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The current crop of GM trucks have bed sides that are right at 60" off the ground, completely miserable to load anything into them by hand. The depth of the beds is actually causing problems for people using 5th wheel/gooseneck trailers, lots of dented tailgates and beds. The 2019s are supposed to be even taller 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfg71KgtxO4 I'll take one.
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Dec 7, 2018 16:30
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its almost like they're aware that a certain group of people will take on any amount of debt imaginable to boost their fragile ego
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Dec 7, 2018 16:49
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I haven't been keeping up but it appears that everyone is making bigger dumber trucks and getting rid of all small cars *excited hootin' and hollerin' from all directions in the US, simultaneously*
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Dec 7, 2018 17:05
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MonkeyNutZ posted:The current crop of GM trucks have bed sides that are right at 60" off the ground, completely miserable to load anything into them by hand. The depth of the beds is actually causing problems for people using 5th wheel/gooseneck trailers, lots of dented tailgates and beds. If people actually wanted to put large objects in the back of their car they would get a van
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Dec 7, 2018 17:26
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MonkeyNutZ posted:The current crop of GM trucks have bed sides that are right at 60" off the ground, completely miserable to load anything into them by hand. The depth of the beds is actually causing problems for people using 5th wheel/gooseneck trailers, lots of dented tailgates and beds. Previous generations of trucks will get more and more valuable to people that actually use them because they will be the only ones left that are useful 
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Dec 7, 2018 18:57
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It's not so much that they want to see over other cars in traffic, it's that they don't want to see other traffic at all.
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Dec 7, 2018 19:14
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Why do you need to be able to see over other cars anyway?
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Dec 7, 2018 19:29
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Monkey Fracas posted:I haven't been keeping up but it appears that everyone is making bigger dumber trucks and getting rid of all small cars dumb country, so what
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Dec 7, 2018 19:55
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Throatwarbler posted:Here's the upper trim nose  This joke has been done to death already, hasn't it?
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Dec 7, 2018 21:05
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BraveUlysses posted:dumb country, so what I  my extremely big, extremely stupid country
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Dec 7, 2018 21:19
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davebo posted:It's not so much that they want to see over other cars in traffic, it's that they don't want to see other traffic at all. Well, now that everybody else has trucks, new trucks have to be taller to see over the previous generation of trucks. Just wait until the GM Futurliner style makes a comeback.
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Dec 7, 2018 21:31
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Well, at some point the vehicles will be so jacked up that it will be better to make something lower and see UNDER them. Hell make stuff narrower too and we can just drive under the gridlocked monsters.
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Dec 7, 2018 21:38
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Previous generations of trucks will get more and more valuable to people that actually use them because they will be the only ones left that are useful The old factory low-riding S10 xtreme is extremely popular among the geriatric gardener set for this exact reason
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Dec 7, 2018 22:01
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90s 2WD Silverados sat really low as well, and get comparable fuel economy to modern trucks out of the 305.
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Dec 7, 2018 23:06
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Pryor on Fire posted:The new car market is nearly dead. Just nobody buys cars anymore. In the mid 90's 1/3 of new vehicle purchasers were over 55. Today, it's 2/3. No one buys new cars but extremely no one under 40 is buying new anything.
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Dec 7, 2018 23:25
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:In the mid 90's 1/3 of new vehicle purchasers were over 55. Millennials killed cars 
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:The old factory low-riding S10 xtreme is extremely popular among the geriatric gardener set for this exact reason Any small truck, S10, Dakota, Ranger, they get ground down into dust as pool trucks around here.
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Dec 7, 2018 23:43
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bull3964 posted:Well, at some point the vehicles will be so jacked up that it will be better to make something lower and see UNDER them. One of the most terrifying experiences ends of my life is when I was driving my father's NA MX-5 to prepare it for sale (it was red so I needed to do a fair bit of polishing). I stopped at a red light in a 100km/h zone only to look in the rear view and see a lifted 4WD of some sort (either a Prado or Pajero I think) complete with chunky ARB bullbar and winch completely locked up and closing fast. It ended up stopping perhaps 3 metres behind the MX-5 but across both lanes at a 45 degree angle. The winch section of the bullbar was about level with the back of my head... Anyway that's my low car story, while I sometimes miss the old designs there is no way I'd want to be driving one with all the monsters that now inhabit the roads - makes me glad my modern Mazda3 is actually quite tall for a hatch.
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Tekne posted:RAM'S response to the Chevy Uggo has been spotted. They settled with generically ugly. 
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On that trim at least. The Gillette Razorhorn is very powerful.
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What, they couldn't even chrome the hood and fenders? Do they not understand what luxury is?
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Powershift posted:What, they couldn't even chrome the hood and fenders? Do they not understand what luxury is? I won’t be happy until someone releases a luxury truck trim with chrome tires.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Previous generations of trucks will get more and more valuable to people that actually use them because they will be the only ones left that are useful My first car was an early 90's GMC Sonoma and I regret getting rid of it all the time
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Dec 8, 2018 15:23
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drgitlin posted:I won’t be happy until someone releases a luxury truck trim with chrome tires. Isn't that what 22+" wheels are?
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Dec 8, 2018 15:37
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Whitewalls never died. They just became wheels
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Isn't that what 22+" wheels are? I mean the actual tires. Chrome, all over.
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Powershift posted:Millennials killed cars Hey, let's be fair: they killed motorcycles too.
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:Hey, let's be fair: they killed motorcycles too. Harley, we killed Harley
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KakerMix posted:Harley, we killed Harley And nothing of value was lost. I have a buddy with a 2018 Street Bob and he has to shift into neutral before second otherwise the transmission makes a horrible clunk. Took it to the dealer. "They're meant to do that". For twice the MSRP of another more capable bike? Crazy.
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Dec 8, 2018 20:03
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Monkey Fracas posted:I haven't been keeping up but it appears that everyone is making bigger dumber trucks and getting rid of all small cars
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Itzena posted:The next extended oil price spike and/or mass die-off of Boomers is going to be truly amazing to watch. Nah cause they're gonna drag the rest of us to the grave with them
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So, a win-win?
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pointsofdata posted:Why do you need to be able to see over other cars anyway? To be able to see things in front of those vehicles, like upcoming hazards or oncoming traffic when making a turn. It's obviously a zero-sum game, but I won't pretend it's not useful from time to time. I mean, when it comes to backing out of a parking spot between two large trucks, I have less use for a backup camera than I would for a loving periscope.
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MonkeyNutZ posted:The current crop of GM trucks have bed sides that are right at 60" off the ground, completely miserable to load anything into them by hand. The depth of the beds is actually causing problems for people using 5th wheel/gooseneck trailers, lots of dented tailgates and beds. Have people started to put medium duty style dedicated 5th wheel truck bed replacements on Class 1/2/3 yet?
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PT6A posted:To be able to see things in front of those vehicles, like upcoming hazards or oncoming traffic when making a turn. It's obviously a zero-sum game, but I won't pretend it's not useful from time to time. I mean, when it comes to backing out of a parking spot between two large trucks, I have less use for a backup camera than I would for a loving periscope. I feel like there must be a day coming where your car will be equipped with a tiny drone that will fly up and give you a video feed of your parking and oncoming traffic.
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vote_no posted:I feel like there must be a day coming where your car will be equipped with a tiny drone that will fly up and give you a video feed of your parking and oncoming traffic. *sometime in the 2030s* drat, my drone can't see anything past all of these other drones, and their rotors keep getting in the way! I need a bigger drone.
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PT6A posted:To be able to see things in front of those vehicles, like upcoming hazards or oncoming traffic when making a turn. It's obviously a zero-sum game, but I won't pretend it's not useful from time to time. I mean, when it comes to backing out of a parking spot between two large trucks, I have less use for a backup camera than I would for a loving periscope. Because taller cars tend to be longer and wider, and have additional blindspots, I feel like it is worse than zero sum but haven't checked the maths. E: I think that's correct. Imagine a highway full of Golfs compared to F-150s. You can see more in the former due to the smaller field of view obscured by the golf's, even when you are in the same car. distortion park fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Dec 9, 2018 |
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pointsofdata posted:Because taller cars tend to be longer and wider, and have additional blindspots, I feel like it is worse than zero sum but haven't checked the maths. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Unfortunately, everyone is prone to selfish behaviour and without any regulations discouraging taller, larger vehicles, well, we find ourselves in our current predicament. Gas taxes for non-commercial vehicles would work a treat. A co-worker of mine already just traded in his Silverado for a Golf recently because he was sick of paying for so much gas, and that was with gas prices the way they are currently. Imagine if they were .50/L more expensive!
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pointsofdata posted:
You can also see through the Golf since all the glass is at the same level as you.
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