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It’s unnecessary. Assuming the security agencies are acting in good faith, there will already be conduct other than a Whatsapp conversation prompting the investigation. Tell ASIO to stop looking at their phones and do some actual bloody work.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 02:03 |
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I am pretty sure there are dumb and poo poo reasons but reasons nonetheless why they did this below the surface of 'labors gonna keep u safe Australian public unlike that MORRISON JERK' and we will just never know because there's too many possibilities and influence from ASIO / police / whomever in briefings that will never make the light of day.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 02:10 |
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Is there any chance of this getting repealed? I'm guessing not.
AbortRetryFail fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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Course not
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 02:37 |
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AbortRetryFail posted:Is there any chance of this getting repealed? I'm guessing not.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 02:44 |
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JBP posted:What's the bar to clear to use the powers? Like what on earth could spying on unions and opposition politicians yield in a national security sense? The docks example is a good one, but you're not going to be able to arrest people for planning a strike under natsec, you'd have to take them under industrial law. Most of it was a tongue in cheek answer mate.
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AbortRetryFail posted:I am pretty sure there are dumb and poo poo reasons but reasons nonetheless why they did this below the surface of 'labors gonna keep u safe Australian public unlike that MORRISON JERK' and we will just never know because there's too many possibilities and influence from ASIO / police / whomever in briefings that will never make the light of day. Maybe Bill is worried that interfering with a US spying effort will result in another democratically elected labor government being overthrown in a CIA coup. I don't believe for a second there is a reasonable asio/police justification for why it would have to be passed before Christmas. Does anyone know whether they made any changes to stop these problems: quote:But here's the thing with this bill - it isn't limited to terrorism or major crime. Any crime with a federal implication that is subject to two or more years in jail falls under the bill's scope. Labor has to make a stand against Dutton and Porter controlling the national security narrative. We've already reached unprecedented erosion of civil rights territory with no successful terror plot to justify the authoritarian hardon and it won't stop when they are out of power. Dutton is still going to go to the media and say "as a national security expert I know better than anyone that we need new national security amendment X and labor refusing to consider it just proves how much more at risk we are now that they are in power".
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 02:51 |
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Knobb Manwich posted:Most of it was a tongue in cheek answer mate. Most of them are but I want to know the bar to clear.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 03:09 |
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Trapezium Dave posted:If they actually managed to balls up the implementation of the law to the point where a major tech company like Apple or Netflix pulls out of Australia altogether, maybe. Will be all worth it if it somehow makes Bitcoin illegal.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 03:16 |
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If Shorten and the ALP think that a Coalition PR campaign over loving Christmas and holidays is going to turn the electorate against them, they are just as stupid as the CPG dopes who are telling him they're clever. If the Coalition try anything this summer, it will just remind the electorate why they hate them.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 03:39 |
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AbortRetryFail posted:Is there any chance of this getting repealed? I'm guessing not. The Coalition has promised to consider any of the amendments it wants to consider.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 03:39 |
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ewe2 posted:If Shorten and the ALP think that a Coalition PR campaign over loving Christmas and holidays is going to turn the electorate against them, they are just as stupid as the CPG dopes who are telling him they're clever. And they're going to go ahead with whatever they were threatening to do anyway, because bipartisanship is dead and they are desperate to find a way to steal the election.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 03:53 |
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Don Dongington posted:And they're going to go ahead with whatever they were threatening to do anyway, because bipartisanship is dead and they are desperate to find a way to steal the election. Yep, that's a certainty. Listening to the Partyroom Podcast and its hilarious how CPG journalists can discuss the politics of the religious rights bill without once asking the question why it exists and why does the electorate need it foisted upon them (which goes for everything else this last week). Nevertheless I'm expecting one or two more Libs to hit the crossbenches by March, because by February they'll know there's no way to win by staying.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:07 |
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Holy moley you loving idiots are lucky that I’ve been probated since this time yesterday Watching this entire thread melt down with their panties in a twist over Shorten outplaying the liberals yet again is testament to three things: 1. why so many of you mongoloids are devout greens supporters (despite all of the well documented and ongoing sexual abuse) 2. Why the greens will always be on 10% 3. Why the fabled “goon party” that’s jokingly bandied around in here could never ever happen This is politics on a federal level you imbeciles. PM Zingers hasn’t spent the last half decade chipping away at the liberal party to let a single piece of easily repealed bad legislation trip him up at the post Here’s a couple of potential headlines over the next 8 weeks until the end of the Christmas break: “Shorten and Labor refuse to pass national anti-terrorist laws” “Labor passes anti-terrorist laws despite Morrison’s games” Spoiler alert: the end game is a ridiculous majority for a stable labor government, not to “stick up for what’s right” on reffos and tech security (two issues that are massively important to greens voters and also completely irrelevant to most of the electorate... hence the perpetual 10%) The blindingly obvious goal of shorten and the ALP is to form government after literally years of playing politics (in politics) and THEEEEEEEEN show your hand and pass the legislation you actually want to pass Jesus Christ you guys are dumb. I wish we could all get a poker game going because sheeeeeeeesh it would be some easy money. Here’s the headlines about yesterday from Murdoch of all places. What do you think they would have been otherwise? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:42 |
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:47 |
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I for one feel suitably chastised by the very smart poster that no-one knows
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:47 |
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monkeu posted:Holy moley you loving idiots are lucky that I’ve been probated since this time yesterday i would feel even luckier if you got probated again and for a longer period
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:50 |
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I did actually agree with this bit:monkeu posted:Holy moley you loving idiots are lucky that Ive been probated since this time yesterday e: goddammit jonah
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:51 |
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monkeu posted:Holy moley you loving idiots are lucky that I’ve been probated since this time yesterday
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:54 |
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monkeu posted:Holy moley you loving idiots are lucky that Ive been probated since this time yesterday V-van Badham?!
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:55 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1yUsdhlHaQ the internet remembers
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 04:58 |
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loving the tech industry to own the libs
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:05 |
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https://twitter.com/asu_nsw_act/status/1070864010654900227
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:12 |
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What the gently caress
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:17 |
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https://twitter.com/Dura_Ace/status/1070892605641187328 https://twitter.com/asu_nsw_act/status/1070896350588362752 I would blow Dane Cook fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Dec 7, 2018 |
# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:22 |
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monkeu posted:why so many of you mongoloids are devout greens supporters (despite all of the well documented and ongoing sexual abuse) Excuse me sir I'll have you know I'm a devout supporter of the Online Direct Democracy Party
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:25 |
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Cpt Soban posted:Excuse me sir I'll have you know I'm a devout supporter of the Online Direct Democracy Party sexual assault via the blockchain?
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:26 |
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GoldStandardConure posted:sexual assault via the blockchain? Relying on reddit users to vote on important Government legislation
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:29 |
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When I worked in retail they brought people from head office to see what it’s like in pleb shoes for a day with no notion of how condescending it was.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:33 |
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monkeu posted:Holy moley you loving idiots are lucky that I’ve been probated since this time yesterday
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:35 |
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Nice meltdown
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:42 |
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Zenithe posted:Nice meltdown
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monkeu posted:The blindingly obvious goal of shorten and the ALP is to form government after literally years of playing politics (in politics) and THEEEEEEEEN show your hand and pass the legislation you actually want to pass The last time the ALP small targeted itself into power and thheeeennnn showed it's hand it got spanked into humiliation by this dumb poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs7qE2FQLxw which led to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRaLlJJXWIU And then, not sure how you missed what happened next but spoiler alert: just for the perception of going against an election position we got this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40EWX6TXgH4 So far it seems the lesson they've learnt is *checks notes* don't do any progressive policy. I'd really like to be wrong on that, they might even turn out to be a great reforming ALP government. Recent form suggests otherwise. Meanwhile, the actual policies being put into effect loving suck for people. Despite their short term political value for the news.
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:46 |
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Am I dreaming or havent we already had cops busted using the last lot of new powers granted to them to spy on their ex's?
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Jonah Galtberg posted:i would feel even luckier if you got probated again and for a longer period noice
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:52 |
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BTW Barnaby Joyce and other coalition members are supporting the ACTU’s push against the casualisation of the workforce But only for miners lol https://www.smartcompany.com.au/business-advice/politics/committee-backs-move-stop-full-time-employees-replaced-casuals/
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# ? Dec 7, 2018 05:54 |
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https://twitter.com/abcsydney/status/1070894818321096706 She'll probably hang in.
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drunkill posted:https://twitter.com/abcsydney/status/1070894818321096706 I thought they had when she said she wasn't going to run at the next election. Didn't Labor have another candidate lined up to take her spot?
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get in the bin
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