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Nothus posted:They really hate Rania Khalek. Rania is a triple threat that's leftist, contextualizes Syria, and makes them horny.
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Trying to get the local ISIS affiliate in Syria to take her out by tweeting out her location with a group of other reporters is pretty high up there for hateful things to do for a person.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Rania is a triple threat that's leftist, contextualizes Syria, and makes them horny. These are all admirable qualities.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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the great deceiver posted:i have to recommend the Sinn Fein episode and the Good Friday Agreement episode, John really knows his stuff when it comes to Northern Ireland and had some pretty interesting stories from being active in irish republican activism back in the day These were all really good. I'd like to hear him talk more about the history and organization of the Ulster loyalist militias (from an academic interest; gently caress those people) though since those episodes focus more on Irish republican movements.
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Dec 18, 2018 00:55
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deadking posted:These were all really good. I'd like to hear him talk more about the history and organization of the Ulster loyalist militias (from an academic interest; gently caress those people) though since those episodes focus more on Irish republican movements. totally agreed, they're absolute scumbags but the history of the loyalist paramilitaries like the UVF and the UDA is pretty fascinating. i'm not holding my breath for anymore episodes about The Troubles anytime soon tho because I guess John doesnt really like to talk about Northern Ireland much anymore because it reminds him of a dark period of his life or something like that. kinda frustrating and annoying but also very on-brand for John Dolan
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Dec 18, 2018 10:22
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the great deceiver posted:totally agreed, they're absolute scumbags but the history of the loyalist paramilitaries like the UVF and the UDA is pretty fascinating. i'm not holding my breath for anymore episodes about The Troubles anytime soon tho because I guess John doesnt really like to talk about Northern Ireland much anymore because it reminds him of a dark period of his life or something like that. kinda frustrating and annoying but also very on-brand for John Dolan When John was a big Irish Republican guy, he was basically a committed American nationalist. He and Mark both had phases of young adulthood where they were right wingers.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:When John was a big Irish Republican guy, he was basically a committed American nationalist. He and Mark both had phases of young adulthood where they were right wingers. yeah so what was dolan like in the early 90s under thatcher/major? i think volker linked a 2002 essay in a d&d thread that seemed a lil flippant also i don't hear an accent, so was he just like a boston irish guy or whatever? gotta admit the last year of shows of him saying "ohhh, we have to go from turin to syracuse is haaard" is offputting
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Dec 18, 2018 11:06
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both john and mark are native californians. huh, i knew mark used to be a right-winger but didn't know that about john. figured an english professor at Berkeley was probably always a lefty or at least a liberal. but yeah from what i've picked up it seems like John was severely depressed or unhappy when he was involved in irish republican activism in the Bay; i could see him being an American nationalist be embarrassing enough to him where he wouldnt want to talk about that time in his life at all.
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oh yeah, i remember dolan talking about memorizing the missions how in hell did he end up in republican politics
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Its particularly boggling as IRA politics have always been some brand of left wing, from the provos socialist stuff to the INLAs communism. But I guess at the same time its a red tinged nationalism at the end of the day and more reactionary than not.
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yeah i don't know a ton of irish politics but know that sinn fein has emerged as the explicit left-wing party in both the republic and NI
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i say swears online posted:yeah so what was dolan like in the early 90s under thatcher/major? i think volker linked a 2002 essay in a d&d thread that seemed a lil flippant I only know what they've said about themselves in articles and on the pod, I'm not his biographer. 
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Southpaugh posted:Its particularly boggling as IRA politics have always been some brand of left wing, from the provos socialist stuff to the INLAs communism. But I guess at the same time its a red tinged nationalism at the end of the day and more reactionary than not. I think the Irish experience is probably best thought of along the lines of other left-wing nationalist movements in former colonies during decolonization, although the history of British Ireland is in many ways quite different from Britain's colonial holdings. As Dolan explains the Troubles take on a pronounced sectarian character in the 60s because of violence inflicted by the loyalists and the Northern Irish police against catholic communities but I think that strand of anti-colonial left nationalism remains throughout.
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There is also something that is familiar to many male goons, basically being on the outside of the cool kids looking in, feeling alienated, and indulging in power fantasies. And those fantasies will populate the identity and temperament vessels available, the only rule is they have to be reasonably opposed to the dominant narrative the cool kids implicitly endorse. Those vessels can switch rapidly, and any time you meet a smart super-ideological youth it's a decent bet that they won't have that same stance down the road. I have some pop psyche ideas, a few of which they've said themselves, about Ames hating his dad (anti-authoritarian punk!) and Dolan being Irish (morose affinity for tragic failure!) but I don't really have a crystalized version of them and think having strong opinions along those lines is a fool's pastime anyway.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075397797929775105?s=19 The loving over of Rojava that Mark and John predicted is on the menu for 2019.
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i say swears online posted:yeah so what was dolan like in the early 90s under thatcher/major? i think volker linked a 2002 essay in a d&d thread that seemed a lil flippant They talked about this a bit I think being a right wing nationalist in the 70s when your hero was Richard Nixon (America's last keynesian president) and you associated liberalism with the foreign and domestic failures of the carter admin was different from being right wing post 83 when the full scale of what living under neoliberalism meant if you weren't rich sunk in. I think that's when both of them went left Also what 2002 essay? Was he writing as himself or in character as brecher?
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I think Ames was still pretty right wing in the 80s when he was at Berkeley? But in a punk rock sort of way. I think Dolan's talked about growing up angry and aimless and trying to fit in anywhere he could, so due to his heritage he drifted into Irish Republicanism but wasn't actively involved in anything violent, being a coward (in his own words, I am not saying that pejoratively).
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There's just so much lovely, angry conservatism in the Bay Area, especially back then. I can look back now and see it in my family and myself when I was growing up there in the 80s; it's hard to describe, it's just a way of life that is so vacuous and soulless it's like having a black pit inside you that is completely empty.
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Nothus posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075397797929775105?s=19 it would be like the 3rd or 4th time this decade alone the USA has completely screwed over the Kurds after leaving them out to dry over the independence referendum in Iraq and literally everything about Nouri al Maliki's time as PM
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420 Gank Mid posted:it would be like the 3rd or 4th time this decade alone the USA has completely screwed over the Kurds after leaving them out to dry over the independence referendum in Iraq and literally everything about Nouri al Maliki's time as PM To be fair, the independence referendum was a really bad idea.
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not supporting the independance referendum is like the one thing you cant hold against the united states when it comes to the kurds. everyone told them how bad of an idea it was and they did it anyway
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mila kunis posted:Also what 2002 essay? Was he writing as himself or in character as brecher? i think it was a followup to this with the headline something like "the faggots back down" again i'm new, so what's the difference between dolan and brecher? is there a bit or is it just a pen name edit here we go http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-called-it-indians-and-pakis-too-faggy-for-war/all/1/ i say swears online has issued a correction as of 09:45 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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someone else can probably explain it better, but gary brecher is a persona, not just a pen name. his war need columns used to be way more over the top and near satire
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:To be fair, the independence referendum was a really bad idea. I was honestly very impressed with the performance of the Iraqi army
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THS posted:someone else can probably explain it better, but gary brecher is a persona, not just a pen name. his war need columns used to be way more over the top and near satire gary brecher was a character conceived as a pen pusher in some california tech/military industrial company who spent his spare time reading every Jane's publication ever written. everything the character wrote is from that perspective. think grover without the death house.
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Dreylad posted:gary brecher was a character conceived as a pen pusher in some california tech/military industrial company who spent his spare time reading every Jane's publication ever written. everything the character wrote is from that perspective. think grover without the death house. okay that makes sense
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Lawman 0 posted:I was honestly very impressed with the performance of the Iraqi army The Iraqi army and its Shia militias had been battle hardened by fighting ISIS for years, while Barzani's Peshmerga - it turned out, avoided fighting ISIS whenever they could because all they cared about was defending the Kurdish zones.
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i say swears online posted:alright i'm new to the podcast and it's way less dry than i was expecting. are there some definitive episodes to look out for or should i just go down the list and click the interesting topics? they're all interesting, help i'd also echo the shows about "The Spike" and the russian disinformation one especially as they sorta complement each other.I think gives a little more context for their history of being rightwingers (I think they overemphasize this stuff, as someone mentioned being an american nationalist under nixon/carter/early reagan when you're in high school & college isn't the same thing as signing up to be a proud boy) and i've mentioned it in here way back, but if you're a fan of the funnier personal/anecdotal stuff there are two episodes called "Memories of St. Patrick's Day As A Young War Nerd" and the one that's titled something like "Human Terran System". edit: those latter two are early on, both within the first 30 episodes they did I believe Bastaman Vibration has issued a correction as of 16:28 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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dinoputz posted:i'd also echo the shows about "The Spike" and the russian disinformation one especially as they sorta complement each other.I think gives a little more context for their history of being rightwingers (I think they overemphasize this stuff, as someone mentioned being an american nationalist under nixon/carter/early reagan when you're in high school & college isn't the same thing as signing up to be a proud boy) Also, the articles Dolan wrote about the Human Terrain System and his relationship with their creator are incredible, and really worth reading. https://pando.com/2015/08/03/my-human-terrain-part-one-me-and-mitzy-carlough/
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super-pro click, I had forgotten about that one.
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How Darwinian posted:Also, the articles Dolan wrote about the Human Terrain System and his relationship with their creator are incredible, and really worth reading. yeah the article was great. goddamn I miss NSFWCorp. still saving the print editions in the hopes they'll be worth something to some collector someday... but honestly i got more enjoyment of the podcast version even after i had read those. the funny anecdotes get left out in the article reveal more of the personal poo poo. but yeah dolan's a great writer. has anyone read his 'Pleasant Hell'? i was wondering whetther to order that or not for a bus trip i got planned
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Pleasant Hell is seriously funny. just a nightmarish journey through John Dolan’s miserable life. the first chapter is about all the English students in New Zealand who bought shirts making fun of him specifically and all wore them to class. Also there was a new episode about the rise & fall of Sparta that might’ve slipped under your radar like it did mine. it’s an all time great.
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i read the article about sparta wrt the us military in question a while back and it's a solid lol. i liked the pic of a spartan helmet colored in confederate flag with the caption "this is saying way more than the creator thinks it is"
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pleasant hell is great, yeah. so is mark ames’ book “going postal”
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Pleasant Hell is seriously funny. just a nightmarish journey through John Dolan’s miserable life. the first chapter is about all the English students in New Zealand who bought shirts making fun of him specifically and all wore them to class. oh dont leave me hangin on this... gonna need the why/what/how on this story
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dolan’s stories of being a nighttime security guard are also some of the best poo poo ive ever read
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Also there was a new episode about the rise & fall of Sparta that might’ve slipped under your radar like it did mine. it’s an all time great. I feel like this guy is going to be on for every one of his books and I'm down for it
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dinoputz posted:oh dont leave me hangin on this... gonna need the why/what/how on this story The gist of it was that most of his students were Medical and they were compelled to take English as a core credit. So they hated being in a class for something they thought they'd already mastered, and they took it out on Dolan.
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dinoputz posted:yeah the article was great. goddamn I miss NSFWCorp. still saving the print editions in the hopes they'll be worth something to some collector someday... but honestly i got more enjoyment of the podcast version even after i had read those. the funny anecdotes get left out in the article reveal more of the personal poo poo. but yeah dolan's a great writer. has anyone read his 'Pleasant Hell'? i was wondering whetther to order that or not for a bus trip i got planned
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Gorn Myson posted:Paul Carr is one of the most insufferable wankers I've encountered in journalism, but I have to give him respect for giving the former Exile guys work. he really is truly awful
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