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Eggnogium
Jun 1, 2010

Never give an inch! Hnnnghhhhhh!

DevNull posted:

https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1060305143038652426

https://twitter.com/mirandayaver/status/1060275607735595009

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1060275110433751044

They are making him out to be a victim. Imagine thinking "our" democracy depended on Sessions. Just like they have rehabbed others, they will do the same with Sessions. They have made a hero out of Bush for the sake of "resisting" Trump.

If they aren't defending Session, they could start by not calling it a "Sessions protest"

1 and 3 are not expressing any sympathy towards Sessions as a man or public official. Only that the fact of his recusal was an important element keeping Trump's fingers off Mueller, and the fact that Trump fired him indicates Trump is actively making moves to kneecap it or shut it down. Especially since on every other issue Sessions has been wildly successful at furthering Trump's agenda. The investigation is

2 is just the banal observation that Trump is capricious towards his lackeys when they lose his favor.

I am sorry you are so obtuse as to not understand all this, everyone else understands it just fine and can make simple distinctions between different consequences of the same event.

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George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
You guys just can't resist ending with lame insults, can you? Just argue with each other, don't punctuate with insults unless you're good at it.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

DevNull posted:

https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1060305143038652426

https://twitter.com/mirandayaver/status/1060275607735595009

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1060275110433751044

They are making him out to be a victim. Imagine thinking "our" democracy depended on Sessions. Just like they have rehabbed others, they will do the same with Sessions. They have made a hero out of Bush for the sake of "resisting" Trump.

If they aren't defending Session, they could start by not calling it a "Sessions protest"
Don't forget about James Comey. Same deal.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

DevNull posted:

https://twitter.com/RepSwalwell/status/1060305143038652426

https://twitter.com/mirandayaver/status/1060275607735595009

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1060275110433751044

They are making him out to be a victim. Imagine thinking "our" democracy depended on Sessions. Just like they have rehabbed others, they will do the same with Sessions. They have made a hero out of Bush for the sake of "resisting" Trump.

If they aren't defending Session, they could start by not calling it a "Sessions protest"

Sorry, boss but none of those are dems worrying about the fate of the racist keebler elf. You are grasping at straws here because you don't like the dems.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

therobit posted:

Sorry, boss but none of those are dems worrying about the fate of the racist keebler elf. You are grasping at straws here because you don't like the dems.

There are also massive legal ramifications to firing the AG vs. the AG resigning, but don’t let that stop complaints analyst Dems.

Much like those complaints that WA state has no voting rights restoration when it’s right there on the SoS website.

Maybe do some research before lashing out at every last loving thing.

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002


Solkanar512 posted:


Much like those complaints that WA state has no voting rights restoration when it’s right there on the SoS website.


lol I love you're still salty about that

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Solkanar512 posted:

Much like those complaints that WA state has no voting rights restoration when it’s right there on the SoS website.

Maybe do some research before lashing out at every last loving thing.
That was me, and in my defense, that was a huge loving issue in 2008, when I was doing voter registration for the Obama campaign during the primary, and I hadn't heard that it had been corrected.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Mona Das overtook rapist Joe Fain in the state Senate race :getin:

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
Any news on the overall WA House/Senate results? I know political control hasn't changed, but how much did the margins change between parties?

ETA: Ok, so looking at the SoS App and the wiki page, there seems to be two clear Dem pick ups in the Senate (26, 30) and two very close races also going R->D (42, 47).

If nothing else, that additional margin should be incredibly helpful.

Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Nov 9, 2018

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.

seiferguy posted:

Mona Das overtook rapist Joe Fain in the state Senate race :getin:

Yessssssssssss. I don't care how biased it makes me, whenever a Male Republican candidate has a super sugary election add I assume they're even worse than normal.

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.
Looks like Fain conceded so Mona Das is in.

Schmeichy
Apr 22, 2007

2spooky4u


Smellrose

Tulalip Tulips posted:

Looks like Fain conceded so Mona Das is in.

Got me like :slick: on a Saturday morning

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Merkley getting closer to running... https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/11/13/jeff-merkley-seeks-oregon-law-change-to-clear-the-way-for-2020-presidential-bid/ I generally like the guy but I don't understand this. He just doesn't seem like he'd get any traction and all he's going to do is join the ranks of the mockable early drop outs.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

xrunner posted:

Merkley getting closer to running... https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/11/13/jeff-merkley-seeks-oregon-law-change-to-clear-the-way-for-2020-presidential-bid/ I generally like the guy but I don't understand this. He just doesn't seem like he'd get any traction and all he's going to do is join the ranks of the mockable early drop outs.

I think he does well in the Senate, but he’s not exactly a high profile guy, at the end of the day he’s about as charismatic and exciting as a celery stick. Not that I have a better answer, but it’d be nice to have someone who could fire up a crowd.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Well if he runs Oregon's like three electoral votes are in the bag, how can you turn that down??

Ardlen
Sep 30, 2005
WoT



Javid posted:

Well if he runs Oregon's like three electoral votes are in the bag, how can you turn that down??
Hey now, Oregon has a grand total of seven electoral votes. I'm sure that's enough to win!

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhhhhhhjhhhhhhhhhjjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cannabis
https://www.theolympian.com/news/politics-government/article221741230.html#storylink=latest_side

The NRA is trying to block the gun control initiative that was passed in Washington. I guess they figured it'd be quicker to block it after it passed through a legal battle than to try to lobby against it during the campaign?

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
Probably. Now's the time to tee these things up to reach the supreme court in 2019/2020.

Reene
Aug 26, 2005

:justpost:

Protest around Chapman is getting slightly rowdy.

https://twitter.com/itsmikebivins/status/1063929019131817984

(upthread in this link is a picture of antifa mooning the cops :buddy:)

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Tim Eyman filed for bankruptcy, lmao

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/tim-eyman-files-for-bankruptcy-blames-legal-fight-with-ag/

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"


I want more, what laws can we pass that prevent another like him so it's not just a "No Tim Eyman's" law?

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

RuanGacho posted:

I want more, what laws can we pass that prevent another like him so it's not just a "No Tim Eyman's" law?

it also apparently ruined his marriage. his wife is divorcing him

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Sometimes Christmas comes on November 29th.

Poor, poor pink Darth Vader.

quote:

Eyman reported an average monthly income of $42,843 since May 1. Of the total, $5,261 are earnings from Voters Want More Choices, his political committee, and Watchdog for Taxpayers, a separate for-profit corporation run solely by Eyman.

Of the remainder, he reported receiving an average of $21,732 a month in gifts from relatives and friends, and $15,849 a month from a legal defense fund.

No red flags here!

1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Nov 30, 2018

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
Well that certainly sounds like money laundering.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF
A failed marriage, a ruined life, committing criminal activity, and potential prison time is a small price to pay for trying to stop an increase in funding for public transit.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

I want an initiative that's just basically "Undo everything Tim Eyman ever got passed" just for the salt in the wound.

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


They should change the options on advisory votes to 'maintain', 'repeal' and 'Go gently caress yourself Tim Eyman'

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Feel good story of the year right here. Really brightened my morning up.

Seriously though that can't really be anything other than laundering right?

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

silicone thrills posted:

Feel good story of the year right here. Really brightened my morning up.

Seriously though that can't really be anything other than laundering right?

Laundering or maybe just a tax avoidance scheme?

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

silicone thrills posted:

Feel good story of the year right here. Really brightened my morning up.

Seriously though that can't really be anything other than laundering right?

According to the article he is still facing possible repercussions for campaign finance violations so, god willing, he may end up in prison over it.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Spergin Morlock posted:

According to the article he is still facing possible repercussions for campaign finance violations so, god willing, he may end up in prison over it.

I love how he racked up like $120k in contempt fines, at 1k/day. What kind of judge just doesn’t throw you in jail after the first week or so?

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Solkanar512 posted:

I love how he racked up like $120k in contempt fines, at 1k/day. What kind of judge just doesn’t throw you in jail after the first week or so?

Maybe one who wants you to face the full consequences of your actions? For a perma-grifter like Tim Eyman being financially ruined is probably more punishing than spending some time in prison especially because he can try to parlay that into some kind of martyrdom bullshit.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


pseudanonymous posted:

Maybe one who wants you to face the full consequences of your actions? For a perma-grifter like Tim Eyman being financially ruined is probably more punishing than spending some time in prison especially because he can try to parlay that into some kind of martyrdom bullshit.

He can keep grifting from jail as long as he still has funds.

This hurts him way more.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
If it has to be either/or then I'd choose the fines over the jail time, $120,000 can pay for a lot of school supplies.

twodot
Aug 7, 2005

You are objectively correct that this person is dumb and has said dumb things

Solkanar512 posted:

I love how he racked up like $120k in contempt fines, at 1k/day. What kind of judge just doesn’t throw you in jail after the first week or so?
Once you have someone in jail, you can't really make their situation worse. The real question is what kind of judge doesn't start doubling fines after the first week or so?

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

twodot posted:

Once you have someone in jail, you can't really make their situation worse. The real question is what kind of judge doesn't start doubling fines after the first week or so?

I’m not sure why you can’t keep the fines going (or increasing) and let him rot in jail.

Come on folks, think outside the box!

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

This is a man whose grift has robbed untold millions out of the state budget, why waste more on locking him up?

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Helter Skelter posted:

This is a man whose grift has robbed untold millions out of the state budget, why waste more on locking him up?

I'm admittedly torn on this. On the one hand I hate how we needlessly and brutally send so many people to prison. On the other hand if we're going to keep doing it I want to see the pain spread around and see dudes in suits going to prison.


EDIT: okay yeah I know jail is not exactly synonymous with prison but I'm sure you all know what I mean

im on the net me boys
Feb 19, 2017

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hey so who the gently caress https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2018/12/12/sea-lions-have-enemies-now-someone-is-shooting-them-head/

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therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Fishermen, that's who. Also gently caress sea lions let's kill them when they come inland until the salmon are doing better.

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