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Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010




:allears:

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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

The "what happened elsewhere during the time Merkel was chairwoman" bit they did at the Parteitag made me think: Germany only had three chancellors during the last 36 years. During the same time there were six US presidents, 16 SPD chair(wo)men, 22 Italian prime ministers and 32 HSV managers :v:

e: and 53 chairpeople of the Greens though that's unfair, since they always have at least two at the same time and at one point even had nine of them

System Metternich fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Dec 8, 2018

elbkaida
Jan 13, 2008
Look!
That extra3 logo means the "AKK muss weg" stuff is a joke, right? It's a joke? :ohdear:

Dommolus Magnus
Feb 27, 2013

elbkaida posted:

That extra3 logo means the "AKK muss weg" stuff is a joke, right? It's a joke? :ohdear:

You know drat well that jokes aren't allowed on German TV.

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Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

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elbkaida posted:

That extra3 logo means the "AKK muss weg" stuff is a joke, right? It's a joke? :ohdear:

Merkel 2.0 muss weg!!!! NIEDER MIT DEN UMVOLKUNGSELITEN!!!111!! 1488 HH :godwinning:

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
There are facebook people asking why Merkel is still doing chancellor stuff now that she's not chancellor anymore. :cripes:

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Mithaldu posted:

There are facebook people asking why Merkel is still doing chancellor stuff now that she's not chancellor anymore. :cripes:

Befriend other people

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Morgen ist Bahnstreik.

Und in Berlin gibt es mal wieder Graswurzelarbeit von der politischen Linken.

Randler fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Dec 9, 2018

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Lord Stimperor posted:

Befriend other people

I don't use facebook, i saw it in a link by a person on irc who got it from who knows where.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

If these guys weren't violent nationalists, they'd be pretty funny.

Also, as a bit of irony, being nationalists with socialist tendencies they're best described as nationalsocialists.

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

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Finally someone takes a stand against the dangerous communist nazi jews

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Randler posted:

Morgen ist Bahnstreik.

This is highly sub-optimal

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

Simply Simon posted:

They really need to get a certain former minister of justice in that position so with some "luck", politicians all over the world would have to study for hours how to pronounce "chancellor Kramp-Karrenbauer and her vice, Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger".

I think at that point most countries will just choose not to talk to Germany

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

I got nervous and looked up my work connection, but apparently Hannover is exempt from the Streik. At least there were no changes, so I'm good to go.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
Haha, that's a lot of faith.

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Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

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Mithaldu posted:

If these guys weren't violent nationalists, they'd be pretty funny.

Also, as a bit of irony, being nationalists with socialist tendencies they're best described as nationalsocialists.



:lol:

can't some antifa make themselves useful and punch these national socialist stereotypes straight out of a /b/ shitpost in the face

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Ich habe übrigens gerade ein Weihnachtsgeschenk für euch Sonderlinge bestellt.

Schleich Vorschau:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTL0CM4dI3o

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Oct 10, 2012

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suck my woke dick posted:

:lol:

can't some antifa make themselves useful and punch these national socialist stereotypes straight out of a /b/ shitpost in the face

just noticed some shithead censored their faces

name and shame

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


suck my woke dick posted:

just noticed some shithead censored their faces

name and shame

From the outfits these appear to be students. So whoever hid their faces made the right call by not locking them into that culture forever.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Jugendwiderstand sounds like LF came to life and started haunting Berlin. Some probably post in D&D

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

pidan posted:

From the outfits these appear to be students. So whoever hid their faces made the right call by not locking them into that culture forever.

The articles talk about how they're mostly rich gymnasiasts who moved to berlin to join the violent army in defense of Mao.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

:hundi:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010


Kein Leerzitat.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011


Fyi, shilling your own songs is against forum rules

Dommolus Magnus
Feb 27, 2013
Dunno about the new emote. Compared to the one it was based on it seems rather diminuitve. Compare:

:smugdog: :hundi:

It actually makes it rather difficult to see that the dog is wearing a pickelhaube. Almost looks more like he is wearing a candle on his hat.

I'll give it 3/10.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Just ask some admin to replace it with the correctly sized version. This one is sad.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Much like the recovery of the SPD's vote share, the ability to buy emoticons taller than 25 pixels has long been promised but not been delievered. :(

Otherwise I would have purchased the original version years ago.

Size chart:

:smugdog: :hundi:

Randler fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 9, 2018

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Surely we have taller ones

:hundi: :boom: :d2a:

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
Die FAZ will wohl allen Ernstes die Bild rechts überholen:

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Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

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FAZing off

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Batz the FAZ.

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
Wieso bitte darf dieser Typ auch nur anfangen, zu versuchen zu bestimmen was ihm wildfremde Frauen mit dem eigenen Körper tun??

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Oct 10, 2012

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Lunar Suite posted:

Wieso bitte darf dieser Typ nicht anfangen, zu versuchen zu bestimmen was Gebärmutterträger mit dem volkseigenen Embryo vollentwickelten Nachwuchs tun??

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Also nice job of the FAZ to call a Fachärztin für Allgemeinmedizin (general practitioner) a "Abtreibungsärztin" (abortion doctor).

Perestroika fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Dec 10, 2018

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

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TEAM-MATE

Lunar Suite posted:

Wieso bitte darf dieser Typ auch nur anfangen, zu versuchen zu bestimmen was ihm wildfremde Frauen mit dem eigenen Körper tun??

Wieso dürfen Frauen ungestraft ein meschliches Wesen töten (lassen) wäre die Gegenfrage.

Es gibt ja schließlich immer noch keine klare Definition, wann menschliches Leben beginnt. Nur so als Frage, findest du Abtreibungen im neunten Monat okay? Und wenn nicht, ist eine Festlegung auf 3 Monate zum Beispiel nicht ziemlich willkürlich?

Ich persönlich finde das schon ein extrem schwieriges Thema. Dummerweise vertreten viele Leute im anti-Abreibungslager Positionen wie "kein Sex vor der Ehe", "keine freie Verhütung", "Verhütung is überhaupt unmoralisch, Sex sollte nur zum Kinder Zeugen sein", "Frauen sind Schlampen wenn sie ungewollt schwanger werden", etc. Was ultimativ im "Frauen dürfen keine Abtreibungen haben, als Bestrafung für ihr unmoralisches Sexleben" endet. Sowas ist natürlich totaler Schwachsinn, und definitiv verwehrt Frauen Autonomie über ihren eigenen Körper. Das Abtreibungsverbot ist da ein natürlicher Teil dieser Frauenverachtenden Philosophie. Und dazu kommt selbstverständlich auch, dass vielen dieser Leute das Schicksal des Kindes und der Mutter nach der Geburt herzlich egal ist. Alleinerziehende Mütter zu unterstützen würde ja nur deren Sünde belohnen!

Aber trotzdem bestimmt eine Frau bei einer Abtreibung nunmal nicht nur über ihren eigenen Körper, sonder auch den ihres Kindes. Deshalb finde ich schon, dass man das differenziert betrachten muss. Natürlich ist es schonmal grundsätzlich unfair, dass dieses Problem nur Frauen betrifft. Weshalb es für mich als Mann auch extrem schwer ist, hier irgendwas zu sagen. Aber wie gesagt, wann zieht man den Strich, dass menschliches Leben beginnt (und Abtreibung zum Mord wird), und wann der Fötus nur eine Ansammlung von Zellen ist (was Abtreibung eine Sache für die Frau allein macht)? Ich finde alle vorgeschlagenen Methoden ziemlich willkürlich, während die "das menschliche Leben beginnt mit der Empfängnis" Methode den Vorzug hat, einfach und klar zu sein. Was wiederum den prinzipiellen Stand zulässt, dass Abtreibungen nie zulässig sein sollten.

Deshalb würde es in meiner Idealwelt auch keine Abtreibungen geben. Männer und Frauen würden zuverlässige Verhütungsmittel unbürokratisch vom Staat gestellt bekommen, Mütter hätten noch besseren Schutz was das Arbeitsrecht angeht, es gibt eine Garantie auf kostenlose Ganztagskrippenplätze, Ganztagskindergartenplätze und Ganztagsschulplätze für berufstätige Mütter, sowie bessere finanzielle Unterstützung. Und was einem sonst noch so einfällt. Es gäbe also quasi gar keine unerwünschten Schwangerschaften, was selbstverständlich ein relativ feiges Wunschdenken meinerseits ist, um das schwierige Thema eines Abtreibungsverbot relativ reibungslos zu lösen.

Wie man von der jetzigen Lage zu meiner Tramvorstellung gelangt ist natürlich ne offene Frage. Und tatsächlich finde ich die bestehende Regelung keinesfalls unerträglich. Und gerade wegen der fehlenden Unterstützung für gerade ärmere Mütter (und Paare mit Kindern allgemein) wäre es absolut nicht akzeptabel, Abtreibungen zu verbieten ohne irgendwas anderes zu ändern. Trotzdem finde ich, dass man aus prinzipientreuen Gründen gegen Abtreibung sein kann, ohne gleich Frauenfeindlich zu sein zu müssen.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


If you assume the fetus as a person, abortion can be seen as self defense. If some rando came up to you and threatened to harm your body in the ways that pregnancy can, you could legally kill him if you can't get away otherwise. So why not a fetus?

That said I think the law is good as it is and would not want to see "abortion deal of the month 300€" ads in women's magazines like you see in China.

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

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A Zellhaufen is not lebensfähig, a 5-month-old fetus might be with current technology, an 8-month-old one for sure is. I don't think killing the possibility of a baby should have any moral quandaries attached, or we'll have to talk päpstlich about contraception methods. Of course the line is arbitrary as technology allows früher and früher Frühchen to live, but I think it's relatively easy to draw nonetheless: when it's unclear, let the pregnant woman decide.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Actually I just read the wiki article on Notwehr in my lunch break and now my head is ringing:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notwehr_(Deutschland)

Not only because in one place it says the attack doesn't need to be schuldhaft for Notwehr to apply, but later it says Notwehrrecht does not apply if the attacker "erkennbar schuldlos handelt". Glad I'm not a Jurist.

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Oct 10, 2012

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pidan posted:

Actually I just read the wiki article on Notwehr in my lunch break and now my head is ringing:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notwehr_(Deutschland)

Not only because in one place it says the attack doesn't need to be schuldhaft for Notwehr to apply, but later it says Notwehrrecht does not apply if the attacker "erkennbar schuldlos handelt". Glad I'm not a Jurist.

I'm sure you can pedantically point out that while the attacker was schuldlos this was not immediately obvious to you, a person of average idiocy, at the point where you did some Notwehr.

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skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.

Simply Simon posted:

A Zellhaufen is not lebensfähig, a 5-month-old fetus might be with current technology, an 8-month-old one for sure is. I don't think killing the possibility of a baby should have any moral quandaries attached, or we'll have to talk päpstlich about contraception methods. Of course the line is arbitrary as technology allows früher and früher Frühchen to live, but I think it's relatively easy to draw nonetheless: when it's unclear, let the pregnant woman decide.

It's interesting that we have this verniedlichte word for these children, "Frühchen". Feels like it was subconscoiusly , or conciously" invented to just put even more sympathy on these "brave little survivors".

Abtreibungen will always be a thing, cause every contraception can fail, and sometimes you need the "pille danach" ,

und da wir schlicht nicht feststellen können wann ein Fötus eine Seele hat und dann nichtmehr "nur" ein Fötus ist, sollte Abtreibung liberal geregelt sein und nicht von konservativen alten Männern denen Kinderarmut, Kitaplätze oder Schulbildung an all ihren 9-Monate schwangeren, adipösen Ärschen vorbeigeht

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