisfies many of the characteristics of a Mary Sue: he's overly talented and very easily able to learn new talents (he's The Witcherest Witcher), the story nearly always sides with him and portrays people who disagree with him as idiots, bigots, evil, or all 3, and despite so often saying that Ciri is mega-powerful she sure does need Geralt to save her and determine her fate through his actions, resulting in her having almost no agency
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geralt is just a pawn who is good at killing monsters and lucking into important company and he's basically not once done anything without being strung along by a sorceress or someone else and nobody really needs him
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basic hitler posted:geralt is just a pawn who is good at killing monsters and lucking into important company and he's basically not once done anything without being strung along by a sorceress or someone else and nobody really needs him Ciri's fate is literally determined by how Geralt interacts with her. She explicitly needs him, and so do the countless others that he saves by being a gruff badass
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Well it is a video game, dude.
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*video game reacts to how you play* Stupid trash for babies! *watches LPs of Pong on YouTube instead*
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poisonpill posted:Well it is a video game, dude. Yes? Tons of video games have Mary Sue characters. Bioware games are full of them That doesn't make the games bad
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