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There's a specific carve-out in the law for a President's personal White House staff*. So the President could appoint a relative to be an aide, his chief of staff, or the Drug Czar, but not to be the Secretary of State. It's how Clinton appointed Hilary to be the head of his National Healthcare Reform task force. *H.R. 11003 (95th): "A bill to clarify the authority for employment of personnel in the White House Office and the Executive Residence at the White House, to clarify the authority for employment of personnel by the President to meet unanticipated needs, and for other purposes." Old Kentucky Shark fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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rules only matter if they’re enforced guess how many rules havent been enforced in the past two years
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Dec 14, 2018 03:28
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:There's a specific carve-out in the law for a President's personal White House staff*. So the President could appoint a relative to be an aide, his chief of staff, or the Drug Czar, but not to be the Secretary of State. So was this bill created specifically in reaction to RFK being picked as Attorney General?
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Zwabu posted:So was this bill created specifically in reaction to RFK being picked as Attorney General? Oh you know it.
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New election coming in NC 9th district https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/1...st%3D9999999999
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Zwabu posted:So was this bill created specifically in reaction to RFK being picked as Attorney General? Acebuckeye13 posted:Oh you know it. Except RFK was actually good at his job and would’ve been president had he not been killed.
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Trump was at the 2015 meeting where the hush money payments were decided on. https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/1...st%3D9999999999
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Party Plane Jones posted:3https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1073091055686422529 The character assassination of Donald Trump by the coward Michael Cohen
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 Wellllll Governor Walker is set to sign the lame duck bills in a spot about as far from the Capitol press corps as you can get while still being in a major city. Also noteworthy, he waiting until the day after he inked a new funding package for a multinational corporation without authorization from the Legislature, a power that just so happens to be leaving once he signs these bills.  EDIT: He signed all three bills, no changes. https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1073645547750350851 Nerdlord Actual fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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Dec 14, 2018 17:45
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Welp, Jared couldn’t cut the mustard https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1073703744766922754?s=21
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:There's a specific carve-out in the law for a President's personal White House staff*. So the President could appoint a relative to be an aide, his chief of staff, or the Drug Czar, but not to be the Secretary of State. I was under the impression that this only covered the office of First Lady ("Authorizes the personnel assistance permitted by this Act to the President and Vice President to be rendered to their respective spouses when such spouses are assisting the President or Vice President, respectively, in carrying out their duties."), and not the rest of the family. So Hillary could run that task force because she was Bill's wife, but Chelsea would not have been able to. Here's the text of the law. quote:"(e) Assistance and services authorized pursuant to this section to the President are authorized to be provided to the spouse of the President in connection with assistance provided by such spouse to the President in the discharge of the President's duties and responsibilities. If the President does not have a spouse, such assistance and services may be provided for such purposes to a member of the President's family whom the President designates.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Welp, Jared couldn’t cut the mustard The one guy so focused on his aggressively regressive agenda that he literally cannot spare a breath to turn down any appointment Trump heaps on him, due to the furious exertion of his shoveling federal funds into monument-scale woodchippers
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/14/judge-rules-obamacare-unconstitutional-1066640 Judge rules Obamacare unconstitutional, endangering coverage for 20 million quote:A federal judge in Texas late Friday threw the health coverage of some 20 million Americans in limbo by ruling Obamacare must be scrapped because Congress struck the penalty for failing to obtain insurance coverage.
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Hellblazer187 posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/14/judge-rules-obamacare-unconstitutional-1066640 Can't wait to die from treatable illness next year. Also, this is kind of I infuriating because only one judge said that it was the tax aspect that made it constitutional the other eight didn't but that's what they're going with for the tool to kill it.
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Hellblazer187 posted:https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/14/judge-rules-obamacare-unconstitutional-1066640 So how fast does an injunction get filed and how long does this even stand before it gets overturned?
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:So how fast does an injunction get filed and how long does this even stand before it gets overturned? Probably hours.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:So how fast does an injunction get filed and how long does this even stand before it gets overturned? Apparently the crazy judge declined to file an injunction.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Apparently the crazy judge declined to file an injunction. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Probably hours. i think people are referring to different things: - this judge didn't issue a nation-wide injunction that would prohibit the government from administering the ACA, so things will likely continue as usual - but also, the appellees will request an injunction from the 5th Circuit, staying this ruling pending appeal - so just in case the Trump admin decides to start loving with the ACA they'd be prohibited from doing so this is probably the correct take: https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/1073767864518217728
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Doesn't this ruling directly contradict what the SC said in the original case, that the individual mandate was a tax and the government has the power to tax? Seems like a stunt more than anything legitimate.
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Deteriorata posted:Doesn't this ruling directly contradict what the SC said in the original case, that the individual mandate was a tax and the government has the power to tax? Yes, but now Republicans zeroed out the tax, so its no longer a tax, so now its unconstitutional according to the ruling
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So Republicans cherry picked a judge they knew would rule the way they wanted. The judge doesn't order an injunction, issues his ruling very late on a Friday afternoon, and sets the table very neatly for an orderly appeal that Republicans will certainly lose, given existing Congressional intent, at the very end of the enrollment window. This won't affect anything at all.
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saintonan posted:So Republicans cherry picked a judge they knew would rule the way they wanted. The judge doesn't order an injunction, issues his ruling very late on a Friday afternoon, and sets the table very neatly for an orderly appeal that Republicans will certainly lose, given existing Congressional intent, at the very end of the enrollment window. This won't affect anything at all. Then what is the loving point? Why do Republicans do these stupid things? It's mind boggling. Their own voters do not want them to do these things, their paymasters and donors and lobbyists don't want them to do these things, they continually motivate and energize votes for their opposition by doing these things. Literally nobody wins, NOT EVEN THEMSELVES.
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Sanguinia posted:Then what is the loving point? Why do Republicans do these stupid things? It's mind boggling. Their own voters do not want them to do these things, their paymasters and donors and lobbyists don't want them to do these things, they continually motivate and energize votes for their opposition by doing these things. Literally nobody wins, NOT EVEN THEMSELVES. I dunno man, I live in blood red Gowdy country and so-called fiscal conservatives have no problem pouring millions of dollars into literal moral victories so long as their persecution complex is being vigorously serviced.
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Sanguinia posted:Then what is the loving point? Why do Republicans do these stupid things? It's mind boggling. Their own voters do not want them to do these things, their paymasters and donors and lobbyists don't want them to do these things, they continually motivate and energize votes for their opposition by doing these things. Literally nobody wins, NOT EVEN THEMSELVES. The richest ones do, this tightens their noose around the necks of the masses just a little bit more, our literal lives and well-beings are being transferred to the privatized hands of the wealthy few.
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saintonan posted:So Republicans cherry picked a judge they knew would rule the way they wanted. The judge doesn't order an injunction, issues his ruling very late on a Friday afternoon, and sets the table very neatly for an orderly appeal that Republicans will certainly lose, given existing Congressional intent, at the very end of the enrollment window. This won't affect anything at all. says increasingly nervous local man
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Sanguinia posted:Then what is the loving point? Why do Republicans do these stupid things? It's mind boggling. Their own voters do not want them to do these things, their paymasters and donors and lobbyists don't want them to do these things, they continually motivate and energize votes for their opposition by doing these things. Literally nobody wins, NOT EVEN THEMSELVES. They made promises, and even if making good creates huge problems that nobody actually wants they'll still get dragged by their base if they don't follow through. Their best bet to make a bunch of grand procedural gestures that accomplish very little so they can return to their die-hard supporters and say, "look at how we tried! But woe is us, the government is just too big and out of control. Also, please pay no attention to the fact that we currently are the government, it's all the Dems fault—vote for us, and we'll keep fighting the good fight!" Over the past decade, the national-level GOP kinda forgot how to be anything other than the party of opposition. Dog catches car, etc., etc.
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Sanguinia posted:Then what is the loving point? Why do Republicans do these stupid things? It's mind boggling. Their own voters do not want them to do these things, their paymasters and donors and lobbyists don't want them to do these things, they continually motivate and energize votes for their opposition by doing these things. Literally nobody wins, NOT EVEN THEMSELVES. Because they ran on it, and they're not morons who think they can just tell their voters "oh the things we promised you aren't *pragmatic* you understand"
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the article posted:But criminal justice is something personal. Mr. Kushner’s father, after being sentenced in 2005, served 14 months in an Alabama federal prison for tax evasion, witness tampering and making illegal donations.  Further detail on the witness tampering: al.com posted:Charles Kushner send his sister Esther a tape showing her husband William Schulder with a prostitute hired by Kushner to discredit his brother-in-law, who was cooperating with federal authorities.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Is there really a connection between the criminal justice changes and what happened with Kushner's father? If so, is it because there's softer sentencing for white collar crimes?
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https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1073947810763026433 There goes another one. [your signature is being processed. check the notification bar for updates]
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There may be a lot of guys like that leaving before House Dems get all up in their grilles.
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saintonan posted:There may be a lot of guys like that leaving before House Dems get all up in their grilles. I'm not sure what they think it's going to buy them. They need to leave. (From a local newspaper) As of 2015, the following had no extradition treaty with the US: Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.
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Can't the house dems still investigate them if they leave for things they did during their tenure? edit: indeed
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Captain Invictus posted:Can't the house dems still investigate them if they leave for things they did during their tenure? Probably but since there is such a ridiculous amount of people to investigate and there’s only so much time and resources available maybe they think that they’ll be considered a lower priority if they bail out ahead of time.
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There’s also an unspoken rule that of you resign you get investigated less or not at all unless your crimes were really bad. This is ostensibly to encourage people who are guilty to resign rather than make a fight of it.
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fool_of_sound posted:There’s also an unspoken rule that of you resign you get investigated less or not at all unless your crimes were really bad. This is ostensibly to encourage people who are guilty to resign rather than make a fight of it. That’s why the absolute smartest thing Trump could do would be to resign and have Pence give him a blanket pardon. But well, he lacks even the most basic level of self awareness to consider it.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That’s why the absolute smartest thing Trump could do would be to resign and have Pence give him a blanket pardon. But well, he lacks even the most basic level of self awareness to consider it. I wonder if Pence has sat him down and tried to explain this to him or if he's too dumb to realize Trump is too dumb to know this OR he realizes that Trump will read it as a threat and throw him out for it
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