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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I’d never run anything other than discs if given the choice, anyone picking rim brakes just has some weird dislike of progress. Even if there was a hefty weight penalty (there isn’t) I’d still run them because they’re consistent in all conditions.

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Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

now that we have hydraulic disc brakes, abs/awd when?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Fender Anarchist posted:

now that we have hydraulic disc brakes, abs/awd when?

I believe it was tried in the 90s along with motorbike style dual disc fronts... Mountainbikes have had poo poo like piggyback shocks, shocks with computer controlled valving and all sorts. The ideas were pretty great, the tech behind them less so because 90s.

https://forums.mtbr.com/general-discussion/awd-bike-804947.html

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Fender Anarchist posted:

now that we have hydraulic disc brakes, abs/awd when?

Electric pedal assist AWD MTB's exist. ABS for MTB also exist...! Also you can get traction control, power smoothing, the latest bike computers will talk to the bike..... And as

quote:

Mountainbikes have had poo poo like piggyback shocks, shocks with computer controlled valving and all sorts

says, computer controlled suspension, electronic gears, even CVT. The modern MTB can actually be quite mind bogglingly technical. Let alone pedal assist MTB's arent in any way like the silly pedal assist hybrids you might see about, these are very much full on fully capable of doing any drop of any non assist high end MTB.

https://www.bikeexchange.com.au/blog/best-electric-mountain-bikes-for-2019

CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."
If anyone in Atlanta/North Georgia is looking for a Miata this one is pretty drat mint (for the price and with the exception of the paint).

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/d/1994-mazda-miata/6775089090.html

I would buy it myself honestly but I'm buying an e39 soon lol.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Applebees Appetizer posted:

I remember reading about how mountain bike riders hate them because they over heat too quickly? Idk, but I'm gonna start pricing poo poo out. Hydraulic discs sound great, would love to go that route but I'm guessing $$$.

You heard wrong. Mtb are exclusively discs except on the low low end or on really old poo poo. Get some decent Shimano hydraulics and you'll be set.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

As a non bike guy, is it reasonable possible to build a bike from scratch just picking components? Or do you have to buy a quality bike in the first place and upgrade everything?

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")
It's reasonable, and there are bike Co ops in most decent sized cities who will teach you to do that and general repair/maintenence if you put the time into a couple bikes they have laying around that need work.

You generally start with a frame, then build from there depending on your use case. You can get decent carbon clones from aliexpress for a third to a fifth of what you'd pay retail for them, but support is nonexistent and if it's a bad batch you are poo poo out of luck.

I pretty much constantly have a wishlist of "perfect reasonable commuter" running and updating as my whims change. Moderately roomy/upright carbon frame, bomb-proof high spoke count rims, sram groupset, disc brakes. Can't really go too wrong with that as long as you get higher profile tires to absorb just a little more road noise.

Another option is bikes direct, who seem to mostly have their poo poo together above lovely stem shift bikes and hybrids nowadays.

E: also lbt just came home with us, they gave this 4 pound dog 3 liters of fluid and she perked right up.

How the gently caress she keep all that down?

SeaGoatSupreme fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Dec 19, 2018

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

slidebite posted:

As a non bike guy, is it reasonable possible to build a bike from scratch just picking components? Or do you have to buy a quality bike in the first place and upgrade everything?

Very resonable. Both my bikes were basically pick a frame and slot in what components I wanted. You can do that on just about all levels of bike and mix/match whatever will fit.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

I went the route of mostly-but-not-completely-dickered thrift store hardtail MTB (with, rather critically, a not-totally-poo poo frame) and just reconfigure as I break stuff and while I'm into it for about what an actual good used bike is worth after my first season it's now exactly the bike I want minus a handful of minor things.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

slidebite posted:

As a non bike guy, is it reasonable possible to build a bike from scratch just picking components? Or do you have to buy a quality bike in the first place and upgrade everything?

It costs quite a bit more than just buying a bike with the parts you want.
Unless you need/want something really weird and custom, it isn't really worth it.
Bike OEMs get parts way cheaper than you can buy them, even from the european online stores (the european stores are the cheapest because due to EU laws, shimano can exercise way less control).

Disc brakes in like 2001 were loving rear end, but they're way better now. Other than for a flat lander, fair weather skinny tire road bike, they are buy far the best choice. Rim brakes look better on a classic looking road bike though.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


nm posted:

Disc brakes in like 2001 were loving rear end, but they're way better now. Other than for a flat lander, fair weather skinny tire road bike, they are buy far the best choice. Rim brakes look better on a classic looking road bike though.

The UK Company Hope would like a word with you sir, I was running Hope M4 4 pot calipers back then and they were incredibly good in terms of raw power, modulation and maintenance-free running. Hope were ahead of the game though definitely.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Olympic Mathlete posted:

The UK Company Hope would like a word with you sir, I was running Hope M4 4 pot calipers back then and they were incredibly good in terms of raw power, modulation and maintenance-free running. Hope were ahead of the game though definitely.

And they weighed 25 lbs. (Ok 1 kg per bike and I'm not sure that included the rotor)
The difference between some cheap rear end avid cable discs and high end discs in 2001 is so amazing to me. The kids don't even know.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


nm posted:

And they weighed 25 lbs. (Ok 1 kg per bike and I'm not sure that included the rotor)
The difference between some cheap rear end avid cable discs and high end discs in 2001 is so amazing to me. The kids don't even know.

And the weight penalty was well worth it to have brakes that y'know, worked in the wet, gritty poo poo we used to ride. I had one friend burn through a set of v-brake pads pretty much every weekend we rode in winter which is y'know, not ideal. :v:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I just scored a 'Smart' Airconditioner controller as everything in my house is old and doesn't have any form of remote access:



Actually very surprised it paired with my lovely old Teco with just a press of the original remote button. All functions supported.

Will be testing out the Geofencing poo poo tomorrow when I leave the house and see the logs whether or not it actually turned off when I left home and turned on on my designated GPS radius. I am eternally forgetting to turn the bedroom AC off so worth a try.

In the meantime, I'm port scanning it and tempted to tear it apart and see if it's just an ESP32 with fancy webapps.

EDIT: Seems to be part of Philips Hue products as far as the OS probe.

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Dec 19, 2018

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




nm posted:

It costs quite a bit more than just buying a bike with the parts you want.

This. Not worth it unless you really like to tinker and spend money. Just pay more up front for a better bike and you'll be better off.

That said, I bought a new bike not knowing wtf I wanted, and changed a bunch of poo poo anyway. :v: That's just being new to things though I guess and learning through it. Some things you may have to swap anyway to get the fit right for you (saddle, stem, bars) anyway.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy

Humphreys posted:

I just scored a 'Smart' Airconditioner controller as everything in my house is old and doesn't have any form of remote access:



Actually very surprised it paired with my lovely old Teco with just a press of the original remote button. All functions supported.

Will be testing out the Geofencing poo poo tomorrow when I leave the house and see the logs whether or not it actually turned off when I left home and turned on on my designated GPS radius. I am eternally forgetting to turn the bedroom AC off so worth a try.

In the meantime, I'm port scanning it and tempted to tear it apart and see if it's just an ESP32 with fancy webapps.

EDIT: Seems to be part of Philips Hue products as far as the OS probe.

Yo, I got one of these in March because we have lovely in-wall hotel AC units and it's great.

Unfortunately the geofencing doesn't work too well, the app suspends in the background too quickly, even with battery saver turned off specifically for it. So, instead I use an IFTTT task to have it turn on and off based on whether or not I'm connected to my home wifi.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER
Apropos of nothing, I was looking through recalls and NHTSA complaints on the lady's car and came across this:

some guy who knows about cars I tell you hwhat posted:

SUDDEN, HARD AND DANGEROUS DOWNSHIFT TO I THINK FIRST. YOU CAN BE GOING SLOW AND IT COULD HAPPEN BUT IT JUST HAPPENED TO ME AT 40 OR 50 MILES AN HOUR. YOU PUSH THE GAS A LITTLE AND NO ACCELERATION AND I MEAN NOTHING AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN . YOU PUSH SOME MORE AND STILL NOTHING HAPPENS. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SLAMS INTO I THINK FIRST. I ALMOST HIT THE STEERING WHEEL AND A CAR BEHIND ME HAD TO SWERVE. I KNOW A BIT ABOUT CARS AND I CAN TELL YOU I'M SHOCKED IT'S ENGINEERED THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN. I SEE A FEW PEOPLE ONLINE HAVE HAD A SIMILAR ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL DO ANYTHING, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.

Gave me a little giggle.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
Dial shifter? I've heard of people money-shifting those without realizing it.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

Liquid Communism posted:

Dial shifter? I've heard of people money-shifting those without realizing it.

The autos have the traditional single-track PRND automatic shift lever. No chance of shifting to first.

The Prong Song fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Dec 19, 2018

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Took my new bike out for a ride to my buddy's bike shop, he said I stole it for 400 so I'm pretty happy about that.

Man this things rides so smooth, I don't know if it's going from rigid-rear end alloy to CroMo but it just feels so much better. After talking with my buddy some I might just stay with the rear brake for awhile, if I want a front disc I'll have to get a new hub as well so that won't be happening anytime soon. Also I'm really happy with the gearing, it's perfect. Might not even want to get an internally geared hub for awhile. My friend also said the freewheel is rebuildable which I never heard of before lol. All the components on the bike are top notch :)

[e] besides the pedals they are horrible, gonna get a good pair of platforms

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Dec 19, 2018

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Applebees Appetizer posted:

All the components on the bike are top notch :)

It doesn't even have components, though. :v:
-cassette
-shifter(s)
-derailer(s)
-brakes (lol)

Glad you're enjoying it.

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")

Suburban Dad posted:

It doesn't even have components, though. :v:
-cassette
-shifter(s)
-derailer(s)
-brakes (lol)

Glad you're enjoying it.

Surly bikes aren't cheap, I'm sure just the frame is more than 400 new.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Suburban Dad posted:

It doesn't even have components, though. :v:
-cassette
-shifter(s)
-derailer(s)
-brakes (lol)

Glad you're enjoying it.

-headset
-bottom bracket
-rear disc
-crank arms/gears
-wheels, inc. hub/spokes/rims
-tires
-saddle
-seatpost
-handlebars
-grips
-etc.

:rolleyes:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

Surly bikes aren't cheap, I'm sure just the frame is more than 400 new.
I can hear people involuntarily moving themselves into the Wonka meme pose at their desks.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


I have a 2000s K-Mart MTB. It makes me stronk, because it weighs 500 pounds. Or it would if I rode it.

edit: or tried to move it.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


The Prong Song posted:

The autos have the traditional single-track PRND automatic shift lever. No chance of shifting to first.

Yep - people are stupid, it's always someone else's fault

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Darchangel posted:

I have a 2000s K-Mart MTB. It makes me stronk, because it weighs 500 pounds. Or it would if I rode it.

edit: or tried to move it.

I owned a HUFFY STONE MOUNTAIN when I was 13. Best biker ever.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself





Ah, you again. He likes it and is happy, and that is great. That doesn't mean it's still not an unusual bike.

Sorry leica if you thought I was being a mean person on the internet. These are the cheap but good flats I have on my MTB. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ILX7OGA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The pins will gently caress you up though if you take one to the shin, but they're solid and cheap, and grip like glue to my five tens.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Queen Combat posted:

2018 has been weird. For myself: excellent. For the world at large: holy poo poo bad

same

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
CEL on my Escape is on. OBD scanner and the car's built in diagnostic test mode both report that the computer hasn't thrown any trouble codes. It drives perfectly fine. What's the deal, Ford!? Is this the point where I regret buying a new Ford?

Not looking for any help here, just frustrated with new cars and their fancy computers.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
Don't new cars throw a light for things like the gas cap not being fully closed / screwed on etc?

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

MrOnBicycle posted:

Don't new cars throw a light for things like the gas cap not being fully closed / screwed on etc?

If by "new" you mean "made in this century" then yes. Often there is a separate "check fuel cap" idiot light that may or may not illuminate along with the CEL.

It should also set code P0455.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
All the new Fords I've seen don't even have a gas cap, it's just like a flap that you push out of the way with the pump nozzle. I read online that it will throw codes for trivial things like coolant level too low, so at least I have a few obvious things to check before I say gently caress it and take it into a shop.

drat curious what made it angry though, the car sits in a garage all day and only has 10k miles after 2 years.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Wrench is on Steam Early Access, if you want to work on a race car virtually.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/936720/Wrench/

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Protocol7 posted:

drat curious what made it angry though, the car sits in a garage all day and only has 10k miles after 2 years.

Still under warranty? Let the dealer handle it.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I remember reading about how mountain bike riders hate them because they over heat too quickly? Idk, but I'm gonna start pricing poo poo out. Hydraulic discs sound great, would love to go that route but I'm guessing $$$.

One of my friends was huge into mountain bike riding and racing, and his Cannondales had hydraulic disc brakes on it and that was about 8-10 years ago.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

Geoj posted:

Still under warranty? Let the dealer handle it.

Sure is, and that is the plan. I don't have the fancy "Every part under the sun is covered" warranty that they tried to upsell me because they conveniently left out the $100 sign up charge and recurring monthly charge. (They did drop my rate on the car because I said I'd take it at first, though.)

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")

Darchangel posted:

Wrench is on Steam Early Access, if you want to work on a race car virtually.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/936720/Wrench/

Is losing the 10mm socket an achievement

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ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


Holy gently caress why does everything HVAC related on cars have to be so impossibly difficult?

It look like 3 hours just to slip some zip ties on, but I have defrost now at least.

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